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It's fun to watch them work in the behind the scenes videos. They really seem like one brain in two bodies. I'm not sure they split anything up. I think it was pure collab.
Oh, my mistake then. Now I'm even more confused about what happened to her dad.
I guess if he birthed an alien, that it's possible the colonists were able to kill it before it wiped everyone out
Possible or not.
Based on the first movie, and the colony scenes from the extended cut of the second movie- it seems like it's just a bunch of eggs.
I guess the queen could be hiding out near the derelict this whole time.
If I had to guess, I'd say that the alien lifecycle includes some kind of "is there a queen?" box in a flowchart, and if not, then somehow one of the next eggs, or facehuggers orders up a new queen.
Don't bees or ants do something like that?
Sure did! I was pretty pumped for this, having read the novelization before it came out. I was 9- and just the right age for all of the 4-color future stuff, and action and humor. It was probably instantly my favorite movie at the time.
I recall my parents, especially my mom, strongly disliking the alternative 1985 sequences, which may have all been a reaction to Lorraine's plastic chest.
Over the next six months, I read the novelization for Part 3 and was really excited to see that one. However, it didn't quite click with me the way Part 2 did.
Over the next few years, I had a new favorite movie every year (Batman 1989 was a thing), and people seemed generally down on BTTF2 and I came to think less of it. Probably also related to how I felt let down by BTTF3.
But in adulthood, I have come back to really appreciate BTTF2. I think the first movie is possibly perfect, and while the second is definitely flawed, I think I actually prefer it.
It replaced the poignancy of "meeting your parents as teenagers" with MJF in a miniskirt and a wig. It replaced a simple plot complicated by 1 accidental time travel with perhaps the most original and bonkers tale of alternate realities and other selves in 1955. In addition to a nostalgic look back to the 50s, it includes an acerbic prediction/parody of the then near future. If the moral of the first one was "your parents were like you when they were young" and "be the best version of yourself your can be- it makes a difference!" then the moral of the second seems to be "don't mess with the space/time continuum" and "don't let your past self see you if you return to a previously visited timeline", which are arguably less relatable.
But I love it!
Oh, and that cliffhanger ending! What a finish! I've come around on 3 somewhat as well, though it remains my least favorite of the 3.
(To answer your question, I don't recall how full the cinema was exactly... But I think "normal". I probably saw it early, when it works have been pretty full, and then again later when audiences had waned a little)
One could argue that the further back in time one tries to fix a problem, the more likely "externalities" or unintended/undesired results will ripple or "butterfly" out from the intended change.
From that perspective, a quick jaunt into the future to change one small interaction between Marty Jr and Griff is the least threatening to the space/time continuum.
Trying to change it 30 years earlier is just too risky!
However, then one must realize 30 years earlier is exactly what happened in Movie 1, but none of that was exactly intentional, so perhaps that strengthens this argument.
But then one must also consider Movie 3. If 30 years is risky, what of 100 years?
Back to Movie 2- if 30 years can cause so many rippled externalities, then bringing 2 people forward 30 years- AND THEN RETURNING THEM TO THE PRESENT is probably a bad idea.
But the rest of Movie 2 and all of Movie 3 only prove that to be the case! So maybe one was right to argue all along.
Yeah, I get that. But, there's 150ish colonists and maybe almost that many aliens... So what percentage of the colonists went out to the derelict after Newt's dad came back with the face hugger?
The movie is at least somewhat smart here- they say that Newt's dad doesn't get infected, but dies when they remove the face hugger. Or else a single alien would have killed all the colonists before they ever got any more eggs/huggers/queen.
I'm just missing the step from "wow, it killed that guy, let's go get more" to "whoops, all 100 of these eggs we brought back hugged most of our faces" to "everyone left tried to shoot the aliens and failed... And there's a queen now".
I'm sure that's the right answer... Mostly just curious if anyone had any other ideas.
I'll confess- I'll never read the book. Do you mind spoiling it for me?
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I hesitate to think he could do it again, but he directed my 2 favorite Bond movies. And a great Zorro movie!
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And Green Lantern.
Maybe it is, but I think all 3 are incredible.
What happened with Green Lantern?
It's one higher, for sure.
imdb suggests sometime this summer?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0326716/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_rdat#releases
Blade Runner is my go-to example for a movie that is not only better, but in a while different class
I think it's actually true of most of PKD's books. Another, more... sober writer is able to take his best ideas and layer coherency on top of them and improve them.
I think you're right about Fight Club too.
Most Bond films end with Bond succeeding against impossible odds. Most of these impossible odds are not the direct result of Bond's bad decisions (deciding to not bring guns to a gun fight).
There are guns here.
Oh there aren't guns here?
There were 30 years ago, so I just assumed...
No I didn't bring any other guns.
There are micro machines here... At least... There were 30 years ago.
I have a doubt.
I thought it was pretty bad.
Well shot, though.
This is somewhat true of all first Bond movies after an actor change (they all kept Q), but especially true of Casino Royale and how it's kind of a reboot, but kept Dame Dench's M.
A bit of Logan's Run in there too...
It's actually typical of a lot of Dystopian movies/books/stories.