Diversity: Blacks will be given a prominent role in this movie.
They won't be the help. Strong black female character. Woke diversity bullshlt.
shareThey won't be the help. Strong black female character. Woke diversity bullshlt.
shareSo don't watch it.
I won't. It's woke diversity bullshlt.
shareSo glad you think that a strong black woman is bullshit!
sharePutting a strong black woman who's not a servant or entertainer in a story about 1930s European socialites IS bullshit. It's bullshit because it's a political maneuver that's not based in reality and is anachronistic. It also is not true to Christie's book.
That said, I'll still watch it.
Well said!
Blacks being given prominent roles in a movie set in Africa. Shocking! Scandalous! Unthinkable!
Yes, I'm being sarcastic.
They're cleaners.
shareDid you even read the book? None of the characters are actually FROM Africa.
Well, given that in entire history of Egypt the only blacks they had were the ones they brough back from foreign lands as slaves, yes, it is shocking.
sharePosters screaming about "woke" in discussing this film are engaging in what's known as social contagion: https://moviechat.org/tt0993840/Army-of-the-Dead/60abe3cd7a3b651435c20bd7/Posters-screaming-about-woke-in-discussing-this-film-are-engaging-in-whats-known-as-social-contagion
Remember to post a link to that thread to ANY movie or TV forum where an idiot poster screams about "wokeness."
Blind casting is fine with me. But I can’t stand when they cast an American as a Brit and the actor cannot get the accent right. (Too bad they didn’t cast a Brit BIPOC actress instead of Annette Benning.)
share"Blind casting is fine with me. But I can’t stand when they cast an American as a Brit and the actor cannot get the accent right. "
I know what you mean. It was usually painful and sometimes laughable listening to Brit Charlie Hunnam stumble his way trying to fake an American accent on Sons of Anarchy. The limey within was evident in every episode.
Posters like you are known as trolls...
shareBut you're OK with white supremacists. Hmmm...
shareBut you're OK with being the resident troll with dozens of sock puppet accounts. Hmmm...
shareRidiculous Accusations are all you people have.
share"You people"??? Dang, you're racist!
shareI'm surprised you didn't accuse me of also being a commie.
shareDo you want me to call you a commie? Does that turn you on???
shareOnly Commies are obsessed with "white supremacists".
shareRidiculous Accusations are all you people have.
And all you people have is constantly calling any and everyone racists.
shareWhite supremacists are preferable to trolls. At least it is clear where they stand.
shareHaven't read the book, but did read the summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_on_the_Nile
Set in Abu Simbel, S Egypt. There would be Nubians, who are mixed Arab-Sudanese. So who is the black character?
I've read the book, as far as I recall the only characters described as Nubians are the captain of the boat and the crew. In this movie the Angela Lansbury character from the 1978 adaptation and her daughter are now black. Completely far-fetched. I just don't get why they didn't set these movies in the present. At least it would've offered a different spin and the ethnic diversity wouldn't be unrealistic.
shareIt's hilarious that this is so confusing for you. They are entertainers. Do you think that white people didn't pay black people to sing for them in the 1930s? You're not upset because people are changing characters or the story around. You're upset because people want to show more diversity in movies and television. You think there's an "agenda" when the real agenda has been trying to keep storylines out that show poor people as morally good and talented, black people as hardworking and law-abiding, gay people as someone who is just like any other neighbor or trans people who are just living their lives and not trying to groom children or force being trans on others. You want for people to have the same fears that your pathetic, spineless self has. Luckily, more and more people are telling folks like you to stuff it.
shareLol, what kind of dumbass troll are you???
One, in the novel these characters were NOT entertainers. This had to be changed to allow black characters to travel on a luxury cruise with a bunch of white people, which in itself is a completely unrealistic depiction of that era. Or did people only become racist in the last couple of years???😂
Two, you typically need to make up lies to make your non-existent point. I never implied I'm against more diversity in movies, I even said they could've set it in the present to allow more diversity. You've been pwned.
Now bugger off, D-feet, and go bother one of your dozens of other sock puppet accounts.🙄
My gosh, it's just a freaking movie geez!!! Most films are not historically accurate or follow the novels 100%.
You should ask yourself why it bothers you so much that the black women in this film were NOT portrayed as servants?? Geez. Get a grip. It's not that serious. And actually, Europe was a little more open and welcoming of some black people in earlier years more than the US. That's precisely why a lot of African Americans traveled to and preferred Europe to the United States because they were actually sometimes treated better over in Europe than in the US.
But I digress...
My oh my, golly gosh and bejeezus! That was quite a rant by you, talk about needing to get a grip...
Anyway, nice to meet another one of your sock puppets!😆
People like OP don't want to see minorities on *their* movies
shareYou're an idiot. And a racist.
We want to see minorities in the movies, but we don't want to see minorities in roles in which they shouldn't be (due to historical, social, bla bla, reasons).
Want to have strong black women in movies? Do it right, a la Black Panther which is filled with strong black women and people didn't really had issues with their color.
Get the idea: yes, don't change MY stories to include YOUR characters, write your own fucking stories and include whatever characters you like.
Plain and simple.
The role of Salome is not unrealistic for the time period. Sorry to ruin your racist, hate-spewing party.
shareAnd WHERE did I say anything about her role in the movie?????
Can you quote me, not some other individual, saying anything about her role?
If you want to see a racist look in the mirror.
I just like to see things as close to the reality of the era as possible, even if that makes your racist head explode. And the truth is: in that era racism was everywhere, a fact that doesn't really transpire from the movie.
The idiot leftists: we have to ban "Gone with the wind" and "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" because some of the whites were too gentle with the black slaves/population and the slaves showed affection for the whites, the horror.
Also the idiot leftists make movies in which black people are treated with exaggerated respect and kindness for the period. Or even movies with black nobles that are treated with respect in an era in which something like that would be impossible ...
I don't think it's a big deal if they swap out a few support roles for diverse actors. I'm a fan of the long-running tv show and the books. I'd be mad if they changed the race/gender of the recurring main characters like HERCULE EFFING POIROT, Inspector Japp and Captain Hastings.
I remember Lucy Liu played a female Watson in a modern version of Sherlock Holmes called Elementary. I have zero plans to watch this since I have the David Suchet Poirot series on blu-ray.
Is Inspector Japp Chinese?
shareI know he is a British police inspector and I always assumed he was white. Japp is a German/Dutch surname that is a shortened form of Jacoby. The only description of him was that he was ferret-faced but another inspector from the Sherlock Holmes stories was also described as ferret-face. I'm not familiar with the term ferret face and I will never use it.
https://agathachristie.fandom.com/wiki/James_Japp
I'm not familiar with the term ferret face and I will never use it.
I remember Lucy Liu played a female Watson in a modern version of Sherlock Holmes called Elementary. I have zero plans to watch this since I have the David Suchet Poirot series on blu-ray.
It sounds like they forgot what a mystery show is supposed to be about. The viewer shouldn't be able to solve the mystery right away. It reminds me of how Guy Ritchie turned Sherlock Holmes movies into adventure movies. Ritchie broke down the whole investigative process into a flurry of jump cuts.
shareI actually liked Guy Ritchie's one. But I consider it as a buddy comedy, like Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill playing a Holmes movie. Have fun and forget, and Zimmer's music is absolutely brilliant, probably my favorite OST from this composer.
There's a Japanese TV 10 episodes series called 'Sherlock', with a tone similar to the modern BBC one but using female main characters (without woke politics). It's interesting, worth a watch, but it's far from brilliant.
Sherlock Holmes is the fifth most popular character in literary history, and the most popular from the 19th century. He’s shown remarkable staying power. NO ONE reads or watches a Sherlock story to learn “whodunnit.” We follow Sherlock for his mind. Fucking PERIOD. No one gives a shit who did it. Stick with your dullard Politics and leave art to the educated.
Oh, not for nothing, Dr. Jane Watson was not a detective, nor even really a doctor, in the first season of Elementary, which, not for nothing, was clearly written by folks who’d read Conan Doyle and were not internet trolls. She had been hired by Holmes’ wealthy father to accompany Holmes as his Sober Companion to prevent him from relapsing into drug abuse. I guess this point fell off your “woke agenda” rant. Substance abuse is an epidemic. It’s real. It takes courage to acknowledge and address it. I strongly dislike CBS “procedural” shows. They are usually plodding and dull; but The Tiffany Network has produced 2 that have defied all of the stereotypes, Elementary and Evil, and they have soared. A shame that Elementary did not have the same opportunity to move the Paramount+ that has so benefited Evil.
Guy Ritchy’s take on Holmes is a flat-out insult to the author, the character and to educated people.
Wow, you must be a genius to have figured out the plot of a movie based on a famous book that has been read by millions and already portrayed numerous times in film. It was the white guy! Isn't that crazy? I mean, you never see a person with the killer's relationship to the deceased actually be the murderer. That never happens.
shareYep, a crap show that does NOT do justice to the original characters and stories, unlike the Jeremy Brett series.
shareahhh the racist has shown up
shareWhy not just get it over with and make Poirot black.
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