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41 million in America and 121 million worldwide is not too shabby. But maybe audiences were a bit tired of Rocky movies by then?
Mel has Scottish ancestry. That's what attracted him to the part.
Are you in North America? The rat drowning scene has always been banned in the UK. The censors just have never been convinced that the rat wasn't suffering when it was submerged and thus it's never been featured in any theatrical or home release.
<blockquote>That liquid they used is a coolant called Fluorinert. I worked at a company once that used that to test the waterproofing of optical transceivers by submerging them in it.</blockquote>
That's interesting. I'm sure many viewers watching the Abyss thought that it was real breathing liquid being used.
<blockquote>Whatever minor gains they might achieve with minorities are more than offset by the loss of White support. </blockquote>
They'll always have that support from white audiences. Who do you think goes to watch all those shitty jordan peele movies? The Acolyte failed because they loaded the cast with all diversity when in reality you still need token whites in there as that's the main audience.
Forced diversity was originally done to appease minorities who complained bitterly when someone who looked like them wasn't onscreen. Nowadays it's simply about being provocative. They know that they put tokens into films where they don't belong, it's the whole purpose.
You guys in this thread must have ridiculously high standards.
Are you telling me if this was standing before you naked that you wouldn't flinch much less lose your shit completely: https://c7.alamy.com/comp/2ANY6E5/january-18-2020-santa-barbara-california-usa-florence-pugh-attends-the-35th-annual-santa-barbara-international-film-festival-in-santa-barbara-california-credit-image-charlie-steffenszuma-wire-2ANY6E5.jpg
<blockquote>Kimmel doesn't even entertain the opposition's perspective as though everyone and everything on his side is sacrosanct and above criticism. This is anti-comedy.</blockquote>
Yes, exactly. Great point.
People under 24 have been raised on the worst movie era in history. They know nothing but shit CGI, shit actors and shit directors. Films made for people with no attention spans or concept of character depth or storyline.
Their Star Wars is Kathleen Kennedy. Their Martin Scorsese is Joss Whedon. Their Al Pacino is elephant man Adam Driver. Their Schwarzenegger is peanut head Dwayne Johnson. Their Marilyn Monroe is Elliott Page.
They're philistines who wouldn't know a good film like Aliens if it punched them in the face
At least stallone contributed something valuable to pop culture. What has kimmel done? A poor man's Leno/Letterman.
It's about $$$ or maybe in this context £££.
If they have an all white cast, which you'd expect from something set in early 1940s London during the Blitz, then they're afraid of losing a section of the audience when the inevitable backlash starts on social media over why something doesn't have any diversity in it, and they're also looking to appeal to non-white audiences and get more viewers from them and thus more money.
<blockquote>why would romans be whitest of the white?</blockquote>
That's what they look in these recreations of their statues (also using historical descriptions of their appearance):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAuYw1jpL_U
https://youtu.be/gfqy7ipjDWI?feature=shared&t=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBu2XpZALE0
<blockquote> italians arent anglo saxons.</blockquote>
The Romans existed long before certain regions of southern Europe were repeatedly ravaged by arab muslim invaders (today, many northern Italians look like Anglo-Saxons while the southern ones and Sicilians don't precisely for this reason).
It's the same reason why you get retards trying to claim Jesus isn't white because he lived in what is now Israel, with said retards thinking he's middle eastern in appearance like Osama Bin Laden. Well, 2000 years ago the people in that region looked a lot different to today. Things change over that period of time, and you did get whites in that region who looked exactly like the way Jesus is depicted in western culture.
And since this is the festive season, you'll soon get even bigger retards trying to claim Santa Claus isn't white because St. Nicholas was Greek.
haha!
That's a good point.
Is that true about vader's ship spinning off into space and not coming back? There was a guy on the old imdb boards who was adamant he saw the original ending in 77 where vader dies, and there were a few who swear they saw the same thing, but it could be one of those things they talk about where your memory plays tricks on you.
I think it's more than likely that Vader was always supposed to be a major character from the beginning, just not Leia's father, and neither was the entire saga meant to revolve around him like Lucas said during the making of the prequels where he repeatedly stated that star wars was always "the story of darth vader/anakin skywalker". I don't buy that having seen this movie.
<blockquote>He's a white Hispanic at best</blockquote>
If you have to prefix anything with 'white' in regards to this guy then you are admitting, subconsciously at least, that he's not some non-white ethnic minority.
South America was colonized by South Europeans. That's what this guy's lineage obviously is. Look at him ffs: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Desi_Arnaz_1950.JPG
<blockquote> the kids could very well be "mixed" given their spanish background. What the heck makes you think they're not?</blockquote>
I just told you. Their society didn't view a spaniard & swede as an interracial pairing, thus why would the kids of two Europeans be 'mixed?
So many of you americans are consumed by race 24/7. It defines your existence. Look at how offended you are by me pointing out that this guy who looks white... is white. It's not normal to have this mindset.
I have no more desire to get into this discussion. Your ilk are all over every message board and social media page and, from experience, you get tiresome very, very quickly.
<blockquote>It looks like Schwarzenegger's first scene judging by how less robot-like he's acting compared to the other scenes</blockquote>
I think that's probably the most likely explanation.
They made the best back then.
There are some fans who claimed that they added the footage of vader steadying his ship and flying off at the end when they realized the film was a mega hit and wanted to keep him for merchandising reasons. His original fate was to keep spinning out of control indefinitely into the abyss of space after he collided with the Tie fighter - this is what the very first screenings showed according to some fans.
Regardless if that's true, Vader doesn't come off as important in the 77 movie, not the centre of everything like they said he was. Vader and Leia confront each other in the first scene, and yet Vader feels nothing, he only feels something in the presence of Obi Wan on the Death Star, but not his own force sensitive daughter standing right before him?
Vader was nothing more than Tarkin's lackey.
Yep. Vader didn't even have a theme in Star Wars like he did in the other movies.
He looks like a south european, and they are considered to be white here in Europe. I know in America you live your lives consumed by color, but not having blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't make you a different race.
I'll give you an example: Post WWII there was a number of immigrants from Spain and Italy who settled in countries such as Sweden, Switzerland & Scotland (i.e. the whitest of white places). Many of them would've looked like Arnaz, and when they married local girls, it was not controversial or seen as an interracial marriage, and their kids were not 'mixed'. Why? Because they weren't seen as non-white.
This is the exact same scenario here with this show. It's not controversial because the guy looks like an extra from the godfather. He is not black or brown, thus no one cares.
I don't know how he did it, but he made Pearl Harbor go by really fast despite the fact it lasts 3 hours. It's a fun film as a result. Kudos to the adhd afflicted hack.