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That day is almost here! My hope is that it will include never before seen footage such as the wedding scene between David and Sarah that never made it into the movie. This is my favorite Phoebe Cates film and it's far better and more entertaining than The Blue Lagoon.
Too many people as well as the media give this movie so much bad press, but apart from Willie Aames' atrocious acting and the pointless chimpanzee scenes this movie is well worth the watch...for Phoebe of course, but it's not a bad film and it's definitely not a boring one. I was far more entertained by Paradise than by The Blue Lagoon where you don't really see Brooke Shields in the nude, she's either covered up or a body double was used. Not too mention The Blue Lagoon took a long time to get going whereas in Paradise they really cut to the chase and Phoebe Cates really delivers the goods upon the viewer. I got the Studio Canal DVD that was issued in Spain that is completely uncensored and doesn't blur out Willie Aames's penis during the skinny dipping swim scene with Phoebe. This will always be one of my favorite films that helped me during puberty and a nude Phoebe Cates still gets a hard erection from me.
Nicole Kidman and Billy Zane are the real stars of the film. The movie sizzles when both are on screen at the same time.
As an 11 year old in 1983, I loved Return Of The Jedi. As an adult, it's my least favorite of the OT, mainly because of the silly Ewoks and the fact that they reused the Death Star when they should have come up with something different. Was massively disappointed with the Prequels (George Lucas raped my childhood) for its bad acting, even worse dialogue, and that it ruined the backstory leading up to the Original Trilogy. It also ruined the backstories of both Anakin and Boba Fett, so I find it hard to accept the Prequels as canon. I haven't watched them in their entirety since 2006. As for Disney, I knew back in 2012 when George sold it that they were going to ruin it. I never fell for the hype and took a wait and see approach. When Disney got rid of the Expanded Universe and the scathing reviews came in from longtime fans I have boycotted every single Disney Star Wars film. All that crap is non canon to me, even Rogue One and the Mandalorian. The only real Star Wars to me is the unaltered non-cgi Original Trilogy and the EU, nothing else.
Yup, it will always be "Star Wars" to me. Despite the fact that the "Episode IV A NEW HOPE" was added in 1981 the mainstream media didn't start referring to it as A New Hope until 1996, just a year prior to those horrendous 'Special Editions' coming out.
Stop spreading your lies, you don't know Sam Neill. In fact, you don't know jack sh*t about anything.You're just here to waste our time spewing nonsense and spreading your hateful vitriol.
You guys may try and double down with your petty arguments and childish behaviour, but SaraceänWarriner is right. If you REALLY watch the film and completely analyze it you'd come to the same conclusions he's pointed out. This is Rae's story of loss and gain, of weakness and strength, of her evolving from timid housewife to a brave seductive and resourceful warrior woman. The events that transpired aboard the Ingram yatch was due to her husband's carelessness and forced her in a position where she needed to do what had to be done in order to rescue him and survive herself. Even though Hughie was an obstacle she had to overcome there was no doubt there was a physical attraction between the two. Her reactions to him during the seduction were genuine and not an act just to survive. She willfully wrapped her arms around him during their kiss, allowed him to undress her and lifted her arms so he could remove her shirt. Grinding against him and kissing his chest as well as her allowing him inside her and experiencing a sex flush. So all your arguments to the contrary fall flat.
Your childish demeanor in insulting our posts clarifying our views on the film shows that it's you who needs the help. Venting and spewing your crap isn't going to change my position regarding Dead Calm.
The film fully implies John to be a beta male and a cuckold despite him being a naval officer. I fully agree with you that he would have consented his wife bearing the child of another man rather than lose her and also due to the fact that because of his careless decisions he owes Rad his life because she had to go out of her way to rescue him. So even if he found out that Hughie impregnated his wife he would have to accept it due to his fault in abandoning Rae and leaving her alone with a younger stronger suitor who was more virile and more capable of fulfilling her needs and desires.
It also brings the story full circle, after rescuing her husband, Rae and John's marriage is saved and she now has a new child to love and care for within the loving confines of her union to John.
While you may state the contrary, this was not a rape incident but the physical union between two troubled individuals seeking fulfillment.
Rae was not raped by Hughie. This was full consensual intercourse between two willing participants. She was in survival mode but so was he, and in times of survival one must pass along one's seed in order for the lineage to survive. There's no doubt Rae was sexually attracted to Hughie and vice versa.
Didn't you notice the heavy pants and moans while Hughie groped her breast after they kissed and when he tore off her short? she was clearly aroused and excited being kissed and stripped nude by a younger and handsome suitor who was physically stronger and more sexually virile than John. So much so that she kissed down his chest before getting up and putting on her robe, that was done as a result of passion.
Hughie never forced himself on Rae, letting her roam freely about the yacht and even made an attempt to befriend her when tensions between them escalated. He complimented her beauty and was there to console her in her time of need.
She willfully lead him to her and John's bed where she once again got nude and performed oral sex on Hughie. Granted, we the audience don't get to witness it but it was implied she went down on him. Didn't you see Rae roll her eyes back with Hughie standing fully nude in front of her? She was being carried away by lust and passion and desired to have him deep inside her. She allowed him to move on top of her and allowed him to suckle her breasts while wrapping her arms around his neck. When the moment came for Hughie to penetrate her, she mouthed the words "Do it" giving him her full consent for him to fully enter her. This was not rape by any means.
Keep in mind the events that lead to the voyage in the first place. She lost her only child in an accident and her marriage to John was strained. Hughie came in and was able to separate her from John who is a beta male and was able to fulfill her carnal desires by satisfying her sexually and providing his seed to impregnate her with a new child which she willfully accepted.
I believe John would not have the courage to ask his wife if she cheated on him. As mentioned above, it's very possible he might know that Rae went above and beyond in her efforts to rescue him, even if it meant losing his chance at fathering another child. As you mentioned, he failed Rae not only as a husband but also as a man. Due to his age and declining stamina, it's very doubtful that John would be able to impregnate Rae once more after already doing so with his first son who was killed. The son that Rae is carrying in her womb will be carrying the traits and features of both Rae and Hughie, so it will Hughie's lineage that will survive. John's lineage died with Danny's death. This is something the director of the film wanted to convey, Hughie evolving into an alpha and John devolving into a beta male whose poor judgement made him lose his woman to another man and almost losing his own life aboard the Orpheus as it sank.
And let's face it, this whole thing was his fault. The sailing trip was his idea, him denying Rae her medication to help her cope with their son's death, and foolishly leaving his wife alone with a perfect stranger aboard their ship as he went alone to investigate the Orpheus. Do you agree?
I think it was on the back of his mind the moment he realized the Orpheus stopped running and the power went out, cutting his communication with Rae. It was at this point he knew that he would be unable to catch up to Rae and rescue her and instead had to be the one to be rescued by his wife. In essence, he became the beta male. Helpless and alone on a sinking ship, there is no doubt thoughts of his wife being with her captor entered his mind, maybe even engaging in a sexual relationship with him. Under the circumstances that he was in, it is in my opinion that he would have encouraged his wife to do what she had to do in order to rescue and bring him back aboard the Saracean. Now the question is, would he feel the same way if he discovered that it resulted in his wife becoming pregnant with another man's child? a child that would carry Hughie's lineage instead of John's? How would he react to such an outcome?
Those are such insightful articles regarding this aspect of female sexuality. This is what corresponds with Rae in the film. She loved her husband, but her love life was sorely lacking and her heart desired more. When she and John were seperated Hughie made his move to seduce Rae and was successful at it because she wanted this to happen. This was having sex for the thrill of it but also Rae had another need, the need to become a mother again. She needed the love and passion from a younger male suitor and Hughie was there at the right time to provide his seed. The consummation of their union resulting in the creation of a new child that replaces the one Rae lost in the accident. So Rae really wins in this scenario...having the most exciting sexual experience in her life and becoming pregnant with a new baby which she will raise alongside John, whom she never tells or reveals her extramarital affair to.
Rae did feel guilt afterwards, but she needed her animalistic desires to be met. Stuck in a troubled and crumbling marriage with John and grieving the loss of her son, she needed a new spark, a new direction, a new excitement in her life. The cruise she took with John was done to help her cope and start again with a new child. But all of that would change with the timely arrival of Hughie Warriner, the very man she would eventually turn to once she was separated from her husband.
Already burdened with task of saving her husband, she nonetheless had a very strong attraction to Hughie who had overpowered and overthrown John to become the rightful captain of the Saracean and de facto Alpha Male. He was about the same age as Rae, young, strong, well build and very masculine..traits that Rae admired and was looking for in a mating partner. Her desire to mate and have a baby with the Alpha Male outweighed her need to save John at that particular moment. It is at this point where it becomes a point of survival of the fittest, and the pairing of Rae and Hughie by natural order supersedes that of Rae and John as instituted by marriage.
Once Hughie successfully seduces and brings Rae to his side, the thoughts of her husband fade from her mind and she willfully welcomes him inside her. Even mouthing the words "Do it" giving her full consent. The moment he fully penetrates her the guilt, the shame and anguish melt away into waves of pleasure and passion. This is something Rae desperately needed for herself in order to able to not just satisfy her sexual craving but to move forward and grow as a woman.
After being sexually fulfilled, her needs met and accepting Hughie's sperm to impregnate her, Rae decides to leave Hughie in favor of John whom she wants to maintain her marriage with and be the provider for herself and her child. So yes she sowed her wild oats and then got it out of her system like the woman in the article. Her husband does not need to know.
The sex scene between Rae and Hughie is the most important and pivotal scene in the entire film. It was as much an act of passion as well as an act of survival. One must pass one's seed when in survival mode and since it came down to natural order, Hughie's sperm was selected over John's as the one to impregnate Rae with her new child. Once Rae succumbs to natural order and is seeded by Hughie, she gains the strength and courage to go against him and rescue her husband. She will, of course, keep her intimate and passionate coupling with Hughie to herself and not tell John she is carrying Hughie's baby. Rae wants John to be father but she will always know the truth of who really sired her child.