Looking at these global numbers and a$250 million production budget and an $80 million marketing spend...it's yet ANOTHER expensive misfire. Will be lucky to gross $550 million ww.
shareThe general release of the film was May 24-26. Isn't your claim of "expensive misfire" today on May 28th a bit pre-mature?
shareBreakeven is $650m. Its a confirmed flop and QueenFanUSA is 99.9% accurate.
shareQueens is rarely accurate when predicting box office
shareWhat was the total box office after its full run?
share@Ranb(I'll ignore your cringeworthy interjection of race into this discussion)
No because this should have performed much better than this with an IP like The Little Mermaid and with this gargantuan budget and marketing spend. The OW numbers are already in and the overseas numbers are downright disastrous.
LOL, someone has no clue how the movie business works. Maybe sit this one out, sport
shareReally?
I'll wait for you to show me where I am wrong.
How about every word you typed
shareLet's start with overseas numbers. What say you...are they adequate for a film as expensive as this?
If the answer is "yes" please back up your position. You know so much about how the "movie business works" I'm more than eager to listen.
Are you talking one weekend?
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Yes the OW is the biggest weekend. It only dwindles from here. The final worldwide gross looks like it will fall way below the 650+ million it will need to break even. With your "movie business" knowledge certainly you know the probable path for this judging by historical trends?
shareHaving the 5th biggest memorial day opening in history is bad?
shareWhere did you get 650 break even? Fox and Variety both have the total cost at 330-340 million
shareThat's the cost yes. Studios only get a 50% share of the domestic revenue, they often get 40% or even less in international territories.
Let's say this film makes $500 million worldwide. Disney aren't getting all that, they'll get a smidge under half that.
So it does indeed need to gross $650+ million worldwide to break even. Spoiler: It won't.
Thank you!
shareSpoiler alert No it doesn’t need to make 650.
shareGo ahead and be a delicate flower. Does not change the fact that racists are losing their minds over the casting choice.
I still think it is pre-mature to call this film a loser.
Geez we know you hate disney queen and love to troll but its only just been released , 185 million after 3 days , long way to go, any thoughts on black adam and shazam 2 box office performance? You made zero noise on thise boards considering you like to comment on box office performance?
shareI have commented on both of those films as well. Just because you keep repeating that I "hate Disney" does not make it true. They are easily my favorite entertainment company and I post the most about them because I am most interested in them.
shareQueenFanUSA, you are indeed not even remotely a fan of Disney/Marvel. You "Hate" follow both with a passion and only begrudingly post something positive about either when you are shamed due to your untenable negativism around their box office performance.
Like your old foil BillBrown would do so often, he waits you out.
Right out the gate you proclaim failure for Disney and always it is premature.
In the long game you wont return to this thread or topic like you do so many times.
Ill be back.
I AM a Disney fan! For instance I find their animation studios to be vastly superior to Universal's but am consistently knocked out by Universal's box office performance along with their thrifty budgets.
Oh...ol' ' "lyin' bill" would "wait me out" huh? More like ran from me lol. I'm assuming you saw neither his embarrassing Joker and Lion King debacles where he was caught red-handed lying and making up stories and disappeared after I shined a light on it?
Over 4 days.
shareThis is flopping hard.
I envision Indiana Jones flopping too with The Marvels also performing poorly.
Rought times for Disney.
VERY rough.
share5th biggest memorial day weekend ever and counting , they will be ok
shareThis film won't be okay, Disney will of course. They're a huge corp. This film won't kill them off. Though they're hemorrhaging money recently with their film productions.
Firstly - I don't even know what the fuck a memorial day weekend is, that's some Americanism.
Secondly - You need to consider inflation!!!! New movies are always 'breaking' records. Don't fall for their lies. I remember the hoopla around It (2017) being the highest grossing R rated horror film ever... when you adjust for inflation The Exorcist (1973) blows it out of the fucking park, no comparison. I assure you this film isn't the fifth biggest memorial day weekend ever when adjusted for inflation.
Thirdly - The domestic performance is fine for this movie, the domestic opening weekend isn't the issue. We're talking worldwide here. There is more to planet Earth than the United States of America! This is a worldwide release, not an American one. It's flopping.
Who isnt hemorrhaging money? Im not american, but we are talking about the american box office for the most part. So it's pertinent. Memorial day weekend is the unofficial start of summer and the summer movie season. I understand inflation just fine, however when the other movies on that list are recent releases, inflation insnt much of a factor as i am comparing it to them. Who cares what exorcist would have done, thats a moot point. You can try and talk down to people, it doesnt make you smarter. And where did you mention you were talking worldwide???
shareWhen talking about boxoffice I always talk worldwide. I assumed everyone else did too. Sorry if there was some confusion.
Inflation can happen rapidly. Over the course of five years there can be rapid surges in prices.
As boxoffice interests me I decided to take a look at The Little Mermaids memorial day weekend in comparison to other films. Here's how it stacks up if you're interested.
Source for figures - https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/top_opening_holiday_weekends/?by_occasion=us_memorialday_weekend
Calculator used to adjust - https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
1) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - $204.54 million
2) X-Men: The Last Stand - $184.88 million
3) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - $178.83 million
4) The Lost World: Jurassic Park - $170.41 million
5) Top Gun: Maverick - $166.38 million
6) Fast & Furious 6 - $152.41 million
7) X-Men: Days of Future Past - $141.70 million
8) Bruce Almighty - $141.34 million
9) The Hangover Part II - $139.49 million
10) Aladdin - $138.61 million
11) The Day After Tomorrow - $137.81 million
12) Pearl Harbor - $128.85 million
13) Mission: Impossible II - $124.76 million
14) Solo: A Star Wars Story - $124.46 million
15) The Little Mermaid - $117.50 million
16) Mission: Impossible - $109.84 million
17) Godzilla - $103.72 million
18) X-Men: Apocalypse - $100.88 million
19) Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian - $99.05 million
20) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - $97.13 million
21) Madagascar - $94.77 million
22) Men in Black 3 - $91.50 million
23) The Longest Yard - $91.04 million
24) A Quiet Place Part II - $63.91 million
25) Kung-Fu Panda 2 - $82.09 million
As can be seen it's 15th best. Not 5th. Inflation is a bitch. As stated the domestic performance isn't the issue, it's the absolutely dreadful international performance that is tanking this movie.
Good to know YOU always talk world wide. Maybe make that clear. People arent mind readers. Also you have wayyyyyyy too much time on your hands lol. Even IF your fugures are true. This movie is not and won't be a bomb.
shareLatest estimates are indicating this could be one of the all time box office bombs. It's an epic disaster in the making.
Some estimate the WW gross could be as low as 400 million. If this makes around 450 million dollars that would be roughly a 200 million dollar loss given the reported break even point. Which would make this a colossal bomb!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs
But apparently this film is a big hit according to some people on here and certain media articles. The dissonance is crazy.
DISASTER.
Yup.
shareTHE MOVIE HAS BEEN OPEN FOR A WEEKEND...YOU ARE A KNOWN MORON...END OF STORY.
shareI literally directed you towards boxoffice discussion sites earlier and you said you weren't interested.
Sorry dude but if you don't follow the boxoffice and understand how it all works then you should probably just stay out of the discussion.
This is seriously losing tens and likely even hundreds of millions theatrically. It's a major disaster.
You are practically the fifth person to mention it's only been a weekend. Here's the thing which some of you don't seem to understand, most movies especially big tentpole releases with a lot of marketing, earn most of their money very early. With how much this cost, how much it's earned thus far and with the current trajectory and predictions from industry insiders it's a certified bomb. It's not up for debate.
What do you and others think is going to happen here? That this film will earn twice as much next weekend as it did this one? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? It'll earn half as much, perhaps even less! That's how things work.
To give you a random example of boxoffice trajectory;
- John Wick Chapter 4 earned $73.82 million domestically in it's opening three days. It's domestic total, including that opening weekend is $185.90 million after 66 days. That's what is refered to as a 2.5 multiplier. That means the total domestic gross is 2.5x the opening weekend gross.
Applying a 2.5x to The Little Mermaids opening (a multiplier of 2.5 is common and normal) both domestically and internationally would bring the worldwide total to $462.5 million. If this movie has 'poor legs' and drops off quicker than normal it'll earn even less!!!
Reminder. This film needs to make around $650 million to break even. You do the math!
Sorry dude but if you don't follow the boxoffice and understand how it all works then you should probably just stay out of the discussion.
I HAVE SEEN YOU SAY THIS REPEATEDLY TODAY...TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE...YOU SURE THINK YOU'RE SO MUCH SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE...IT'S PRETTY PATHETIC.🙂
I'm arguing with people who don't actually know what they're talking about. It become tiring. I'm not smart, rather I do have an interest in the boxoffice and actually have half a clue on how it works.
I'm not Nostradamus. I'm merely some what educated on the topic at hand. You too could be capable of speaking so confidently within three days of a film opening if you spent 20 minutes looking into the topic at hand. It's not a I.Q. test, any idiot can get a grasp of how these things work. Trust me.
I'm merely some what educated on the topic at hand. You too could be capable of speaking so confidently within three days of a film opening if you spent 20 minutes looking into the topic at hand.
THE VERY NEXT POST...DUDE..IS YOUR CD SCRATCHED?...YOU GOT HE SAME HOOK REPEATING.