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One thing that bothered me...
Superliminal
What went wrong?
Originally Mortal Kombat?
Anxiety was pure genius *SPOILERS*
So happy to be wrong
Don't think I've ever seen a movie....
Is it just me? (Mel's look)
Is it really that bad? A fresh perspective?
Great film, but one thing I didn't understand... [Spoilers]
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Well apparently it was originally meant to be Chris Martin from Coldplay, so I don't think there's any ego at play here. Also in the movie he's quickly clear that his songwriting skills can't even compare. I think they just needed a decent famous modern songwriter, and there aren't many of those around anymore, the charts is just full of absolute trash.
I had a more cynical take, that the relationship was purely platonic (like brother and sister as she stated) until he started getting famous, and then she suddenly decided she loved him romantically...
For some reason, the idea they didn't exist never crossed my mind. I just figured they never formed a band.
From a science-fiction perspective it's a really heavily flawed concept, for the exact reason you've highlighted. A change in the past like the Beatles no longer existing would create a massive butterfly effect, and everything in this new reality would be completely different. To be accurate from a sci-fi perspective he would have to have recovered from his accident as a complete stranger, an unknown who suddenly knew these amazing songs. In fact, there's a whole new version of the film in there:
In the hospital nobody knows who he is, he leaves to find his house (and his parents) occupied by strangers. About to give up hope he spots [love interest], who doesn't know him but takes pity. She gives him a place to sleep, and as they talk he spots her guitar, and plays Yesterday while she's in the bathroom. She's entranced, and he explains about the Beatles. She thinks he's crazy, but asks to hear more songs, she thinks they're incredible and arranges for a recording session. From there the film progresses largely the same, with the love story unfolding parallel to his rise to fame, only featuring the two others who remember earlier and making them a couple, who effectively become his parental figures in this new alternate reality.
Ultimately though, it's not a sci-fi movie so the logistics of that element of the film are largely unimportant. I can see it irking some people, especially sci-fi fans, but I think most people are able to ignore it and just enjoy the film for what it is.
What a strange thread. The global familiarity with literally dozens of Beatles songs is very, very hard to compare to anything or anyone else. Certainly an argument there for Elvis and probably Michael Jackson, but Led Zeppelin? Black Sabbath? Putting the popularity of their body of work on the level of the Beatles is just nonsense. Stairway to Heaven is just one song...
Apparently that was basically the plot of the original, darker script, before Richard Curtis got a hold of it. I would actually like to have seen that, it could have made a powerful statement about the state of the modern music industry. In reality he would have played Yesterday and his friends would have said "hey, that's a pretty song" and got on with their lives. There is still great music being made today, but it goes completely ignored and the charts are full of talentless hacks with an Instagram account.
Came here to say exactly this.
I liked this movie, but it's clearly not a Batman movie. The thick 70s influence throughout, homages to Bruce Lee, James Bond, blaxploitation... Batman appears as a character twice throughout the movie and I'm not sure the name Batman is said even once, referred to as simply "that costume" and called Bruce at all times.
My guess is that work was already underway on the movie, a love letter to 70s media, when someone from marketing came down from on high and told them it simply wasn't going to be profitable unless they could tie it to a big franchise name. So they replaced one of the characters with Bruce Wayne, set a chunk of it in Gotham, and turned it into a Batman movie. He wasn't even the main character in his own movie! That would be Richard Dragon, he is clearly the real protagonist.
It's sad but true that these days animations like this simply won't get made unless they can tie it to a recognised brandname or franchise, it's far too risky as a project. In a fairer world this would have just been called "Soul of the Dragon", Bruce Wayne would have been a different character, and it would have been an attempt (failed or otherwise) to start a new franchise based on Richard Dragon. (Hate that name though, doesn't sound right at all).
When the 3 snake beasts/demons come through the gate, they devour Rip, but Jade is also on the ground at that spot. It's fair to assume they devoured her body too.
They could shut one of them up by saying that the Hulk reflected in the claws was actually She-Hulk....
Ironically you should feel nothing but embarrassment looking back at this post.
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