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Thank you, and this is coming from a woman. I can't speak for men, but Corie was ridiculous. That gives me hope that men want more than just looks in a wife. Intelligence, and well, sanity, should also be things a man ought to be looking for too. I couldn't even be friends with a woman like Corie. No wonder she didn't have any friends. She's like an early Carrie Bradshaw. No thanks.
I felt that Corie was bipolar or borderline personality disorder. I don't find mental illness all that funny. The comedy doesn't work much anymore because we are more aware of these disorders and have compassion and not just find it hilarious (?).
Also, these days a couple probably would get to know each other better, live together to see if they are compatible before getting married. (though it's hard to imagine Redford didn't know how unbalanced she was when they were dating...). I know that way of thinking is considered immoral and fast and loose, but living together before marriage should be a requirement before marriage. "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" would be something my mother used to say. In Redford's case it should be "Why buy the cow when it should be flavored with Lithium beforehand to be tolerable?"
I agree 100%, OP. In fact, your post could have been written verbatim by me. I think this kind of comedy has come and gone and is past its spoil date. I've liked other Neil Simon pictures, but this just fell flat for me. I think maybe an early Goldie Hawn could have done this better because we EXPECT her to be braindead and stupid. But Jane Fonda??? Too grating on my nerves. I also would have given 6 out of ten stars, just because Jane and Redford were at their physical primes and I knew it was just the comedy that was bad, and not them.
Right? Or demand it be fixed before moving in. Or just get a damn space heater for their 'bedroom' so they wouldn't be freezing when they slept? Or any other reasonable remedies to this issue. But nope, we're supposed to laugh like hyenas as if it's the funniest thing in the world. This movie grated on my nerves. It must be a generational thing. I don't find easily fixable problems not being fixed (due to stupidity or just written to be funny) to be all that funny.
I suppose it's the kind of film you have to be in the mood for. It is old time humor, much like 'I Love Lucy', so if you laugh out loud every single time Lucy makes a funny face or says or does something stupid, then you might find it hilarious. I just had to turn the channel because it wasn't working for me. My 90 y/o father was laughing every five seconds to the point I had to tell him to stop because I wasn't getting the dialogue.
This probably worked better on stage. It is written by Neil Simon. But Jane Fonda played dumb way too much for my comfort, and I don't find stupidity funny, especially when it's supposed to be the reason why we should all be laughing.
Some nice NY scenes, and Jane and Redford were at their prettiest. But the same old same old jokes got so repetitive it became boring. (How many times are we supposed to laugh at anyone being winded walking up to the apartment, or the neighbor's cans inexplicably in the hallway, or the obnoxious French neighbor who has to enter their apartment and walk through their bedroom to crawl out their window to get to his apartment above because the landlord locked him out due to failure to pay rent, etc etc etc???). It just got way too repetitive that it wasn't even funny anymore.
If you laugh uncontrollably every five seconds watching a Three Stooges movie, then you'll probably like this. I'd give it 6/10 just for pretty boy Redford. But I'd rather see the play so maybe the humor would work better (though I doubt it).
Well, I'd complain if my neighbor was leaving cans in the hallway like that. Normal people would put them in the their trashcan and when the bag is full take the bag downstairs to the dumpster or wherever. Nothing to do with recycling.
He reminded me of the sidekick friend in Fright Night.
"Butt-worthy"? Yes, I would assume so. lol
They shaved his chest hair so that it might shave 13 years off him for his character who was around 24. Didn't work out that way, IMO, he looked like a plucked chicken or peacock.
You bet. I just watched It Happened One Night and now I understand why my grandmother would nearly faint whenever a movie of his came on.
In more ways than one, if Grace Kelly had something to say about it.
He was delicious in Golden Boy and that was in 1939 when he was only 21.
Do you really like a man with a shaved bush? My ex husband did that once (he thought it might make him look bigger down there) and all I saw was a big FUPA and the same old size whatevers.
Monroe would have always been the bad girl, or town tramp. Even dying her hair dark wouldn't have saved the film. She was too typecasted by then.
Huh, I thought the sequel was "Coal Miner's Daughter". The child she conceived at the picnic with Hal turned out to be Loretta Lynn. Madge only had a small part as the pitiful, always pregnant, downtrodden mother of her brood, and old before her time.
He told her the name of the hotel in Tulsa. Likely he would have shown up there, dirty and drunk, and would have been thrown out. By the time Madge found out where he was, a few days later, she would have quietly entered his room hoping to surprise him, but instead she'd walk in on him in the act having sex with some cheap whore and he'd be saying to the new piece "I love you so much. I've never loved any one like this...blah blah" like he said to Madge. She'd be upset and run back to Kansas and in a couple of weeks realize she got impregnated by him at the picnic. Her reputation destroyed, she'd never find a decent man back in Kansas, and settle for unwed motherhood and turning tricks with the paper boy and his buddies. And still wearing her crown, unless the town takes it back from her. That's the True Hollywood Story.
I don't know the play, but I first read it as Howard was a middle-aged gay man and Rosemary was his available beard on the weekend. That way he could still live in that shit town in Kansas and not be killed or run out of town. He really never kissed her or looked romantically interested at all. He was more interested in drinking whiskey to dull the pain. And he looks over 50, so why is he so disgusted by the thought of marriage? I thought, probably gay, and just barely getting through his miserable life with the help of booze.
On second thought, he very well may have had sex with Rosemary, but he sure didn't act like he did when he dropped her off. He acted like he probably acted every other time he dropped her off on their dates. No kiss, just see you next week. I think she wanted to marry because she realized she already was an old maid and this might be her last shot at a husband.
Sounds about right.
I just watched this last night with my 90 y/o father, and William Holden was his favorite actor. He remembered it being a great love story, but he's always lived with his head in the clouds (wouldn't that be nice?). I couldn't stop commenting how this is NOT a love story. My father didn't remember how the movie ended, but I predicted Hal would escape from the cops onto a train, and Madge would jump on with him and ruin her life.
Imagine if Madge didn't hop that bus immediately and waited a week to leave for Tulsa. She'd surprise him in his room at the hotel and find him in bed with another woman. Of course she'd have already gotten impregnated after the picnic, so she'd have to go back to Neewollah, with a trashed reputation (would probably be forced to resign her title of Queen of Neewollah), Alan and his family would never have anything to do with her, and she'd end up an unwed mother working at the five and dime for life. And turn tricks with the paper boy and his pals. That's probably how it should have ended. Some great love story.
My father asked me how I became so cynical. Hmmm.
There was a storm that took down several phone lines in the area. The phone repair guy was going around fixing them.