Woke? Ghostbusters 2016 was woke, this movie?????

nah, that shit went straight over this guys head. that require thinking.

can't be bothered by that.... instead it's :"oh, look, what a great explosion, look son"
what a great movie, imma buy this on bluray... YAHHHH

Yeah, Sarah made an assumption based on her experience, and Grace said nothing to correct her.

Since her life was ruined since the age of 19, is it any wonder Sarah would be so jaded as to reduce her own importance to owning the womb that will create a saviour?

She saved the world, still lost her son, and no-one knows, pretty understandable how she might be the most affable in conversation.

There was nothing female empowerment about it, or do you think that women throughout history havent been relevant?

Boudicea? Joan of Arc?

But a female who helps inspire a new resistance in a Terminator movie is a step too far?

Who pissed in your panties?

"PREACHY FEMALE EMPOWERMENT"...YET EVERY FILM WHERE THE CHOSEN ONE OR HERO IS MALE IS CONSIDERED WHAT?..ADMIT IT ALREADY...YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WOMEN.

Yeah, somewhere you had something worthwhile to say but opted to dribble over your keyboard instead.

Good job little guy!

"3 female leads. Kyle Reese and John Connor have been she-booted."

No they haven't, none of the events in Dark Fate change that they both existed in the time line, John Connor is no longer important because the war after Judgement Day he was due to fight and lead the resistance, no longer happens.

"Butch gender neutral looking one talks, walks and acts like a man."

In an apocalyptic future, where its a dog-eat-dog world, where law and order has broken down, do you really think women are keen to look as attractive as possible?

You'd be bitching if she looked like a super model, so they can't win either way can they?


"Diminutive minority one replaces white man as leader of human resistance."

Hold up, you're telling me Mexicans are a "minority"? Theres over 140million of them FFS, some "minority!"

And she hasn't replaced John Connor as the human resistance, because the war John was destined to fight in, no longer happens.


"Every human male character is an expendable moron."

Not much of a change since the first two Terminator movies then.

"Arnie has been cucked."

Thats one train of thought, but you at least understand why?

"I wish you weren't so white".

Yeah, i've heard 2 people say that, I didn't hear it, but if it was said, then it is indeed a stupid line.

"Illegal immigrants referred to as prisoners. Someone is punched in the face for referring to them as detainees."

I'm not sure what the issue is here. Is it the suggestion that Border Patrol are a bunch of dehumanising gits?

"Illegal immigrants freed from their cages."

As a diversion to try and confuse the REV9, i'm not sure why this is an issue either?

"Villain stalks the protaganists in a Border Patrol uniform."

Because that was the last time he needed to be in disguise, after that it was largely irrelevant, because his cover was blown now that Carl was able to single him out.

"Did I miss anything? Enjoy your chick flick/wokefest"

You must be a hoot at parties!

YOU MISSED THE OPPURTUNITY TO BE A DECENT HUMAN BEING.

You missed that the biggest idiot in the movie was the immigrant detainment center woman who Dani warned about being in danger and we were vert expicitly shown being killed. Oh and she was black.

"So a Terminator that's married being a cuck to a single mother raising someone else's kid"

At no point did Carl say they were married, which would have introduced a whole load of other problems with officialdom.

Carls mission had finished, he clearly wasn't programmed by Skynet on what to do should he succeed, so now, its still "alive", doesn't need to kill anymore, and is simply blending in, and given much time to think about what he did, is in part why he saved his "son" from being killed.

He's an internal decorator to stay under radar as much as possible, he can't self terminate, he can't just go sit in a corner until his power cells fade.


"humanity's leader being a latina with an accent on top"

I'm still confused why her being a Latina or Italian or anything other than American is such a problem for people.

"that likes to complain how people are "too white" isn't woke?"

I didn't hear her make that comment, but if she did, then thats quite clearly a stupid comment in the movie to make.

" What are you on dude? This is the wokest movie I've seen in my entire life."

Really? So its more woke than Ghostbusters 2016, Doctor Who and Charlies Angels???


"Still an enjoyable movie tough"

Huzzah, agreement on something I suppose.

A LATINA WITH AN ACCENT....SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE "TOO WHITE"

You're a republican, aren't you, Mr Fragile Masculinity?

You know in the flashback (flashforward?) where they show she is the leader she looks like a funcking kid. Like, if i saw that id think a child, not leader.

"You're not the fastest car on the lot, are you?"

I'm cut deep by that, I might need medical assistance.

"Sarah Connor in T1 wasn't "tough," she was entirely believable. The only thing she did was push a button at the end after Kyle Reese had turn the Terminator into a legless cripple who crawled on the floor at 0.0001 MPH."

Yeah, because we didn't see a noticeable change in her demeanour throughout the movie at all did we? "On your feet soldier" and "you're terminated f**ker!"

"Sarah Connor in T2 was a cartoon character and was the start of "wokeness" in the series, i.e., as much "wokeness" as James "The Simp" Cameron thought he could get away with in 1991."

Really? She wasn't a natural progression then? A woman that needs to save her son from future robots and no-one believes her, and the one person she could rely on to protect her (Reese) is dead? Her behaviour is entirely consistent with her getting tougher and changing in The Terminator.

"Fortunately, both Cameron and Sarah Connor were gone in T3, and Kate Brewster was far more believable than the T2 incarnation of Sarah Connor, though she did have a couple of laughable "Action Girl" and "Chick Fu" moments."

I must admit, I didn't mind most of Terminator 3, and Claire Danes wasn't the worst thing about it.

"Blair Williams in TS was more or less believable, if you ignore the fact that chicks would never be combat soldiers in an apocalyptic scenario where humans are fighting for survival of the species. That's because women are far less expendable than men with regard to procreation, i.e., one man can impregnate many women, but it doesn't work the other way around."

She wasn't a combat soldier, she was a pilot, and I would imagine theres a whole lot less pilots in an apocalyptic world than grunts and cannon fodder

"Sarah Connor in TG was more or less believable too, aside from her acting like an entitled Millennial despite having been born in the mid 1960s. At least she didn't bust out any Chick Fu."

She was less believable because even though she didn't have John Connor to protect, she should have been a bit more battle hardened by Terminators trying to kill her since she was a child.

"T:DF has the most blatant form of "wokeness," i.e., replacing an established male character with a female character (John Connor replaced by whatshername)."

John wasn't replaced, he was killed, his story had ended, because the Judgement Day that Skynet brought about was averted.

But as its obvious a rogue AI will always come to fruition is why certain events will always repeat, and a different Judgement Day will occur later.

" They even added some woke seasoning to it, i.e., a white character replaced by a Mexican character."

I don't think its really that important whether she was Mexican or Italian, totally irrelevant to the story, certainly you shouldn't have a hang up about it.

"On top of that they gave her an ultra laughable, obligatory Chick Fu scene, despite her being 5-foot-fuckall and weighing all of 90 pounds soaking wet."

Yeah, that was about as woke as it got, but then none of her adversaries in that scenario were upto much were they?


"Other examples of "wokeness" from this movie are correctly pointed out by others in this thread."

They really haven't.

"What are you talking about? Carl isn't relevant. Carl is an "it," not a he or she. Machines don't have a biological sex, obviously. None of the main characters in this movie were male. Two main characters were played by male actors, but their characters were both machines."

Now you're just being pedantic. WE as the audience see them as male characters, just as we the audience saw the TX in T3 as female. Its clear their programming skews acting like the sex they look like.

>Sarah Connor in T2 was a cartoon character and was the start of "wokeness" in the series, i.e., as much "wokeness" as James "The Simp" Cameron thought he could get away with in 1991.

Stopped reading there. You like your female characters defenseless. Leave the badassery to dudes, amirite, bro?

There is NOTHING even remotely believable about Dani becoming the future leader. The scene where she rescues Grace is comical. I have so many problems with this move, but that is one that stands out. Grace was a strong character and even most of us who really dislike DF, liked her. I could possibly buy into someone like Grace being the future leader, but not in a million years, Dani. And I don't believe for one moment that Sara taking Dani under her wing would turn her into a bad ass.

Comparing Sarah in T2 and Dani is laughable.