Any chance that SPOILER


Ilsa survived?

She was a fan favorite. They already chose NOT to kill Luther and Benji for that exact reason. Instead, they wanted to kill Brandt at the start of "Fallout," but Renner was still doing "Endgame" reshoots and didn't want to come back to "Mission" just to be killed off.

And Luther was quick to correct Grace:

"She's dead because of me"

"No, you're alive because of her"

Sure he was just being Luther (i.e., a good guy who sees the big picture), but still ...


That said, I'm pretty sure there's no way to bring her back without it seeming cheap. To this day, I'm still very undecided about whether they should've brought Spock back after "Star Trek II." Ilsa's death raises the stakes, and is consistent with the (now retracted) notion that these two films would be the final "Mission: Impossible" films starring Cruise.

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Like you say, no chance without it coming across cheap and unrealistic. They already pretended she died once in the film and it seems like they are setting up for Gabriel's sidekick to survive his stabbing as it is. Ilsa's death gives Hunt extra motivation to want to bring Gabriel down. It just makes too much sense for her to die.

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Go to Part 2's IMDB page. You'll see a certain name in the cast. And I have a separate comment. Check out that to read my further thoughts on stuff. I don't really want to copy/paste when someone can scroll down a little and see my separate comment.

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Could just be a flashback.

I almost want her to die for the sake of realism. The odds are when these characters keep getting put in dangerous, life threatening situations, they can't keep surviving.

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I knew someone would use the flashback response, but I think there is something more going on. Something seemed off when she showed up at the bridge. Plus it's Mission Impossible. Characters fake their death all the time.

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I hesitate to say “no chance without it being cheap” these days with CERTAIN filmmakers

James Gunn continues to surprise me by making seemingly unworkable concepts into satisfying entertainment (“a talking raccoon and his buddy, the tree? Gimme a BREAK!” - and a few years later I’m literally shedding tears for the raccoon and tree)

McQ & Cruise, as a team, often do the same. They clearly care a great deal about delivering the best story possible.

This video discusses the possibility, though honestly some of the video’s comments are more thought-provoking:

https://youtu.be/7RbsEwDnDBE

Bottom line, though, the “Mission: Impossible” filmmakers are a team that values its members, especially its actors. Ferguson’ s obviously been admitted into that inner circle, as is obvious from their press interviews.

Of course, that in no way guarantees Ilsa’s survival — Cavill was also welcomed wholeheartedly into the team. But I can’t believe they’d have such a brief death scene and so little mourning for such a major character and real-life team-member.

Like the video blogger above, I’d expect something more along the lines of Julia’s phony death in “M:I 3.”

Ironic side-note: the teamwork thing worked AGAINST Sean Harris. He only agreed to “Rogue Nation” on the condition that Lane die, leaving no room for Paramount to “own” Harris contractually. But Cruise, McQ and the team liked working with him so much that they arranged for Lane to live.

McQ tells the story in a podcast about visiting Harris in his trailer. His expression alone told Harris what was up, and Harris’s first words were, “You fakkahs!”

That’s why I love the scene where they gas Lane, who glares and rages at Hunt. I like to imagine that we’re actually seeing Harris raging at Cruise, his executive producer, for trapping him in Paramount’s clutches.


Oh and I agree that the IMDB cast for “part two” means nothing. Ferguson could be there as a smokescreen, or because IMDB doesn’t know any better, or because of SAG/AFTRA rules (adopted after Lester screwed the cast over by breaking “The Three Musketeers” into two movies)

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If you go the IMDB page for Part 2, look who is in the cast. That COULD be a cover-up to hide spoilers for Part 1, but I remember what happened when I got home from seeing Batman V Superman on opening day. When I got home from seeing Batman V Superman, I went to the IMDB page for Justice League. Superman died/dies at the end of BvS, but the cast for Justice League had Henry Cavill in it. So IMDB spoiled Justice League, although they could've been hiding spoilers for BvS. And what actually does happen in Justice League? Superman comes back from the dead. So, maybe the same thing is happening for Mission Impossible.

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She's gone for good to push the plot forward with Grace as the replacement. Out with the old, in with the new.

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yes, there is chance cause they had to fool the entity and be one step a head , lol. But how quickly they replaced her with a new girl felt a bit rushed

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I'll be seeing this soon so I haven't seen it play out yet, but misdirection is what this franchise is all about. And being a two parter is seems a distinct possibility.

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Since they already made the audience think she died once (only to find out she lived), it would be 100% stupid and bush league (and just plain cheap and unimaginative) if they were to just do it again.



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Dis is the rubber mask movies...

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