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Why exactly is this a masterpiece?


“Hamilton” is the exuberantly-performed, exciting, race-challenging hip-hop musical sensation from Lin-Manuel Miranda that we’ve all been hearing about and dying to see. It’s also confusing as hell.

Miranda is Alexander Hamilton, the impoverished foreigner who comes to America, meets eventual rival Aaron Burr (Leslie Odom Jr.), fights alongside Washington (Christopher Jackson) in the American Revolution, and builds the constitution and our financial system while clashing with Virginian, Thomas Jefferson (Daveed Diggs).

The conceit here is that all of these founding fathers are portrayed by black and hispanic actors, which has been done deliberately since the rapping would just look foolish otherwise. Even as is, the music is very much exposition-heavy, hard to even follow without subtitles, and even then it’s a vague view, predicated on rap battles, of the history it’s trying to teach.

Not nearly as bad as what it does to the ideologies of the characters, however. Hamilton is being portrayed as an abolitionist, pro-immigration, and a man who believed in freeing people from political bondage. In actuality, he participated in the trafficking of slaves for his in-laws, would later argue that immigrants don’t have the same love of liberty that “nationalists” do, and was an elitist and monarchist who believed the higher class should still have ruling power over the lower class.

Additionally, black actors playing roles of the Founding Fathers comes off as particularly confusing as the Fathers are still rooted in a discriminatory history that now makes it seem like black people are just screwing themselves. Oddly, slaves or actual black abolitionists never make it into the narrative, which is particularly aggravating in regard to the wealthy slave-trading family Hamilton marries into, The Schuylers. Miranda never tells us what the "family business" is and makes Hamilton and Eliza Schuyler (Phillipa Too) seem like the Obamas, their meet-cute at a ball meant to distract from the horrific shit, probably, happening right outside that plantation. If this racism-downplay isn’t on a level of “Gone with the Wind”, I don't know what is.

But this is really “Hamilton”. Miranda can make easy villains out of Jefferson and Burr, their misdeeds have been well-documented. But for Hamilton and others this is all rose-colored glasses for fear nuance may turn audiences of today off. What’s weirder about this whole thing is more people are willing to tout this show’s hipness than really delve into its race-bending vision of history, much less its hypocrisy. In a time when false idols are being torn down left and right, i’m not terribly sure if “Hamilton” isn’t doing the exact opposite.


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The Founding Fathers were men of the "enlightenment" and did generally believe in freeing people from political bondage. The irony, of course, has always been that not all of them agreed on which people were entitled to be truly free. White men, certainly. Women? Well, kinda. Native Americans? Not so much. Black men? We'll leave that up to the states. That the 18th Century revolutionary "awakening" is now being portrayed by people of color is in many ways revolutionary, itself, and makes the irony that much clearer. There are moments in the show that you'd swear were written 3 weeks ago, not 5 or 6 years ago, or 244 years ago.

By the way, needing subtitles while watching musicals is not a new thing. Operas are often incomprehensible even if you speak the language of the piece without the stage gizmo that shows the lyrics. In the 1880's and 90's audiences were given booklets with lyrics at Gilbert and Sullivan shows, the better to understand and appreciate the clever writing. This is the case with Hamilton, as well. The creativity is even more impressive when you can actually follow the words.

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Thanks. I just watched it and loved it. I am not American so most of the history flew over my head.

I was super impressed with the music and choreography here. Excellent show.

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At the time of US forming natives werent part of the nation, more like threat to its existence. Of course they werent going to give them much rights.

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I don't understand why Hamilton is black. He wasn't black. And if black people can play white people then why can't white people play black people? Very confusing. I'm sure there is a reason that will make no sense unless you are an insane liberal.

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I am probably an insane liberal, but to explain it on another level:

For the same reason Hamilton was portrayed as a singing, rapping, dancing person of Puerto Rican descent: It's Lin-Manuel Miranda's show.

You're free to do your own show however your like.

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I am? You mean if I made a musical about Frederick Douglass and made him a guy whiter than Larry Bird, BLM wouldn't be burning down the theater?

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It isn't.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Not really

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It's not a masterpiece. It's an over-hyped, ridiculous, black-washed form of revisionist history done by a guy who was going on an ego trip. I noticed that when it was only available on broadway, the snooty rich assholes from the coasts [many of whom are left-leaning] loved it, whereas the moment it got on streaming, people saw it for the ridiculous mess it was and gave it the reviews it deserved.

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Exactly.

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It's no "Fiddler On the Roof". Hell, it's not even "1776"!

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I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, I liked it and I'd call it a very good rather than great.

The reason it's been a bit overpraised is that it captured the zeitgeist in a way that no Broadway show has for a long time, and worked the popular music of the day into musical theater, also in a way that hadn't been done for a long time either (probably since "Hair"). Like it or not hip-hop is the big musical trend of the day, and Miranda was the first to use it in a popular Broadway musical. And he worked it into the kind of solid, well-chorographed musical that the old white Broadway audience liked, and did it so well he made them feel cool for liking the result!

Make old white people feel cool, and you will be heaped with critical praise. Because the critics are also old and white.

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This was nicely-worded and I agree with it.

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Broadway and Hollywood are exactly the same - no one makes money if a show fails. So everyone says every show is great. Critics don't get free tickets to the next show.

Only a select few critics can say a show sucks.

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"The reason it's been a bit overpraised is that it captured the zeitgeist in a way that no Broadway show has for a long time, and worked the popular music of the day into musical theater, also in a way that hadn't been done for a long time either (probably since "Hair")."

Exactly so. They key word is zeitgeist.

I didn't mind HAMILTON, but it didn't strike me as overly amazing (I feel much the same about much of what Andrew Lloyd Weber does tbh). It's a well-done show with some good tunes.

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I haven't heard a tune from this show I'd want to hear again.

My daughter was into it for a little while and I'd hear the songs in and out.

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Agreed

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Frankly the song in this show fucking suck. Little Shops of Horror had better music. Im mean the Cabinet has fucking Rap Battle. Is this a Story about the Founding Fathers or is this Eminem's 8 mile.

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