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All true but again leaves open the question of why the specific dominance of Brits & Australians in that grifter space.
Show me on the doll where the 'woke' touched you 🙎♂️
That explains the incentive for the grift, naturally but it doesn't explain the heavy presence of white Brit & Australian YouTube grifters in particular. Off the top of my head, I can't think of as many Americans, despite the U.S. pretty much being Alt-right, anti-"woke" headquarters.
Is 'woke' in the room with us right now? You're a walking meme, dude.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that a high percentage of the "anti woke entertainment" grifters do in fact tend to be from the UK or Australia, for some reason. I'm sure there has to be a specific reason but I could only speculate why.
Wrong. I'm just not an Alt-right cult follower obsessed with shouting "woke" at everything like a good parrot, who can't properly think for themselves. No doubt the grifters appreciate making money off of you drones.
The grift is just so predictable & boring at this point that I just mentally check out whenever I come across a YouTuber who starts parroting the same "anti-woke" reactionary talking points we've all heard for the 1000th time.
I'm just not interested in being part of this cult of Alt-right dudebros who eat this shit up. No thanks. Give me a proper review/critical analysis that isn't preoccupied with stoking far right identity politics.
Yes. It's stuff like that makes it pretty obvious that strings were being pulled. Someone was holding on to that for years in case he got out of line. Not to mention that it has nothing to do with the charges against him. Just one more thing to manipulate public opinion.
I'm no P diddy fan by any stretch but this case does seem a bit trumped up. Like he pissed off someone powerful and they're pulling his card. The case just screams of "Yeah, This fairly typical showbiz degeneracy that we all know goes on behind closed doors is now arbitrarily criminal behavior in this particular case because we say so". I hate how there's no clear-cut charges to justify all of the hoopla. It makes me suspicious when I see such a concerted effort to flood the public with every bit of nefarious conjecture & hyperbole, along with the kitchen sink to bias & convict someone in the court of public opinion & that's exactly what's happening in this Diddy case, with a large majority of people not even being clear on exactly what he's even being charged. Then of course comes the unscrupulous media whores like Gloria Alred to send an open invitation to anyone & everyone to dogpile accusations for $.
I have little doubt that Diddy is an industry man who likely screwed a lot of people over to get where he was. Most likely not a great guy but everything about this case against him feels very disingenuous and EXTRA. This isn't about any "victims" or justice. It's about Diddy pissing some people off that he shouldn't have & now they're showing him who's boss.
Given that this website has a strong Alt-right presence userbase it's no surprise that the attitudes towards Michael Jackson here would be dominantly negative. As I've touched on before Michael Jackson's unparalleled success & superstardom as a black man shattered racial barriers & surpassed all of their favorite white artists which indeed includes Paul Mccartney. After he entered uncharted territory, shattering records with the biggest album of all time & started making some serious business moves, he made powerful enemies within the industry. For all of his millions of fans across the racial spectrum, it still burned the souls of those who preferred the systemic status quo & these people have long held a vested interest in tearing him down ever since.
I think it's important to stand up & defend innocent people, especially someone like Michael Jackson who accomplished the impossible as an artist & also gave so much to the world that will carry on forever. There's no sense in allowing bad/woefully misguided people to get away with spreading lies about him in their desperate attempts to tarnish his legacy.
Sorry for the late reply but I haven't had much time to be on these boards recently. I appreciate you acknowledging that that you neglected to account for an entire continent of people (I include Asia as well) when postulating the extent of Michael Jackson's worldwide fame compared to any other music artist.
As I previously said, I just can't get behind any level of victim blaming. You can't blame someone for not being prepared "enough" for wildly false accusations/extortion attempts for money. Again as I said before, if it wasn't the "boys" angle, these bad actors who was ever in his presence at one point could have just as easily fabricated any number of lies against him. Not a good argument. The real issue is how shameful & corrupt it was the case wasn't simply thrown out for the completely frivolous lie that it was.
The Bashir interview was widely edited out of context & Michael was smart enough to have his own film crew filming simultaneously. He was never alone in his giant bed with the Garvizo kids. He slept on the floor and there were always other people around. He took precautions against false accusations, and it still happened anyway because of a corrupt system where bad actors with influence wanted to put him through the ringer, even though the obviously trumped-up farce would never stick. But yes, even though he took precautions to protect himself, that family of known scamming grifters should have never been allowed anywhere near him. His people screwed up on that for sure.
I'm not sure what you're on about drugs. If you're referring to his death, he put his trust into a doctor who killed him & went to prison for it.
Like i said. I don't know what to tell you other than the bubbles that you exist in do not reflect reality when you say things like try to speak for the world about having forgotten about impact of Michael Jackson worldwide superstardom and the legacy of his music. It's hyperbole to the extreme & simply incorrect.
You touch on the exact issues I had with this performance, although I don't know if I'd call it a "fine job" unless comedy was the goal. His entire performance felt like he thought he was in a comedy while literally everyone else was playing straight crime/heist/drama. I saw these years ago & couldn't help but think to myself during every scene he was in, why would anyone feel intimidated by this eccentric, old clown? And more importantly, as you touch on, why would any serious crime organization give him the kind of responsibility that requires basic people skills? It's ironic that Kingsley's performance is what's most remembered about this film when I didn't really feel engaged by it until the character was killed off.
Victim blaming. He was targeted for extortion. Twice. He can't be blamed for the first extortion case unless the argument is that he should have completely isolated himself from anyone & everyone who could potentially concoct false allegations against him for money. I agree that settling was a huge mistake as it ultimately just made him a bigger target for those looking for an easy payday but legally it made sense as California had a nonsensical law at the time that allowed for people to be sued, civilly before being tried criminally which would have given away his defense, so he was advised to pay & prepare for the criminal trial which of course never happened because the scumbag, lying extortionist Evan Chandler took the money and ran.
For the second case, It is crazy that he didn't have people around him to properly vet any strangers trying to weasel their way into his life, to the point where a well-known family of grifters with a track record of trying to scam celebrities were allowed to get that close to him before he was warned about them & by then it was too late. Of course, the grifter mom initially tried to sue, but unbeknownst to her, the law allowing a civil case before a criminal case had since been changed, so they didn't have a choice, if they still wanted their payday. It was a corrupt travesty that that absolute laughable case actually went to trial, despite the inevitable acquittal.
Unfortunately, enduring years of attacks & sabotage took their toll on his mental & physical health.
Africa is a continent of almost a billion & a half people. Who do you think is more well known & revered there? Michael Jackson or Paul Mccartney? We both know the answer and that's an objective measure of their worldwide fame. Not my opinion. The popular opinions of moviechat/stormfront(dot)org are irrelevant.
I assure you that the reality of Jackson's legacy & how he is perceived exists outside of the spaces that you frequent.
Not really about opinion. It's about corroborating factors to formulate the conclusion that Michael Jackson is indeed the most famous musician of all time.
Michael Jackson's career was sabotaged in his prime, yet his fame & popularity has endured even after he was killed. You were given examples. Mccartney is indeed in what is probably the biggest band of all time & he is very successful & one of the most famous musicians in the world but he is simply not more famous than Michael Jackson. Jackson is famous throughout the continent of Africa for one example(the remote villages was just an extreme example) in a way that Mccartney simply is not.
Despite the odd constructive conversation about movies, tv, and celebrities, Moviechat is alt-right central & hardly an accurate place to get an estimation how Michael Jackson is perceived.
Jeez. 9 separate replies? What is going on with this thread? Anyway, "Do some studying" isn't a rebuttal to anything.
“MJ is irrelevant today - McCartney still packs em in and can still sell records. Thus, in terms of all time, he is the most famous singer in history.”
Do you find anyone who's no longer alive to be irrelevant is or is it just something that you arbitrarily assign Michael Jackson despite the ample evidence to the contrary? Again beyond your Mccartney fanboying & increasingly not so low-key Michael Jackson hate, what metric are you basing this on? Michael Jackson is still selling records & his streaming numbers are in the 10s of billions. A recent Michael Jackson themed Broadway production has been a smash hit & there’s also an upcoming biopic in production. Again, his fame has endured & there remains a huge interest & demand in spite of the years of career sabotage & failed attempts to tarnish his legacy since his death. It’s a tough pill for Michael Jackson haters to swallow but it’s the truth.