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I've noticed and appreciate that, however I also wanted to understand why the entire Craig Era is getting so much hate on these boards. My last thread was strictly on NTTD and now I just want to make a point on why this movie and the entire Craig series is getting so much unnecessary backlash when Craig has 2 great Bond films. It just bothers me how these boards also create the same threads on and on regarding how this movie is gonna be a failure and how the entire Craig Era sucks. I just don't understand and that's why I created another thread.
Fair enough and respectable. I was underwhelmed by Spectre as well. I didn't hate it, I just thought it was decent but disappointing. However that doesn't necessarily affect my anticipation for No Time to Die. Yes I understand people may be worried that it's still continuing certain story elements from Spectre such as birnging back Lea Seydoux and Waltz, but that shouldnt automatically result in a bad movie. Yes the chemistry between Madeleine and Bond in Spectre was weak but it can be resolved in NTTD and give them more development. The whole Blofeld being Bonds brother was another weak point in Spectre but I doubt that relationship will be explored deeper in NTTD
Therefore other than that, I honestly don't see what else is there to hate on this film. The movie could be great or terrible. We will just have to wait and see, however my expectations are very high for it and I do have faith that this film will be a success.
That's cool. Totally respect that and yeah same, loved the twist and I thought that was the best part of the film.
Won’t be surprised if this site shuts down as well.
I get where your coming from about the whole Spectre follow up. Sure it wasn’t the greatest but I just don’t see how they can just abandon the storyline since that film had a massive impact on the Craig era itself since it was revealed Spectre was behind everything in the other films which I believe wasn’t planned out from the beginning when Craig first started. It was just improvisation. So basically it would be odd if they abandoned that storyline since they want this film to be a culmination of all of the films so they can give Craig an emotional character arc and send off. If they were to just make a stand-alone film, it wouldn’t feel like a concluding storyline for Craig which they wanted to go for.
Maybe there were reshoots when Craig injured himself but it wasn’t for anything that they thought that wasn’t working out in the film. They probably had to change up how they were originally gonna film some scenes with Craig due to his injury. They weren’t going to change up some key plot points.
CF wouldn’t lie about the film being finished and not being tweaked more. If they were to do reshoots, it would look really bad on them that they would lie about that and use COVID as a cover up because if they were to do reshoots, we would eventually know. Also that rumor started spreading around a month before it was originally supposed to be released and right after the delay announcement. If they were to do reshoots, they probably couldn’t afford it because they need to spend more money obviously and they already used up a ton of money from all that marketing such as the teaser trailer, tv spots, posters, and including that super bowl spot which costs a lot. Then once this film will eventually be released they will have to even spend more money on marketing.
I just don’t get any of these haters on these boards nowadays. I’m just trying to make a valid statement that people are over hating this film which hasn’t even been released yet and that we don’t even know how so called “woke” this film will be. I’m just saying I have high hopes for it and i don’t think it’ll fall heavily into this woke category. I didn’t want to use this word but all these haters are just sexist I guess.
Exactly and I honestly feel that it will fit it into to the story very well but at the same time, not being an overly woke fest. Most of the woke elements will most likely feature in the beginning of the film but if it’s gonna be throughout then there will be a lot of hate
Billie Eilish has nothing to do with this. All she does is perform the title song.
We don’t know if this film will deal with a political message like this or not. Lashana Lynches character just happens to be the new female 007 in which she took over that role since Bond is retired. That’s it. We won’t know till we actually see the movie if Bonds character will be disrespected like that or not. Of course Lynch will stand out a little more than Bond in the beginning of the film, but that’s only to give her character a little more charisma. If she stands out more than Bond throughout the whole film, than that would be an issue like I said.
The Star Wars films didn’t get backlashed for being woke. Rey was an essential part of the Force Awakens and look how much praise force awakens got. Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker received backlash because they weren’t that great in general. There’s no reason for the Star Wars films to be considered woke at all because the producers wanted Rey to be the essential main character. Just because the main character of a Star Wars film is female doesn’t mean it’s woke.
How does comparing Religious elements to a film franchise make any sense. None of what you said has nothing to do with what I’m trying to discuss. What does Q have anything to do with being replaced by a so called Christian as well as M? What kind of logic is this?
All I’m trying to discuss is that whole feminist side of NTTD doesn’t seem like a big deal as many anticipate. The whole woke argument here is just to see if Lynches character Nomi really elevates this film to be woke or not and not make Bond look like a fool. This not some Biblical type nonsense about Christians, Atheists or whatever which has no comparison to woke elements.
Yeah these message boards are just filled with haters that like to critique every bit of a certain film for such an unnecessary reason.
I get people may be concerned about the production but I’m just trying to make people understand that the production behind this film isn’t as bad as people may think. Production was basically put on hold a few times due to Daniel Craig’s injury and an on-set explosion while filming. This doesn’t necessarily change or have an effect on the film itself. Also the switch of directors thing isn’t that much of a big deal either. Eon just didn’t like the route Boyle was going to take with this film so they got CF which btw they wanted him as a Bond director for a while. Therefore, they started from scratch and worked something else out with CF. This was the reason for the delay from November 2019 to April 2020. This shows how dedicated EON is to making this film great instead of rushing this film to come out and not being pleased by it.
Haters just like to hate on these boards. That’s all that it is. And yes I know many people are looking forward to this as well. Especially taking this was originally tracking for a big opening weekend at the time. I just can’t wait for the film and my expectations are very high
Yeah I've noticed that these message boards particularly express the most hatred towards Craig. That's why I started this thread because the overall audience consensus loves Craig as Bond as well as Casino Royale and Skyfall but here on the message boards, many users don't feel the same. I am a huge fan of his Bond. I loved Casino Royale and Skyfall. Quantum and Spectre werent that great but I don't hate them.
As for No Time to Die, I have high expectations for it and I can't wait to see it. I just don't get why people are anticipating this to be a failure. Yes, the production wasn't smooth but it wasn't like a disastrous production where there had to be reshoots because certain aspects didn't work or anything like that. Again it's not like a Rise of Skywalker scenario or like X men dark Phoenix where reshoots had to happen because certain things didn't work out. If that was the case for NTTD than I would be concerned, but it really isn't like that. I could see why people would be bothered by the whole "woke" elements but I think that is being overreacted on too much. If Lynch's character stands out more than Bond in the film then that's an issue, but from what I've seen in the trailers and marketing, I don't think that'll be the case. I just think this film is getting too much hate.
That's fine. I know many might not like the route Mendes took with Skyfall and Spectre. Yes the Blofeld being Bonds brother thing wasn't the best choice but I absolutely had no problem with what he did with Skyfall. Spectre wasn't the best but that doesn't prevent me from being excited for No Time to Die. The film can either be great or bad. We will just have to wait and see.
Same both are fantastic films. I like Casino Royale a little more mainly because I find it more rewatchable but Skyfall is still another masterpiece of a film. I just don't understand why No Time to Die is getting so much hate.
Honestly I doubt that's the case on why Skyfall got so much praise. Yes it was a huge improvement over Quantum but that's not the reason why it got the praise it got. It was a great movie on its own. You might not think so and that's fine. Film is subjective and we all have our options. I personally love Skyfall and agree with the main consensus surrounding it's praise. Spectre on the other hand, yes that was a disappointment. I didn't hate Spectre, I thought it was just average for the most part but people didn't necessarily like Spectre that much because it wasn't that great on its own, and yes a disappointing follow up to Skyfall.
I'm just saying that there is really no need for people to hate on No Time to Die. I understand everything about the production troubles, but I don't even think the production was that bad tbh if you really think about it. I think people are going about the whole woke elements and I could kinda see why people might not be to thrilled about this one because it's the next installment after Spectre which left a bad taste for fans but really I don't see why this film is getting so much hate.
Daniel Craig's Bond is beloved by many. Casino Royale and Skyfall are considered to be some of the best Bond films and they are beloved by fans and critics. Sure Spectre wasn't that great but that doesn't mean the next installment will automatically be a failure. Skyfall came out after Quantum and look how much of an improvement Skyfall was.
Yeah I'm very confident that there will be a good balance between the whole feminism aspect of the film and Bond being the best he's ever been but more so focused on Bond. That's how I think it's gonna play out. Like I expect Lynch to somewhat make Bond look like a step down compared to her in some parts in terms of combat skills given that she's much younger than him and that Bond is older and retired so I wouldn't be surprised but I think he'll end being justified and being the best he's ever been and being even more badass then he was in his previous films as this film progresses throughout its runtime.
It definitely makes sense if Lynch's character Nomi does helm the 007 title at the start of the film cause obviously he's retired but I definitely want to see him regain that title back. It wouldnt make much sense if he isn't 007 at all in the film especially since the marketing for the film such as the trailers and posters all have the iconic 007 logo attached to them and then he never ends up regaining that title in the film.
Anyways my expectations are very high for this film and I have many positive viewpoints regarding my anticipation for this film. Like I said it can be great or bad but I honestly think this film will live up. I could be wrong but that is what I think.
Respectable. I know this is getting a lot of backlash for a lot of these so called woke elements but I honestly don't think it's gonna be that much of a big deal in the film
I do think in the beginning of the film, Lynches character does helm the 007 codename but I don't see that as an insult to the character of Bond. Yes she's probably gonna act like a big shot towards him in the beginning of the film and have that attitude but I think that's just to give her character more levity. If it's gonna be like that throughout the rest of the film then that could be an issue and make Bond look like a joke but I doubt that will be the case.
I honestly just feel like people are overreacting to this whole "woke" element. I think there is definitely gonna be some elements like that lingering in the film but I doubt it will be overdone. That's just how I see it.
Also the production isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Like there were no reshoots or anything. It's not like a Rise of Skywalker scenario. Production was just put on hold a couple of times due to a set being destroyed, Craig injuring himself, and change of directors but thats due to creative differences and it shows how committed EON is to making Craig go out on a high note.
That's how I feel about this film and I'm absolutely excited for it and I think the film is in good hands!
Completely agree. What a waste of a character.
I understand where your coming from and I get that this film is old, however I expected many people to consider this a classic cause of how much this impacted Eminem. And I definitely agree that rap isn't as big as it was at that time so that actually makes quite a bit of sense. I myself am a huge Eminem fan and I just feel like this film should've get more buzz and I also agree his new stuff isn't nearly as good as his old music.