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is every episode gonna feature an awkward scene with Rufus


denouncing racism of a time period while the other 2 characters brush this off or cringe at the obvious racism while not being able to soothe his concerns?

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God right? I thought the exact same thing the moment I saw him climb into the machine. Is he going give a huge speech like that at every episode as well?

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I'm guessing there'll be a conflict with him wanting to stop the MLK Jr assassination somewhere along the way...

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Unfortunately my guess would be yes. It's one of the things that I don't like about this show.





Schrodinger's cat walks into a bar and doesn't.

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Unless Rufus is being set up to get a taste of REAL racism by going back in time and ends up appreciating what the present is like, this will get old VERY fast and end up being a deal breaker for me. I'll see what happens next week when the team goes back to Lincoln's assassination.

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It will be funny if they go to a time period where there are signs up saying, "No Irish Need Apply" or drawings of Irish looking like crazy drunken animals. Then Matt Lanter's character can get beaten up and thrown out of a place for being Irish. Then they need to go to a time period where someone tells Abigail Spencer to go make them a sandwich, slaps her on the ass, and tells her, "This is man talk, you wouldn't understand." Then the Rufus character should act all shocked and say, "Wait a minute, I thought my race had a monopoly on bigotry against them? What's going on here?"

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Hahaha

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I don't know if you have noticed but anti-Irish people have just about vanished now and sexism against women has been cut back an awful lot too. Meanwhile, America's first lady is being called a gorilla and black kids are getting shot in the street by cops.

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My post went so far over your head it isn't even funny. For one, I was being sarcastic, facetious, and satirical. You missed the point probably because you are British and not American. You also think you can lecture an American about their own country. Stick to the UK please.

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I just look at all the comments on this subject alone. We are one episode in and already the racist are coming out complaining that it's leftist propaganda clearly you people have a problem with black people it's pretty obvious to me by your comments you are hate is showing.
All you right-wing nutjobs that watch the shows and then come on the board to complain and b**** and moan about it why don't you just keep your little TV on Fox News and never leave your house.

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Yeah! Let's continue to whitewash American history and pretend racism isn't a huge part of our DNA!

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But we know whee your going to live when you start a family.

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We don't need it shoved down our throats during a TV show.

Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'

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Unless you are a racist then it is not being shoved down your throat. It was a reality of the time. I think a lot of people have also not cottoned on to the fact that the racism of the two cops was also a plot device. How else could they justify giving them a good beating and locking them in a cell? If they had offered Rufus coffee and donuts and chatted to him about Jazz music it would have made the main cast members look like utter scumbags if they had then beaten them up. By making them nasty racists it made it "OK" to bash them about and then escape.

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He made it sound like there is no more racism in 2016

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Maybe let's wait and see a couple more episodes until we get our knickers in a twist over something that, to date, happened exactly once?

God forbid a present day black man be given a modicum of satisfaction by telling racist monsters that another black man will one day be president. Can't have that, can we.

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Every single episode? Yeah, no, thanks.

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If the show is going back to a certain period then it has to be faithful to the time-period unless its evidently an alternate reality. I can understand how it can get annoying but its not inaccurate example of what happened back then. Plus, I doubt many would allow the show to get away with overlooking other historical accuracies.

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Then leave Rufus in the damn ship. A) he's just the pilot anyway, and B) in those situations he is 1000 times more of a liability than a benefit. What did he contribute in the first episode besides serving as a distraction, which frankly the lady could have done equally well if not better by just taking off her bra?

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^THIS

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i wasn't annoyed by any of that.

i did find it awkward that when Rufus brought up the issues about the racism and hostility he'd face in the past, it was as if no one else had ever considered that. the soldier guy didn't even listen to him while the history professor simply looked horrified that she couldn't soothe his legitimate concerns.

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i dont know why he was even so smug about it. yeah obama is president but blacks are still bottom of the barrel social class whether by design or their own actions. so no, they didnt "win"

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i dont know why he was even so smug about it. yeah obama is president but blacks are still bottom of the barrel social class whether by design or their own actions. so no, they didnt "win"


This quoted statement has numerous issues with it.

Firstly, it's highly insensitive, if not outright inflammatory; as if all, "blacks," can be put inside a box, where they either win or lose, altogether.

That is not representative of the real world, either. There are poor people of all skin colors and all cultures, within every state and country.

Winning or losing is tied to very personal, very local, familial legacies... regardless of any given person's unique ethnicity.

There is no grand conspiracy to hold any race down, "by design;" nor is there any reason to claim that, "their own actions," should preclude an entire set of people from achieving the American dream.

Sure, there are systemic realities that make going from poverty to wealth nigh impossible. But, that is just a gap that is difficult to bridge, no matter what anyone looks like.

There are definitely some racists involved in the criminal justice system; unless we are to believe that persons of color are inherently more violent than others. - Which is a personal thought problem, in and of itself. But, these are problems without immediate solutions.

If we analyze the facts - statistically - we'll find that violence is not tied to race, anymore than it's tied to guns, themselves.

Secondly, it shows that the writer is clearly dealing with their own personal issues... for the writer to try to sum up and outright stereotype an entire "race" of people.

That line of thinking is both divisive, and ignorant.

Furthermore, the duty of a head of state goes well beyond any one individual, or any specific culture within an entire citizenry. To try to sum up a head of state as an agent for one race, is both disrespectful, and unintelligent.

The litmus test is whether the economy as a whole does better... which is a debate for another time.

But, the fact that we have to feign outrage over a television show trying to depict how a character of color may react to historical racial tension... says a lot more about us, and our current racial tensions, than about the past.

The real question is; Why do so many open racists clearly continue to exist in our society, in the first place, in the twenty-first century?

The show is merely depicting history... not accusing the audience of being a bunch of active racists. So, if we somehow get awkwardly uncomfortable, to the point of defensive, every-time we encounter a scene that depicts historical racial tension... perhaps we need a personal examination as to why we cannot seem to extricate ourselves from that equation, in our own minds.

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Good points 

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denouncing racism of a time period while the other 2 characters brush this off or cringe at the obvious racism while not being able to soothe his concerns?

I will likely give this show one more episode and if that continues I will leave you guys to it.

I thought it was grating and went on FAR too much. It makes the character very one-dimensional and uninteresting to me.

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