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Do non-Disney Marvel films get critiqued more harshly?


I haven't seen 'Morbius', so I can't attest to its quality, but I did enjoy 'Venom' and it's sequel for what they were - silly but surprisingly entertaining fluff. However, both of those films were dragged across hot coals by critics and on social media.

The Disney Marvel films and TV series, however, always get warmly reviewed, despite being so formulaic and simplistic that each entry blends into the next. For some reason, people seem to a lot less eager to critically evaluate and challenge any flaws for the Disney branded stuff.

It felt like this was changing with the tepid response to 'Black Widow' and 'Eternals' during COVID lockdown, but the status quo seems to have returned with 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' and the non-stop conveyor belt of Disney+ series. I remember being shocked to read reviews comparing 'WandaVision' to the work of David Lynch.

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Yes. The major media corporations control the opinions, reviews, and content you can easily find on the internet.

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Good movies usually get good reviews, and bad movies usually get bad reviews.

Both Venom movies and Morbius were bad, so were Black Widow and Eternals. Spider-Man No Way Home was a good movie.

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I thought Venom and Black Widow were both fun.

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A bad movie can be ejoyable to watch when you are in a certain mindset.

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I too enjoyed Venom but the sequel was trash imo. Very formulaic and added nothing new. The great carnage felt generic to say the least but at least more entertaining than the other generic villain in Morbius who just loves to show off his putrid face and dance around.

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Morbius and Venom both feature white male heroes. These films are not toeing the Leftist party line of "diversity" the way Disney has been doing, as it kills off the white male heroes, emasculates them, or replaces them with "acceptable" black or female versions. Therefore, the media pans them.

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Interesting point! The movie was over hated, that's for sure!

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I haven't seen Morbius either, but I watched both Venom films and they were garbage. The first was awful, the second much worse. They're designed exclusively for the least-demanding, and dumbest, audience.

The MCU films have been uniformly great, and critics have given honest appraisals. The only exception has been Eternals, which is a polarizing film, and one that one expects to received mixed reviews. It's more of an art house film than a superhero film.

The strength of the MCU films is that each is completely different from the rest, and there is no formula. There is a house style that unites them, but outside of films in the same series that are in the same vein as each other, they are quite varied in tone and theme. They offer a near perfect balance of action and adventure that appeal to the masses, and intellectual wit and humor for the more discerning viewers.

So no, I don't think critics are going easy on the MCU at all. The MCU films are simply better. There's no shame in enjoying something else, but don't come up with conspiracy theories to explain why critics don't see Venom as the cinematic masterpiece that you see.

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don't come up with conspiracy theories to explain why critics don't see Venom as the cinematic masterpiece that you see.


No, what I wrote was: "I did enjoy 'Venom' and it's sequel for what they were - silly but surprisingly entertaining fluff."

What you wrote was: "[Eternals is] more of an art house film than a superhero film."

I disagree with all of your opinions, but I'm glad we can agree that there is no shame in enjoying something other than Marvel movies.

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You can enjoy whatever you want. What i find people mistake is that enjoyment = movie quality. Bad movies can be enjoyed and good movies can be not enjoyed. For example i didnt enjoy 2001.

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Agreed, haven’t seen Morbius either but Venom was a generic origin story that had a few laughs but is ultimately forgettable.

Venom 2 had nothing interesting in it for me, even the jokes were bad this time and there’s barely a plot. It wasn’t even sporadically interesting which I could at least say about Venom. I’m actually surprised some critics consider the sequel better than the first film.

Morbius has a C+ on Cinemascore which they take from opening night audience opinions, so even the fanboys seem to think it’s mediocre at best.

The only time I’ve really felt a Marvel Studios film was overrated by critics was Black Panther. It’s a well made action film but it’s nothing special. I thought Eternals wasn’t very good but 47% on Rotten Tomatoes seems harsh, how it received more negative reviews than Wonder Woman 1984 and Venom 2 is baffling to me.


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No wonder you thought I was anti-Marvel shill or something.

You really, really love the MCU.

The strength of the MCU films is that each is completely different from the rest, and there is no formula.


Dear god, that is not even close to being true.

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You may have me confused with someone else. I've never accused you, or anyone, of being an anti-Marvel shill. Beyond that, I have slowly come around to realizing how excellent the MCU films are, and am somewhat astounded that they have been able to make so many without even one turkey in the bunch.

And yes, if you are paying any attention at all you have to admit that each one of the films is completely different from the rest, and there is no formula. That you can't admit that makes me question the sincerity of anything you've got to say.

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I wish they would.

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No. Look at the Deadpool movies and Logan.

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And The Batman.

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Exactly.

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