No Audra or Tom in this
At least, not where Audra follows Bill to Derry and gets kidnapped by Pennywise, and Tom doesn't also follow Beverly to Derry to take her back. They appear at the start of the movie, but that's it for them.
The filmmakers trimmed a lot of the fat from the book, and thankfully Tom and Audra were part of that culling.
shareThe script editors for the IT Miniseries should've done that for Audra. My GOD, that miniseries is a real pile of crap now, all of it.
Come on now. At least the first half of the miniseries is good.
shareIf IT (2017) represents the first half of the miniseries, then that alone blows it out of the water. The so-called fight with Pennywise vs the kids in the miniseries was a joke, it was so pathetic. In the movie, both sides are launching sustained attacks on each other, it was much more of a fight than the miniseries.
No, dude.
The kids defeating IT in the miniseries was handled better than the film, despite the vastly lower budget.
The miniseries didn’t reduce Beverly to a damsel-in-distress or turn the defeat of Pennywise into a one-sided curb-stomp.
The problem with the miniseries fight with the kids is that it's so short, and Pennywise is defeated easily by being sprayed with an inhaler with the imagined power of death, and having his head burst open with one of Bev's pieces of silver. Not one of the Losers is really hurt, except for Stanley, and that's psychologically. And then Pennywise flees in the worst special effect I've ever seen!
Was the movie battle really one-sided? Pennywise was a lot more physical against the Losers, and did a lot more damage to them, a lot of it psychological, but physical, too.
It's interesting how different people's POV can be on this sort of thing.
Stop motion Pennywise disappearing down the drain was one of my favorite images in the miniseries, and a creative visual moment I'll remember forever. Every time I see it it fills my heart with joy and inspiration. I've slowed the shot down and looked at it frame by frame. I've sought out whatever behind the scenes material I could possibly set my peepers on. It's just beautiful in all its surreal, kitchy, absurd, cartoon horror charm. Interestingly, it's about as unconvincing from a modeling standpoint as most of the cgi in Chapter 2, yet that it has real physicality creates more psychological dissonance and makes it creepier and more surreal, and I think thereby more effective.
One of the things stop motion naturally tends to be is creepy, and it's too bad it's all but off the table as a serious option for effects in horror films now. Imagine Chapter 2 but with all the cgi substituted for stop-mo a la Evil Dead 2. Handled with our very sophisticated modern methods for stop motion, and by artists with a keen sensibility for the medium's potential to be uncanny and creepy, IMO this project could have been a great opportunity to instigate a practical effects renaissance that the horror genre is in desperate need of.
I'm noticing more and more people picking up on the ineffectiveness of cg imagery in horror films, and it seems to be a very prevalent conversation with this movie in particular.
The "disappearing down the drain" thing was bloody awful, and so in fact was the very brief fight before it. I'm in my 40s and am old enough to have seen movies with stop-motion, and to be honest, even back then, I thought they looked crap, but there was no alternative. Who cares if it's "not physically there", they usually have something physical there anyway, and CGI looks smoother, more detailed and can achieve anything. I fail to see why people are so hungover on fucking stop-motion.
In any case, Muschietti is a practical effects proponent, he used a lot in the first movie, but obviously, a giant clown spider is going to be very difficult to pull off. He used as many practical effects as he could, otherwise.
I didn't mind the kids fight in the miniseries, but I admit the movie handled it better especially with the deadlights. As mediocre as the kids fight was, it was better than the adults fight in the miniseries.
I think the problem is the adults fighting IT will never compete with the kids because the kids are learning what they are going up against just as the audience is. By the time the adults do it, the audience is already aware.
Thats also why I support the humor in this one. The adult scenes in the miniseries were not only without suspense, but just plain dull. It seems to me that they made Chapter Two intentionally funny to make it more tolerable.
THANK YOU! I understand the whole "overcome your fears" thing, but defeating Pennywise via gang-beat-in was annoying.
As for the Beverly thing - she was such an important part of the fights in the book. People bitch about stupid things like "fridging" in movies like Deadpool 2, but I didn't hear anyone complain about the very obvious fridging of Beverly.
Can't agree with this.
The miniseries really was amazing knowing the budget they had compared to this one.
There are a shitload of scare jumps in the new saga, while the original miniserie, at least the first part, was haunting because of how Curry performed as Pennywise.
He didn't need to much to get the terror going. Remember that scene with the little girl and the sheets? His face from smiles to ... horror?
I can agree that the second part (2019) fight with Pennywise was better than the second part (1990).