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I think Trump would have reacted a lot harder than Joe.
But ... I guess we will see ...
Yeah, i guess you're right.
I doubt Putin wants to start a nuclear war. There is no chance to win a nuclear war.
So it's just a bark through the fence, imho.
"Be better. One side has to be."
Both sides are shit.
I don't think I heard the argument that Democrats started the war.
But I heard the idea that if Trump was president Putin would have stayed in his corner.
"Nope , all of that is bullshit,"
All of that is history, you should learn some, read some.
Or if you really want to "debunk" it then tell me, punctually, what is bullshit. And I will provide you evidence for my claims.
"how could "only when all capitalist states are overthrown" be logical? Any young upn copming cocialist state that wants to operate that way could simply ignore other states if it wants to . why does it have to kill them ?"
Ask Marx, ask Lenin, ask Stalin and all other Marxists. It's not me who postulates that.
https://rosalux-geneva.org/why-socialism-must-be-internationalist/
Well, even if we add "hush money" from dubious sources to make her not talk it's still not as bad as rape.
Debatable. I would say he did and she was/is too afraid to come out.
But there are other allegations, some really credible. And you know ... #metoo #trustthewomen ...
"Beyond that it seems all you've done is call me ignorant because I disagree with you."
Yeah, If I say 2+2=4 and you disagree with me ... well, yeah, you're ignorant. You don't disagree with me but with ... science.
The fact that Ukraine is not part of Russia is well documented and historically attested. Disagreeing with historical facts IS ignorant.
And it's funny that Putin have used the argument "we are only defending the Russia population in Ukraine" several times. What does that tell you? That the rest of population is NOT Russian but Ukrainian. And yes there are ethnic differences, language and cultural, not understanding this is ignorant.
Again, leave the typical American ignorance aside and educate yourself in some history. Start with the links I provided.
As for US getting involved, you don't understand the implications of not getting involved.
Hint: Belgium was neutral in WW2, that didn't stop the Nazi Germany to invade it.
Let me teach you some more history: if USA wouldn't had been involved in the war since the begining - sending help to UK, USSR, etc (the lend-lease program) now the whole world would speak German. Including USA. What do you think it would happen when your traditional enemies conquer the whole world while you do nothing because ... it's not your fight. When it becomes your fight it might be too late for you. And it WILL become your fight sooner or later.
“ The U.S. aren't the world police.‘
They surely acted like that so far. Or is IT OK only when US benefits from playing the “world police”? You pretended to be the worl police, kinda late to stop doing that after fucking so much of this world …
“ You seem to think Russia is going to attempt to conquer Europe.‘
wouldn’t be the first time, read some history. Read Putin’s statements about the mighty old USSR. Ah, wait, ignorants don’t like to read.
“ what does that have to do with the U.S.?‘
treaties, alliances, NATO, etc.
“ Alarmist fear-mongers like you want to go to war constantly.”
Actually the opposite, I want the wars to stop, but not under any conditions. It like you would say, if Mexico shots one bullet over the border, USA should surrender in order to not be a war …
The war is already started and going on, I want it to stop.
“ If Russia takes back Ukraine--which is an accurate statement‘
as I said it’s not accurate, or maybe it is for ignorant, stupid Americans with zero knowledge of history.
Clinton.
There is no "Russia taking back Ukraine".
Ukraine was a separate state in USSR and Russia was a separate state as well and the tsarist empire ... well, was an empire, if you know what I mean. If your basing on that it's like arguing that UK should get back India, China, and 80% of the world.
In fact Ukraine (Kyiv) is a LOT older than Moscow and Russia ...
Read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/yc92dn/ukraine_is_an_older_different_kingdom_compared_to/
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/07/01/there-is-no-ukraine-fact-checking-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/
"So you'd prefer World War 3"
If Russia occupies (or "takes back, lmao) Ukraine then what else would it be entitled to "take back"? Belorussia? Moldova? The Baltic countries? Maybe some territory in Finland? Regain it's sphere of influence in East Europe?
IMHO if Russia is "allowed" to get Ukraine then the door is really open to a much larger ww3. Russia would try to extend it's sphere of influence, China would feel that USA is weak and will feel encouraged to attack Taiwan and maybe more than just Taiwan. A military alliance between Russia, China and Iran would be more devastating in a ww3 than just NATO against a weak Russia.
Nope, that's a reality. See the whole history of USSR (including it's efforts to help the Nazi Germany prior to operation Barbarossa and the attempts to join the Axis). See the cold war. See the main manifesto of socialism: "socialism is possible only when all capitalist states are overthrown and the whole world is socialist" - those positioning itself as a de facto enemy of USA and the capitalist world. See Putin acts (including the invasion of Ukraine) and declarations.
I know, some of you don't want to see/accept reality ...
First he should stop the influx of new illegal immigrants.
That alone is a small victory.
Then criminals, felons, etc. You did something stupid? GTFO.
Then asylum seekers that are housed in hotels and other places: you know where they are ... ship them outside to wait for the decision at a port of entry. Or whatever.
Then sweep home depot parking lots, full of immigrants (some illegal) that are looking for some quick work.
And so forth.
Thanks for your experiments and sacrifice.
in the name of science!!!
The rationale of being from East Europe and experiencing already enough USSR influence.
The US has interests in Ukraine, even if it's just to weaken a traditional enemy.
South Vietnam was not part of NATO
Kuwait was not part of NATO
Somalia was not part of NATO
None of those were fighting Russia ...
"A historic enemy of the USA is invading a European country...... and the USA does nothing??" well ... so far ... they didn't want to start WW3.
"It was after all just for money and oil?"
yes, it always is ;)
He forgot to mention he is the 5 years old ...
The first two at least are much more a staple of the liberals ... also 5 and 6. And who are the most toxic liberals? Yeah, the white ones.
"NATO invoked its collective defence clause (Article 5) for the first and only time in response to the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 on the United States"
THIS is very weak.
US is a member of NATO, Ukraine is not.