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“Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients”
“ Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.”
How many times do I have to repeat?
VENTILATORS SHOULD NOT BE USED ON PATIENTS WITH DAMAGED LUNGS!!
It has become apparent you deem yourself to be more knowledgable than the above physicians. Also, you discount the facts people died who were intubated with DAMAGED lungs.
I don’t dismiss ventilators as a medical aid…for the right circumstances. Those of us who have had surgery were intubated. Others who may go to the ER with breathing difficulties are usually sedated and intubated, but it definitely should be regulated so as not to cause damage.
I repeat:
<i>”Lung impairment, not getting enough oxygen, is different from lung damage which can lead to death when a ventilator is used.</i>
My dad died due to the ventilator which caused him to succumb to ARDS. Why do you think at that time we had to sign off on it?
<i>”COVID-19 patients, like those suffering from ARDS, have below-normal levels of oxygen in their blood, which leads to breathing problems. In ARDS cases, the lungs lose their elasticity. But in many cases of COVID-19, the lungs remain elastic and people are able to continue breathing for some time despite the low oxygen levels.”</i>
<b>”This "remarkable combination is almost never seen in severe ARDS," he writes, adding that patients with normal looking lungs but low oxygen are at risk of lung injury from the ventilators, where pressure from the air damages the thin air sacs that exchange oxygen with the blood.”</b>
“Ventilators are being overused on COVID-19 patients, world-renowned critical care specialist says”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ventilators-covid-overuse-1.5534097
The above was the reason of my dad’s demise.
You can choose to debate all you wish in regards to favoring mechanical ventilators. I prefer to listen to physicians who have changed their treatment procedures away from the mechanical breathers.
“Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients”
“ Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-are-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients-n1179986
FYI:
<b>”COVID-19: Respiratory care of the nonintubated hypoxemic adult (supplemental oxygen, noninvasive ventilation, and intubation)”</b>
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-respiratory-care-of-the-nonintubated-hypoxemic-adult-supplemental-oxygen-noninvasive-ventilation-and-intubation
I used speech marks to be somewhat synonymous to your use of chemical burns.
<i>”VILI can exacerbate pre-existing lung conditions or create new lung pathologies, leading to complications such as acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).”</i>
It’s difficult to write I had a hand in my dad’s death by agreeing to the use of a ventilator. He didn’t have ARDS when being admitted. He had difficulty in getting enough oxygen which is taxing to the heart.
<i>”Mechanical ventilators have been the most widely used mode of life support in management of patients who are unable to breathe naturally or breathe insufficiently. Non-invasive positive pressure ventilation (NPVV) has become an integral part of ventilator support in patients with acute or chronic respiratory failure. That being said, BiPAP is one of the most common non-invasive mechanical ventilation therapies used in acute respiratory failure caused by a wide spectrum of chronic illnesses, most commonly chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).”</i>
https://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-ventilator-and-bipap/
I was an assistant caregiver to a very dear lifetime friend (65 years) who had CHF. I checked her blood oxygen everyday. Her morning & evening caretakers would agree with me when she would at times have difficulty getting enough oxygen. A ventilator was not the treatment. A BIPAP connected to a concentrator was the treatment of choice. It helped her greatly for the last 6 months of life. Eventually the CHF took its toll. “Who does the bell toll for? It tolls for thee.”
<i>”Turns out yes, ventilators can be used to treat patients with COVID-19 who have severe lung impairment.</i>
Not so! People with damaged lungs died from being intubated and oxygen being forced into those damaged lungs.
“Lung impairment”, not getting enough oxygen, is different from lung damage which can lead to death when a ventilator is used.
<b>” Ventilator-Induced Lung Injury (VILI): An Overview (2024)”</b>
https://www.respiratorytherapyzone.com/ventilator-induced-lung-injury/
<i>” Ingesting disinfectants can cause chemical burns, damage internal organs, and lead to liver and kidney failure.”</i>
Descriptive of an already ill person who gets Covid leading to “inflamed” lungs along with damage to internal organs. Out comes the ventilators to shove down their throats!!
You missed my point so I will repeat:
<i>”Being a layperson and hearing disinfectants would kill the virus, was it wrong to ASK if there was a way to hit the Covid virus inside the body with a disinfectant? You seem to forget certain medical personnel (Lord Fauci for one) went stark raving mad over Covid and began grasping at straws on how to deal with it. During that time they did their best to scare us 💩less! No wonder Trump was asking questions about how to kill it.”</i>
At the time I wouldn’t fault anyone inquiring if disinfectants (bleach) could be injected into certain areas. Instead of treating it like a virus, it WAS treated as a WMD. Shutting down businesses (some never to reopen), ruining people’s lives, wearing useless masks which gave people a false positive of protection, demanding people be injected with a different type of poison, etc., etc. Helter-Skelter! The virus was going kill us all! Truth be told, most of those who succumbed were elderly or had other infirmities. If one was healthy that person survived. Let us not forget how many developed problems or died after the vax.
As I said I literally shoved disinfectant wipes up my nose, wiped my face & exposed body parts while we were cleaning the hard surfaces.
It’s so damn easy to play Monday morning quarterback…isn’t it?
For sure they cut back on the use of ventilators when patients began dying because of them. You don’t introduce a foreign object (intubate) into damaged lungs. An oxygen concentrator attached to a BIPAP machine would have been much better. They are used to assist people in receiving enough oxygen and also exhaling. The oxygen level is regulated for each patient.
My dad succumbed to ARDS in ‘94. Prior to his passing we had to consent to the use of a ventilator due to the possibility of a stroke as he was struggling to breathe. It was too late. I wish I knew then what I know now about ventilators. From the time my mom drove him to the ER and his passing was 3 weeks.
<i>”What's True
During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the government's coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, the then-president said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for injections.”</i>
<b>”What's False
However, at no point did Trump explicitly tell people they could or should inject bleach into their bodies.”</b>
Being a layperson and hearing disinfectants would kill the virus, was it wrong to ASK if there was a way to hit the Covid virus inside the body with a disinfectant? You seem to forget certain medical personnel (Lord Fauci for one) went stark raving mad over Covid and began grasping at straws on how to deal with it. During that time they did their best to scare us 💩less! No wonder Trump was asking questions about how to kill it.
I was exposed to Covid when a not so bright infected person coughed into my face! Hells Bells! I grabbed disinfectant wipes and wiped my face. I even shoved them up my nose! We didn’t know what we were dealing with at the time of the press conference. Biological warfare perhaps?
As time went on I wised up as so many others did including many on this board. The common denominator with us who did wise up and had a choice…we didn’t take the poisonous vax. I know for certain I would wipe my body with Clorox before I would take that needle!
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-inject-bleach-covid-19/
Even if there were enough stupid people who would inject themselves with bleach because they swallowed the lie, hook, line & sinker, the tally wouldn’t equate to how many the Democrats killed. Anyone recall the New York nursing home fiasco? Hmm?
I am totally against wealth envy. I wish all could be wealthy. If someone works hard and becomes wealthy or if that wealth passes on to the next generation I’m all for it. With that said, a line from the “Spiderman” movies comes to mind:
<i>”With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility”</i>
For a wealthy person to spend so foolishly is disgusting. It’s almost sinful…on second thought…it is sinful.
Oh please! That is my weakness & I want you to ask her for a list. If my deceased husband was aware he would have divorced me! I have a feeling your wife’s collection is far more expensive than mine. I at one time had over 10 Dooney-Bourke handbags. I unloaded some & recently purchased 2 more. But, I will not part with my Brahmin handbags. I have 12 and they will go with me to the wild blue yonder. They aren’t sold on home shopping & if ever on sale…I missed the sales. These 2 brands aren’t the only handbags I own. I own a slew of less expensive handbags. $200 & less. Some still have the tags on them after 4 years of purchase!
Don’t get me started on my shoes!
Lucky her! 👏🏻👏🏻 $2500 to $3000 or more! Have you priced the handbags? Whew!
Just a bit of history about THE BURBERRY TRENCH COAT:
<i>As the war imploded, the Burberry trench coat adapted. Each detail of the coat had significance for military use, from its belted waist and flared skirt allowing for warmth without excessive length — which would trail on mud.”</i>
<i>” The trench coat became an optional item of dress in the British Army, and was obtained by private purchase by officers and Warrant Officers Class I who were under no obligation to own them.[7] No other ranks were permitted to wear them. The unlucky soldiers in the trenches had to wear regular military issue garb.</i>
<i>”In 1914, Burberry was commissioned by the British War Office to redesign and adapt the coat to the required specifications for World War I, resulting in the new “trench coat”. Some of the added features were the shoulder straps for military epaulets and ‘D’ metal rings on the waist for tools like grenades and water canisters.“</i>
The coat became very popular in movies such as worn by Humphrey Bogart in “Casablanca” which led it to become an upscale fashion trend.
The Burberry trench coat is acceptable for all manners of dress…even EVENING GOWNS! The Burberry is a status symbol.
I’ll admit that was a new one for me. OMGosh, just a gorgeous place. It must be nice to have the funds to travel as you do…and for a WHOLE MONTH!!
Off the rails a bit as you’re the only Brit, who I know is a Brit. Do you own, what has been a dream of mine for years, a BURBERRY trench coat with the signature plaid? The coat has an interesting history. Thomas Burberry was only 21 when he opened his business.
<i>” Like European fashion icons Louis Vuitton and Hermès, Burberry has history. It was founded by Thomas Burberry in 1856, who was passionate about the idea that clothing needed to be designed to withstand Britain's weather. His answer to this was to invent gabardine — which, as a fabric, is breathable, waterproof, and long-lasting. But Burberry made fashion history by using gabardine to make its iconic trench coat, which was invented during the First World War between 1914 and 1918, and was designed to carry military equipment. By 1955, Burberry's weather gear, which featured what Gentleman's Gazette calls the brand's iconic Novacek tartan pattern, was granted a royal certification by Britain's Queen Elizabeth II for making weatherproof jackets (via Burberry).”</i>
Read More: https://www.thelist.com/198011/why-is-burberry-clothing-so-expensive/
Beautiful!👏🏻👏🏻 BTW, where do you go for the whole month? Also, do you have a broad in every port?🤭
Horrible! Just Horrible! Why he hasn’t fired the bitch is beyond me! I have a feeling this case involving a child, Taylor Cadle, being raped for years isn’t going away. A new light is being shed on this case so I believe Melissa Turnage will be making a departure. I, myself will be calling and demanding this useless being not worthy of wearing a detective’s badge be terminated sooner if not later! 🤬
I’m not aware of that case. I will take the time to read about it then hopefully I’ll can give you an answer. I’m considered a fairly new resident having lived in Lakeland just over a year. If I had known about traveling the “demon” road, I-4, I would never have moved here. 😡🤬
I wish no harm to the pitiful man, and will not mock him for urinary incontinence or fecal incontinence. Until you’ve been there it’s easy to do so. What I will do is shame those who pushed someone with borderline dementia into the highest office in the U.S. Included among those puppeteers are is wife Jill & his crook of a son Hunter.
As a bit of levity, when I see your post ID, why do I think of the Minion when he was crowned “King Bob”? I enjoy watching those imps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK2XzKDab0E
I do & before you ask your question…I LOVE SHERIFF GRADY JUDD!!