I thought it was a fun movie, but I wouldn't say it's good. That being said the Venom films are no where near on par with majority of the MCU, but because Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man they've seemingly been able to force their way in and my worry is that the quality of what Sony has been doing will drag Spider-Man down.
shareThe Venom films underscore why Sony has failed at superhero films and Disney has succeeded. The entire movie is a mess. It's mostly dumb slapstick humor, aimed at the lowest of the lowbrow audiences, punctuated with meaningless action sequences. The plot is non-existent, characters are motivated by nothing more than "the script says to do this because we need the movie to go in this direction," and there was no actual story.
Now that Sony will reclaim Spider-Man, we can expect another series of shitty Spider-Man films that will be tied into the shitty Venom films, and no doubt include the coming soon, certain-to-be-shitty, Morbious film.
Of course Sony wants to piggyback Disney's success with Marvel characters, so they included the mid-credits scene to drop the jaws of the slack-jawed yokels that form the majority of their fanbase, but for those of us who are intelligent Spider-Man fans hoping to see a continuation of the high quality films Disney has produced featuring the character, it was a gut punch.
the venom films are really for the F&F/Transformers/Pirates audience which is why they making close to 1b.. instead of 400-500m if theyd been more mature/R rated like one would sort of expect a Venom film starring Hardy to be
shareSpot on. Transformers and F&F are critic proof and just make bank even when they’re not very good, same with these Venom movies.
I agree.
Spider-Man 3, both the Amazing Spider-Man movies and both the Venom movies have overall sucked with only a few redeeming factors.
I thought Homecoming and Far From Home were brilliant and on par with Sam Raimi’s first two Spider-Man films and I can’t wait for No Way Home.
If the next idea is a third Venom film where Venom and Spider-Man fight then I’m not interested because they’ve done a terrible job building up to it.
Marvel Studios could do a new trilogy with Tom Holland after No Way Home where it could have been an adaptation of the Venom saga/Maximum Carnage and it would be so good. Kevin Feige knows what he’s doing whereas Sony just cobble any old crap together.
Imagine if Disney had full control of Spider-Man, and could introduce the symbiote during a Secret Wars film that concluded phase 5, then introduce Venom in phase 6. First in a Spider-Man film where he wears the symbiote before learning it's true nature, then a second film where Eddie Brock encounters the discarded symbiote, and a third film where Spider-Man and Venom face off.
Instead we'll get a Sony clusterfuck where Spider-Man will meet and fight Venom just after a clash with the Scorpion, after which Spider-Man will fight Morbious, and a final act where Spider-Man, Venom, and Morbious team up to defeat Carnage and the Scorpion, with a sudden appearance by yet another Green Goblin... you know, just to spice things up!
Yep, it’s just taking shortcuts on a great Spider-Man story.
But the key factors to the story need to include building up Eddie Brock’s hatred for Spider-Man as well as Spider-Man rejecting the symbiote. The build up to the fight is just as important as the fight itself.
Tom Hardy’s Eddie Brock is basically a reluctant hero with a conscience. To turn him into a revenge obsessed psychopath now would be a complete flip of his character.
"but for those of us who are intelligent Spider-Man fans hoping to see a continuation of the high quality films Disney has produced" rrrroooofffffffllllllllllllmmmmaaaaooooo
10/10 parody post
what i dont quite get is why would they not make the Venom-verse already part of the MCU? why does he have to jump to the MCU? theres nothing in V1 or 2 that says it dosnt happen in the MCU is there?
shareBecause I don't think that Marvel Studios really wanted a part of it because they didn't have a hand in making it. Considering both Venom films take place in San Francisco, it would be a little weird that the events aren't mentioned in the Ant-Man movies or vice versa.
shareI'm not thrilled, mainly because I can't stand the MCU Spiderman films.
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