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My guess Trump will say he is anti-war. But he is not anti-self defence. DC speak?
He will say Ukraine and Israel are just doing self-defence. Which a vast majority of the US will buy hook, line and sinker because they don't have any idea what is going on in Gaza nor Lebanon. Usual US brain dead vast majority who csn't find most countries on a map.
The idiots are still spouting it is all about the right to defend the uncursion of Oct 2023. While Israel bombs 60,000 Gazans to death in their homes, shelters, hospitals. And the Israelis are blocking food, water and medicine from entering Gaza and they bomb the aid trucks and their goal is to starve the remaining 1.5 million Gazans to death.
Every day Gazan children are dying from starvation and adults too. The whole world not under Israel's thumb knows this is genocide and not defense now.
The UN has all but declared a genocide but with the US blocking any UN action against Israel's open goal to starve 1.5 Gazans to death to clear Gaza, the members of the UN are trying to find a way to stop the admitted slaughter.
October 2023??? The world knows better. Don't expect anything from Trump. The Israel lobby bought him for $100M donation. He is Israel's fekkin' poodle.
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Spoiler:
In the BBC version, they mess with viewer by giving a huge hint about who the turncoat is. Look at the fellows gathering around the table, in their same office attire of the day.
Then straggling in after everyone is assembled is Haydon, in his snazzy sports coat, irreverently kicking the door shut with his foot, balancing the tea cup with the saucer on top to stop spillage, then he just plops himself down.
He is the oddball, the rebel, the horse of a different color. Literally in a sportcoat that scandalously bucks the trend.
The first time I saw it, I thought oh he's the oddball, are they signalling us with the hint to keep in mind throughout that he's the mole?
Then, had to discount it. It seemed so obvious, I did not think a show that complex would be playing that kind of obvious reveal in the first scene. So, it lets the self-doubters get egg on their faces at the end, ha!
Take a look at "CashJordan" on his you tube channel before you go and decide if you are up for what is turning into a chaotic mess in some areas. New York is crumbling and has been flooded with almost 200,000 migrants they are trying to house and feed and a lot of hotels are full.
And the street and subway crime is way up, and lot is organized. The newest thing is guys on what seems like thousands of illegal mopeds doing drive-by muggings at outdoor restaurants and on sidewalks--shootings etc.
And due to the non-prosecution crime policy NYC has had for a long time, the criminals work freely and with no fear.
Cash is a real estate guy and lived in NYC a long time (not sure but he may have moved out further with his family). He is a drama queen for his videos, but his reporting is solid.
Oh, and I would avoid NYC after the Nov election. Whoever wins, the authorities are preparing for mass unrest in US cities. Not fun to chance that as a visitor if you can avoid the post-election time.
Yes, I just finally finished the series. The nice call back with the cars passing at Blenheim was neat. Kind of subtly tying the old Morse and later Morse who is still going to Blenheim for a concert--lovely continuity.
It bookended the first rear view mirror scene, perhaps in the pilot but very early, when the face in the mirror is Thaw's eyes for a second. I remember that scene hitting hard at the time.
No, you are not alone. It was beyond "out of place" for the Morse we knew. Unless they were latterly trying to suggest to us we don't know anything about Morse or Endeavour (or that his distressing convo with Thursday sent him into lalaland insanity, which is the only possible explanation for the "projectile" scene.)
SPOILERS..............
That is actually a great idea. So much to work with! Thursday's life was pretty amazing, long before he made his way to Oxford.
We could have flashbacks to his days of his amazing OSS service as a team leader, later meeting some former "enemy" agent on the mean streets of Soho living under a false identity in the '50s.
We could even go back, as an homage to the Endeavour ep "Sway" to see the wartime extramarital love affair with woman he later met in Oxford, after thinking she'd died in the war.
IMO, that was one of the best episodes, so moving. When grieving Thursday simply tells Morse say "she died of wounds" (showing how former agents treated later PTSD or worse deaths as attributable to battle even though her suicide was 20 years after she suffered so horribly as one of his agents), it was heartbreaking.
And the East London cases he'd have been working would leave scope for every imaginable crime and situation. Good heavens how many "faces" did Thursday take on? He might even tussle with the Krays.
What a great series that would be. But in reality, period shows are SO expensive to film, with London changing so much versus the old buildings in Oxford that can be used without much editing, it probably is unrealistic. Darnit!
Interesting question. Depends on what happened to Paige. Did she get in trouble? If so, was she ever allowed a passport due to her background? Henry was an innocent. But he also might have had problems getting a passport. But maybe they could emigrate and be allowed to do that. So it's an interesting question!
Agree absolutely. That look on Renee's face was not "our Renee." She watched with narrowed eyes, intent assessment, an un-recognizable expression and face, completely different from the always jovial Renee that was her cover. You could see the wheels turning.
My guess was that she may not have been taking the baton. She had to know with the Jennings' clearly gone, something went down. And that Stan would be in the Feeb cross hairs as would she.
After lingering in the driveway to assess what was happening, it looks like she had decided something. She walked back into the house, and likely was going to emerge in a few minutes, her purse in hand like she was going on an errand, to go instead to wherever her safe house was, get her bug-out bag and head for the train to Canada, too.
Stan burned? Jennings and being found out. She has to get out of there immediately, if she's one of them.
I was leaving conclusions open about Renee all the way along, until the final scene. That tied it up for me. She was a foreign agent. OR undercover Feeb or US Marshall because Stan had come under suspicion at some point, and someone wanted to do a deep surveillance all around.
But foreign agent is more likely, due to the marriage happening.
But one way or another, the camera lingering on Rene''s face at the end, close-up, watching her intently watch the Feebs crawling all over the Jennings' house. It told the tale.
Oh happy clappy smiley Renee. Always energetic, up for a good time. Hm.
None of that was present in the driveway. Her face had dropped every hint of every expression we've ever seen from her--it was cold, calculating, her eyes narrowed and watching the activity across the street with a very piercing professional air to it.
Finally. She turned and walked back inside. IMO, they showed us what she was right there--the actress played it perfectly. Not little softy Renee.
That "Renee" was someone else, someone who had dropped her act when alone in the driveway. You could see the wheels turning.
Somebody else she was, for sure. Who though? That we don't know. What do we want to bet she went back into the house, got her purse, got in the car to "go shopping," went to a place where her bug-out bag was and was on the next train to Canada?
That's my vote.
The Jennings are gone. Stan's finished with the FBI. Toast. She ain't gonna stay around until the the Stan thing disintegrates and she's brought in for questioning? Hello Canada.
Yes! I remember watching it the night it premiered on tv. It was an amazing opening to a series for sure! Don't remember anything like it before that.
Always was. And if they'd stuck to the every day stuff and not succumbed to having them constantly killing people, the show might not have lasted more than one season on its merits as a deep character study in a very weird world! Ha.
This.
The plot was to have the run to the Canadian border be successful so that they could later be seen at home in Russia. If authorities were on the platform, and caught Paige, they'd have caught Philip and Elizabeth, too.
Abandoning a finale to a cheap arrest chase would not have worked with the show's whole theme.
The power of Paige's end was in having Paige "escape" from the safety of her parents' well-planned bug-out plan, as a result of Paige's per usual over-confidence in her own righteousness, to return to Granny's flat where she was just being groomed as the next generation and never knew that's all it was.
Paige finally did herself in. Well done. She's alone. No place to go but the streets to try to live anonymously?
I suspect Paige was knocking on Stan Beeman's door in a day or two. Come what may, though good luck to Stan. Best friends with a sleeper family for years.
Oh dear oh dear. Bye bye pension.
It has been awhile since seeing it, but glad to see there is an active board.
As for Paige, if memory serves, she was very open to being the next generation sleeper. I think she bought Granny's act, hook line and sinker, really--which was only grooming of course.
Paige decided no RU for her, she was feeling estranged from her parents so thought no, I'm not going to RU with them. Why not just stay and serve?
So, she went directly to Granny, which was logical, because that was of course a safe place and she likely thought Granny would be there for her and bring her in as a operative in some way.
IMO, that is why that scene is so poignant. She must have realized then that her parents were trying to protect her by getting her to safety with them.
Because now she's sitting in the vacated apartment, not knowing what to do next. There's no real Granny. No real apartment. No real anything. Her parents' op has been rolled up.
She's been had.
In 2024 they would be crying and telling reporters that the coach was making threatening micro-expressions.
Good point!
Yes, up there with the greats. Wish there were more Sandbaggers fans around in my world to discuss the show. One thing that American audiences might have missed that made the show more layered was the obvious social class games that were going on, especially with Burnside.
It reminded me a lot of "Jewel in the Crown" in which, if you did not understand Ronald Merrick's character, his background, why he'd have ended up as a colonial police officer, the social class situation between him and Hari Kumar, etc., key motivations for the characters is entirely lost.
I miss the old British shows before international streaming began, when they were made for a British audience, so were imbued with a lot of "inside baseball" social signals for characters that let you understand them without the show having to spell it out in dialogue. Merrick was one of those characters.
IMO, without understanding Burnside's and Merrick's place in the British social pecking order, so much of what they do and the reasons they do it are lost on a viewer and just the plot remains and some interactions seem confusing.
I miss the old IMDB message boards. In the early days, it was an amazing place to trade insights and background information people brought to the table. Dare I say, this early idea of boards was "civilized." Ha.
Mad Men had to be one of the better boards of all time then, an example that quip about the British blood being spilled!
The first MM comments that were a hint about where social media was beginning to take young people, was a threat in which some young female viewers said they would not watch this "disgusting show!" because of the way women were treated by the men and company and why was this even allowed on TV? "This needs to be banned!" (This was the first season time period.
The other classic, entirely predictable "I'm not watching this disgusting show," came from the threads complaining that the show's cast was unacceptably white and not diverse. This might actually be amusing even now, except that of course the modern Georgian-era costume dramas regularly have half of their cast of artistocratic nobles being played by African-American or Afro-Caribbean actors.
So joke's on me.
That was the time when an oldie like me realized for the first time, really, that young people in spite of the internet and accessibility to information, were not being taught nor exposed to any kind of history or social context before "today," so every historic scene has to conform to 21st century standards of behavior and language or it's some kind of unacceptable racist or prejudiced expression.
It kind of shocked me at that time, because that was not the case with previous generations, who seem to realize "things were different in the past" and Mad Men was highlighting that as a purposeful part of the script and story to show how people lived then and interacted--which is what the drama was about! And that the drama is a window on a different time and place.
I despair....ha.