sorry but I'm just really tired of 'social justice' movies
dude, this same old tired theme?
AGAIN????
smh
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I'm curious.
Has anyone who complained about the theme of this film months ago had a change of heart?
I haven't had a change of heart.
I still find them boring. as a topic. Because, I see movies as being meant for entertainment, not political devices.
I guess we each are entitlesd to our opinions. I just don't like to be preached to. And, that's even if it's a cause I DO support, I still would rather have a straight away plain ole story with no motivation behind it.
Boring isn't reall the word, but slanderous of ALL cops..
shareI wonder if someone will make this into a pro-blue social justice movie:
https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/rapper-lil-wayne-sides-with-the-police-on-black-lives-matter-issue-my-life-was-saved-by-a-white-cop-304248?fbclid=IwAR3AOS1tZnCnPlNdcdR025_A6Ofy1cX7CEdzMN9Soh2m4Otj3ZLHNJ4pDxA
After getting slammed for siding with the police over its brutality that led to the death of a black man named George Floyd, rapper Lil Wayne has doubled down on his support for the cops.
The rapper was earlier slammed for suggesting that the activists were also to blame for the unarmed black man’s tragic death. Now, appearing on the latest episode of ‘Young Money Radio’, Lil Wayne explained how he was saved by a white cop when he was a kid and why he thinks good of them.
He said, “My life was saved when I was young. I was 12 or something, I think. Shot myself. I was saved by a white cop, Uncle Bob. So you have to understand … you have to understand the way I view police, period. I was saved by a white cop. There was a bunch of black cops jumped over me when they saw me at that door, laying on the floor with that hole in my chest. He refused to. He said, ‘I found this baby on this floor. I need to get to a hospital.’ He didn’t wait for an ambulance. He took his car. He made somebody drive it, and he made sure that I lived.”
No, they just like to whine. They'd never give a movie like this a chance.
sharethis same old tired theme?
So , er , whats the theme?
All i've got to go on is the description.
"World-renowned civil rights defense attorney works to free a wrongly condemned death row prisoner"
Although , i gather from the replies that the wrongly accused prisoner might be black, but then you were insisting that that had nothing to do with it .
so , again ,
what exactly are you complaining about?
""So , er , whats the theme?""
eh, I am no expert in isolating and identifying theme, but if I tried to pin it down I'd call it
'movies that try to right some real-world issue by presenting a narrative that will tug at viewers' heart strings, thereby humanizing a certain group toward a different demographic/issue which they'd have otherwise and/or hitherto been unconcerned about or maybe even postured against'
""what exactly are you complaining about?""
movies about 'true stories' of 'wrongful convictions' or other 'social action' or topics. it's as simple as that. even if it's the side of the argument I am on myself, I still dont care for this kind of movie. they always feel like i am being preached to, which I don't like
many of these social justice movies have zero black people in them, ie the hillary swank movie with sam rockwell; the hillary swank movie boys dont cry; and there's a recent one i saw just last week called Red Joan, about an elderly white lady in England. honestly, my hangup has nothing to do with race, though a large percentage of social justice movies are indeed about race. i just don't care for this category of film... movies that try to 'evoke change' or persuade viewers toward a certain perspective using film as a delivery device. I also don't care for BW 50s cookiecutter westerns, or slapstick comedies like deuce bigolo or dude where's my car, or silly shock value horror films like The Ring or I Spit On Your Grave. See, this is just a category I don't care for. Others may like it fine. Me, I yawn at the trailers, lol
my main issue with 'social justice' is that they seem to be always predictable and patronizing. once in a while i catch one that is really good, and i like it in spite of it being a 'social message' film. The Imitation Game is a good example. (another non race one btw). Locing was good. (was about race, incidently. but a great film). Usually if I find myself liking one, it's because I don't know it's a social justice movie going into it. I just don't care for the ones that scream social justice in the advertising. because that comes off boring and pedantic to me.
Thanks for the explanation.
So generally you think that any film that tries " persuade viewers toward a certain perspective" is likely to be a bit ham fisted about it and let their message get in the way of a good film?
was "The Imitation Game" a 'social justice' film becasue Turing was hounded for being gay?
What did you think of "Blood Diamond" I'd say thats a film trying to bring awareness to real world injustice and horror.
Does it matter if the preachy message is current or historical?
good questions.
'So generally you think that any film that tries " persuade viewers toward a certain perspective" is likely to be a bit ham fisted about it and let their message get in the way of a good film?'
exactly. and again, there can be wonderful exceptions, but 'as a rule' this has been my experience, which has turned me toward a certain expectation regarding these.
'was "The Imitation Game" a 'social justice' film becasue Turing was hounded for being gay?'
yep, that was it. and it was well done, well made, so i didn't find fault. this just came to me: a good movie with a message cloaked inside is fine. but a message trying to be a good movie, sux.
my memory of blood diamond is it was luke warm. i saw it once, and never was moved to watch it a second time. i remember the trailer was very impressive, but not much of the movie beyond it has Demond Honsou from gladiator, and leo had a very intense role, and there were some real bloody scenes. i guess it didn't strike my empathy buttons.
'Does it matter if the preachy message is current or historical? '
for me, they carry the same weight. some of what i am talking about here is a gray area, like, a movie can be about an historical period or event without trying to be preachy. so, to some degree this whole barometer of what is acceptable or what is preachy will vary from one viewer to another.
i just hate to be bored. and when i can 'see through' a movie's aims, that their plan is to 'educate' me on something, that comes off insulting and also acts as a distraction. plus, it's lazy. what they should try to do is say 'hey how can we make a movie that is SO DAMN GOOD that people will get TOTALLY ON BOARD with our cause, and see our points about this issue, WITHOUT EVEN REALIZING that they have been propagandized.' lol
Meh. We used to call them Oscar bait.
I don't mind it if the movie is good, but there are some that are too stupid... like the purge series.
the purge was oscar bait? or a "social justice" movie ?
To me it was just a moronic premise for a film with no intellectual substance whatsoever. or message.
Bad writing on my end. Oscar bait was meant to be aimed at just mercy.
You're right about the Purge. It was filled with the simplistic leftwing us vs the man mentally. The writer should have taken a note from John Carpenter. He handled that perspective much better in They Live.