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<i>”Republicans took those shouts and turned them into something they were not meant to be.”</i>
Oh, really? <i>”Pigs in a blanket, fry ‘em like bacon!”</i> Ring a bell?
<b>Defund the Police’ Minneapolis Sees Most Homicides Since Mid-1990s</b>
“<b>On December 2, 2020, months after the council’s pledge to abolish the police,</b> the Star Tribune reported homicides in the city reached their highest level since the mid-1990s. The number of homicides thus far in 2020 is 79 and the number of shooting victims in the city is over 500.”
Read the first sentence again. I would think abolishing the police, is defunding them.
<i>”We have been going backwards as a country thanks to Republican dirty tricks and lies like falsely blaming the Democrats for wanting to defund the police...”</i>
Do you watch and listen to the news with serious thought? It wasn’t Republicans shouting “Defund the Police”! BLM, Antifa, Alt-Left Democrats were shouting it daily while they burned, looted and caused mayhem & murder!
<b>'It's not a slogan': Progressives push back on Obama's comments on 'defund the police' movement</b>
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/528391-its-not-a-slogan-cori-bush-other-progressives-push-back-on-obamas-comments-on?utm_source=thehill&utm_medium=widgets&utm_campaign=es_recommended_content
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
Martin Niemoller
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
Martin Niemoller
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
Martin Niemoller
😱👏🏻👏🏻
I’ll do one better. “Pathetic excuse for a post” by a pathetic human being. Anyone who has such hatred in his/her heart is pathetic. To malign people because they vote differently is pathetic. The heart has become as dark as coal which is not only pathetic, it’s pitiful.
Not true!
U.S. Casualties World War II 1941–45 291,557 died in battle/113,842 died from other causes,
and 670,846 were wounded.
Covid-19 Deaths 268,504
Recovered. 6,470,576
March 11 was the pandemic declaration. Just talking to people no one was really that concerned. Mostly a European problem. It was still the flu to us. I checked the flu statistics. No big thing compared to the flu. If the politicians were saying go about your business, but stay home if sick, we weren’t worried. I think we started paying more attention with the run on toilet paper, the panic buying. Why toilet paper?
“The dems were concerned on March 6,”
I don’t think the dems were any more concerned than the rest of America. We all had a rude awakening by March 15, which btw is The Ides of March.
de Blasio (a Democrat)on Jan.26
“What we do know, to date, is that only through prolonged exposure can someone contract this virus. It is not a situation as with some other diseases where a single contact would be enough.”
This was the first of many times that city officials unknowingly shared information about the coronavirus that was not accurate, and they encouraged city residents to continue activities that probably continued the spread of the virus. With New York City now the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, the decisions and statements by city officials from late January to early March have an unnerving sense of whistling past the graveyard, with well-meaning but bad advice exacerbating the coming deluge.
“The de Blasio administration is prepared for the likelihood of the novel coronavirus in New York City,” Dr. Raul Perea-Henze, the city’s deputy mayor for health and human services, said on January 24. “We urge all New Yorkers to continue to pursue their everyday activities and routines, but to remain aware of the facts about coronavirus. Those with a travel history should see a doctor at the first sign of any flu-like symptoms.”
He also was reluctant to close schools.
Feb. 27
Coronavirus concerns: Speaker Pelosi tours San Francisco's Chinatown to show it's safe
She invited people to come and shop.
This was March 6 when many people weren’t that concerned. We had the first death Feb. 29, seven days prior. It was going to be no worse than the flu where up to 80,000 died in 2017. I wasn’t concerned believing the same. Hindsight is so wonderful while playing Monday Morning Quarterback.
Things started rapidly changing by March 11 when it was declared a pandemic...it seemed to be hour by hour. We still were somewhat complacent believing a real bad flu was coming. Up until around the 15th we thought it was mostly hyperbole. By March 18 we knew something worse than the flu was coming. We started paying attention.
As far as Trump not knowing people died from the flu...I was embarrassed for him. He should have checked with his advisors before making such an ignorant statement!
FactCheck: Democrats’ Misleading Coronavirus Claims
The CDC’s operating budgets, not adjusted for inflation, show the CDC funding has gone up a bit under Trump.
The Trust for America’s Health 2019 report on funding of the public health system includes a chart on CDC funding adjusted for inflation, and that shows a small overall decrease, of $460 million from fiscal 2016 to 2019, or $170 million from fiscal 2017 to 2019. (See Figure 2.) However, that chart notes that a comparison with 2019 funding requires accounting for a transfer of CDC funds to the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response. After making that adjustment, and another for one-time laboratory funding that boosted the 2018 budget, the report says the CDC had “flat funding in inflation-adjusted dollars” from 2018 to 2019.
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The 2020 CDC operating plan shows an increase from 2019 of 7%, adjusted for inflation, according to the Trust for America’s Health.
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Overall, the group’s report says there has been a “chronic underfunding” of the public health system in the U.S.,
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but that began before Trump took office and has continued.
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FactCheck: Trump and the ‘New Hoax’
Then the president, who often dismissed special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation as a hoax, continued, “They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.” Not the virus.
Hmm? This story is over 2 years old...digging in the archives? Did you miss this part:
“The action was “encouraged by bipartisan leaders from across the political spectrum, from NANCY PELOSI to Orrin Hatch...”?
the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” – James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788“
Did you not understand or maybe you didn’t read all that I wrote. The 13 States each had their own Constitutions which guaranteed the right to bear arms. Madison made sure those States would ratify the US Constitution so he added the 2nd Amendment.
Militia: The militia of the United States, as defined by the U.S. Congress, has changed over time. During colonial America, all able-bodied men of certain ages were members of the militia, depending on the respective states rule. Individual towns formed local independent militias for their own defense. The year before the US Constitution was ratified, The Federalist Papers detailed the founders' paramount vision of the militia in 1787. The new Constitution empowered Congress to "organize, arm, and discipline" this national military force, leaving significant control in the hands of each state government.
But, he compromised by letting the each State tweak the amendment in order to satisfy the Anti-Federalists who were fearful of a centralized government; any centralized government.
Anti-Federalists, like Thomas Jefferson, wanted the absolute smallest federal / centralized government as absolutely possible to ensure the rights of the people and the states would not be infringed. The way to that was to insure the right of the people, who made up militia, who were necessary to maintain a free State (nation, rather than independent state) — to keep and bear arms and for that right of the people never to be infringed.”
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/the-founding-fathers-explain-the-second-amendment-this-says-it-all
“The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824“
“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation,
We can thus claim that the right to bear arms has an origin stemming from the English Bill of Rights of 1689, as asserted by this New York Court:
The state constitutions drafted in the revolutionary war era therefore included provisions guaranteeing the right to bear arms and prohibiting standing armies in time of peace. The relevant provisions of the English Bill of Rights of 1689 provided a useful model for the colonial drafters.32
“AN EARLY PRECEDENT: MILITIAS AND THE OWNERSHIP OF WEAPONS
One of the first documents to link the bearing of arms with a militia (an army composed of citizens called to action in time of emergency) was the English Assize of Arms of 1181, which directed every free man to have access to weaponry. Henry II of England (1133–1189) signed this law to enable the rapid creation of a militia when needed, but the law also permitted carrying arms in self-defense and forbade the use of arms only when the intention was to “terrify the King's subjects.” In 1328, under the reign of King Edward III (1312–1377), Parliament enacted the Statute of Northampton, which prohibited the carrying of arms in public places but did not overrule the right to carry arms in self-defense.”
The following are some excerpts from America’s first State Constitutions:30
Constitution for Massachusetts —1780
CHAPTER V, ART. XVII. The people have a right to keep and bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.
Constitution of North Carolina—1776
XVII. The people have a right to bear arms, for the defence of the State; and, as standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up.
Constitution of Pennsylvania—1776
XIII. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
Constitution of Vermont—1777
XV. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State; and, as standing armies, in the time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up.
Some of the other original states implied the existence of the right of the people to bear arms within the context of the militia, such as Virginia had done:
The Constitution of Virginia—1776
SEC. 13. That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free State.31
It is quite evident from the circumstances at this period in time that the right of a person to keep and bear arms prevailed throughout the colonies, and the foregoing declarations further substantiated this fact. The declaration of rights in these constitutions merely reaffirmed those natural and common law rights they possessed as Englishmen.
You need to read US History to understand why we have a fundamental right to bear arms.
Right to Bear Arms:
The text of the Second Amendment reads in full: “A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” The framers of the Bill of Rights adapted the wording of the amendment from nearly identical clauses in some of the original 13 state constitutions.
The Original State Constitutions:
With the signing of the Declaration of Independence, the colonies declared that they were “Free and Independent States.” This declaration secured all of the “unalienable rights” which every free man possesses, and it cannot be doubted that the right to keep and bear arms was among those rights. The spirit of this document was proclaimed by James Otis, who said in 1764:
And he that would palm the doctrine of unlimited passive obedience and non-resistance upon mankind ... is not only a fool and a knave, but a rebel against common sense, as well as the laws of God, of Nature, and his Country.
This concept was incorporated into the original State Constitutions of New Hampshire (1784), and Maryland (1776); and proclaimed by the State Conventions of Virginia and North Carolina in 1788, as proposals for a Bill of Rights in ratifying the U.S. Constitution. The language used was:
The doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
In applying this American principle we are to resist Federal or State officials who, as usurpers, defy the limits of their powers imposed by the law of God and the Constitution.
As these newly formed “independent states” were drafting constitutions, they enumerated the more important rights they possessed as free men. It is significant to note that several of these states specifically singled out the right to keep and bear arms as one of their most cherished rights.
“I am sorry but you do not have the right to bear arms.”
I believe the SCOTUS knows a bit more about the 2nd Amendment than you do.
“It would be nearly 70 years before the court took up the issue again, this time in the District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008. The case centered on Dick Heller, a licensed special police office in Washington, D.C., who challenged the nation's capital's handgun ban.
*For the first time, the Supreme Court ruled that despite state laws, individuals who were not part of a state militia did have the right to bear arms. As part of its ruling, the court wrote, "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."*
“ A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
You can’t have a “well regulated Militia” without “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms” and it should not be undermined. This country was fighting for freedom against a tyrannical king so Madison wrote the amendment, for the people to defend themselves.
Whenever I travel by road my firearm is on me. We have firearms ready in case of a home invasion. Your solution would be “Just a sec while I call the police, before you rob, rape and murder us. Would that work for you?”
“do I think giving untrained people automatic and other guns will increase safety” Apparently you are unaware the guns you are referring to are most likely NOT “automatic”...they are semi-automatic.