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"Why do ALL the Star Wars baddies have to be white males?"


What are these people saying now?

Are they happy that we now have a female, women of color as the villain? I guess they must be, right, as that was the kind of diversity they demanded...

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Social justice became a big thing a long time ago in this galaxy far, far away, way before we committed to it

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Which Sith Lord was the SJW?

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Palpatine and Vader obviously because of the Moses Ingram character. We don't know enough about Dooku and Maul to accuse them of being racist

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The Evil Empire in the original trilogy represented Nazi Germany! There are many similarities including uniforms, names (Stormtroopers), exclusively white humanoid male military and leadership, fascism.

The prequel is how a democracy becomes a tyranny. The sequel trilogy repeats the Nazi Germany theme.

Notice how the Rebel Alliance is diverse representing democracy and freedom.

The racist manbabies have zero comprehension of Star Wars and its message. They're on the side of the Evil Empire and tyranny.

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I heard that. I think in Germany in the 30s, Hitler was granted emergency powers, similar to what Palpatine achieved in the prequels.

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The "emergency powers" = dictatorship.

The leader creates an emergency and then states he needs to be granted emergency powers.

Also, corrupt politicians are elected who weaken democracy from within like Palpatine. You can find real life examples in Russia, Hungary and Turkey. The public support populist leaders.
"This is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Padme Amidala

They need to teach how democracies morph into dictatorships in school.

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Sounds like Covid was a great excuse for these kinds of powers. See the prime minister in Canada

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Canada is a strong democracy. U.S. is a failed democracy and continuing to hurl towards autocracy and oligarchy.

It's the role of government to protect its citizens from disease and gun violence by containing it. A free-for-all anarchy doesn't work.

Canada is the country where Americans have repeatedly fled to throughout history. Black slaves fled to Canada for freedom. Vietnam draftees fled to Canada for safety. Women fled to Canada for abortions.

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If the role of govt is to protect its citizens, then why would we have a major political party in America that openly supports open borders while also guaranteeing them all free healthcare?

And you can make all the gun laws you want. It will only create a larger black market. Someone who is sick enough to shoot up a supermarket or school, will just go to the black market for a gun

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You're watching too much Fox. Right-wing media knows their viewers are xenophobic which is the reason they run border stories so much. They use fear, hate and anger to manipulate and exploit viewers. Their research has shown that it increases viewership and raises money for candidates.

Numerous studies have already proven that stricter gun laws reduce gun deaths which is the reason all other countries use them with success. Again, don't buy into the rhetoric paid for by gun manufacturers who don't care if your kid is shot dead in school. They only care about profit. No 18-year-old needs an assault rifle and 1,000 rounds of ammo.

The U..S. government used to protect citizens better, but laws were changed allowing rich people more control over our media and legislators to favor profit over everyone else. That started in the 70s.

Notice how rightwing media and politicians believe "thoughts and prayers" are enough to address guns, but not enough to address the border? It's all self-serving BS.

Leftwing media and politicians manipulate too, but use different tactics and are not as good at strategizing.

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Are you denying the fact that since Biden has been in office, 2 million undocumented people have entered the US. That isn't including the ones who snuck in undetected. Are you saying this is a false claim?

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Fat Donnie built a wall and had Mexico pay for it like he campaign promised, therefore Fox is lying to you.

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Biden stopped construction of the border wall

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Can't stop what was never started. Fatso Donnie failed you.

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And Biden so far has helped America and its economy?

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After Fat Donnie left the country with a collapsed economy with record unemployment, record bankruptcies, record food lines, the threat of record evictions, foreclosures and student debt defaults, record store supply problems, Biden came in and helped America combat Covid, stopped bankruptcies, reopened old businesses and launched new ones, record employment recovery, saved people's homes, higher wages, and a hyper-charged GDP growth of 33.8% which selttled to a still impressive 6.9%!!!!!

So yes, Biden has helped America and its economy!!!!

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You are a brainwashed fool

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You can't contradict anything I wrote.

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Record inflation, more Covid deaths under Bidens watch than Trumps, despite Biden having a vaccine available since hes been in office, record illegal immigration, ridiculous energy prices and its only getting worse, since he has shut down pipelines in America. Not to mention, Biden gave the Taliban a state of the art new air force along with millions of dollars in our defense weapons with the embarrassing Afghanistan pull out. Plus Biden is bought and paid for by China. See Hunters laptop.

The entire agenda of the democrat party is to weaken America. And they depend on brainwashing fools like yourself to push their agenda

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A vaccine and proper mask-wearing that MAGAts won't do because of their blind loyalty to their Orange God and supposed free-dumbs.

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You're watching too much Fox. Your diatribe is nonsense.

There wouldn't have been a pandemic if Fat Donnie hadn't removed the American doctors from China whose only job was to prevent pandemics and followed the pandemic guidelines left by TWO presidents. He did nothing and allowed the pandemic to spread.

Fat Donnie invited the Taliban to lunch at Camp David in order to surrender to them.

Where's the wall that Fat Donnie built? Yet another failure of his!

I'm sure you ran to cash the stimulus check that you received from Biden.

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"Numerous studies have already proven that stricter gun laws reduce gun deaths which is the reason all other countries use them with success. "

Not really. The real reason is how US treats people with mental illness and the USA mentality when it comes to violence and crime.

US overall crime rate is A LOT higher than other countries and not because we have guns but because USA has a fucked up mentality.

Take a Brazil, Mexico and see how they compare to USA: stricter gun laws and higher gun death rates.

SO you're quite wrong.

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You're comparing the U.S., a world power, to Mexico and Brazil instead of another Westernized wealthy country like the U.K., Canada or Germany.
You don't think much of the U.S.!

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US is mix of 3rd world and developed countries.

You have the ghetto culture, you have the hillbillies, you have the rednecks, you have the sea of the homeless and you have Beverly Hills, you have Manhattan, you have the latino immigrants who, surprise, are coming from the countries that YOU don't think too much of.

So yeah, I don't think too much of a large part of the US.

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You can always leave.

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Even if it's a third world country in some aspects I like some other aspects just fine.

You can always leave as well if you don't like it. And apparently you are the one bitching about gun violence and other things, not me ...

Move to Canada since you love it so much :P

And if you don't live in the USA stop bitching about it and fuck off.

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"So yeah, I don't think too much of a large part of the US"

Let the door hit you on the way out!

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I told you, YOU Are the one complaining. Even if I don't think too much of USA I don't complain.

So you are the one that should head out of here.

Bye.

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"So yeah, I don't think too much of a large part of the US"

Your complaint shows you do complain. You should leave.

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Are you fucking dumb? Retard? Idiot? A moron?

That's NOT complaining. That's acceptance of a shitty situation/location.

You keep complaining so you should leave :P

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"So yeah, I don't think too much of a large part of the US"

Let the door hit you on the way out!

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Damn, you're more and more stupid with each reply :D :D :D

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You're still here?

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I guess not. They just didn't want to see them in any major capacity in the first place.

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White supremacist reactionary types have no qualms about being brazen hypocrites who say one thing on Monday only to contradict themselves on Tuesday to fit whatever racist argument they're making at the time. Nothing new there

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darth vader was black
darth maul was half black

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Oh, it's not about the color. Moses is a horrible actress.
Having said that Friend's character also sucks. It's too over the top "Look everyone, I'm evil".
Even Indira Varma's not at her best here and she is a goddess I'd sacrifice virgins to.

It's almost like working for Kennedy makes everything shit.

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She's going to do a Heel-Face turn and become the big hero soon.

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If she hadn't replaced a much better (designed) character in the Inquisitor, and if she wasn't such a crap actress, she'd have gotten a better response.

Also, Hollywood in Current Year are so predictable - there's little to no chance she's going to be a villain by the end of the season. As a black woman, she's a hero in waiting.

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Is she tho? Saw only 2 episodes so far. By the faces she makes I have a feeling that they are planning to do a "villain turned to hero" road for her.

Like eventually she will understand that she was good inside all along and will go to the good side or something. Woketards would not dare to make a black person a villain. Its against their religion that all blacks are saint unicors and only whites are bad. )))

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Like eventually she will understand that she was good inside all along and will go to the good side or something.

Quite possibly. Isn't she supposed to be one of the Jedi kids in the flashback at the beginning?

Maybe she's deep uncover and waiting for the chance to kill Darth when she gets close enough...

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Like eventually she will understand that she was good inside all along and will go to the good side or something. Woketards would not dare to make a black person a villain. Its against their religion that all blacks are saint unicors and only whites are bad. )))


The Mandalorian: Main character is a villain going through a heroic redemption arc. = White male
Kylo Ren: Most high profile recent example. Main villain turns to light side & is redeemed = White male
Boba Fett: Fan favorite ruthless villain gets a show, is turned into a "noble" anti hero = 1/2 white male
Merrin: Villainous dark jedi/witch, tries to the kill protagonist, redeemed to side of good = white female

I could list more examples but the point is made. This seems to be an ongoing theme for the Di$ney Wars era in general & so far mostly involving white characters & zero black characters but yeah.... it's definitely just Wokey Woke *insert more alt reich catchphrases* sh*t if this one black character happens to continue the villain redemption arc trend. Exactly the kind of brazen hypocrisy that the OP is talking about from the stormfront reactionary crowd.

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Since when Bobba Fett actor is white? Wiki tells me he is Maori from New Zealand. He is what woketards call "person of color".

Do I have to remind you that Mandalorian actor is from Chile (South America) and by all woke standards he is also "oppressed person of color"

What kind of wokie are you if you dont see that? ))))

Star Wars have general problem in creating villains who then get redeemed. See Darth Vader also. Apart from that caricature Palpatin - were there villains who were not redeemed? Thats why its so boring and predictable with this character. You can see it miles away.

When Kenobi season will end - you will see how that black chick will be coming to good side. Just look at the faces she makes! Those sad eyes. It will probably be revealed that she works undercover or something.


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Like I said, the very WHITE Adam Driver/Kylo Ren is the most prominent example of the Di$ney Wars era of a villain who gets a redemption arc. The Mandalorian lead actor is of white South American decent. Lots of them exist. The Boba Fett actor is mixed race with Scottish/Irish ancestry. The Merrin actress is of white Russian ancestry. So much "wokeness" there...

So again, it's weird that you concede the fact that this is just an ongoing theme in general for Star Wars but in the next breath insist that it must be because of Di$ney's "Wokey, woke woke!" reasons, only because Reva is black, if she gets a redemption arc as well. No, if it happens it will just be an ongoing repetitive theme.

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"Star Wars have general problem in creating villains who then get redeemed. See Darth Vader also. Apart from that caricature Palpatin - were there villains who were not redeemed?"\

Honestly, I've never understood why people say Vader redeemed himself. The man spent 20 years bringing the galaxy to it's knees, offered brutal death to millions, and exploded planets, yet because at the last minute he decided not to murder his child(after years of trying to do it) he's suddenly good again??? Tell that to those Younglings or anyone on Alderan.

I feel like Star Wars fans has a weirdly low bar for redemption.

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