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Alicia Vikander was so miscast - mid 20 year old 2nd in command of CIA??


the movie was enjoyable overall. too much trite 'technology' shots on screen along with outlandish timeframes of activating communications.

however, pretty much everytime Vikander was on screen I just thought that she gave me no feeling that she had the chops to be in the position that she had in the movie. And her line near the end about 'these are my people, i understand them' about adapting the CIA to the Millenials..... too precious.

could have used better editing.

Vincent Cassel was spot on like always.

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I agree. Too young for the role, and the script didn't exactly help her.



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More feminist bs. Needed a 'strong' female role to fill the quota. I wouldn't mind someone in her 40s but 20s, really? When did young females become tech savvy?

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I thought she was the best thing about the movie.

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When did young females become tech savvy?


She can say 'enhance' and press the 'add malware' button, she's practically Alan Turing.

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Hah, the enhance thing, after how it became a meme from CSI i though no movie is going to use this the same way barelly anyone uses the shoot at gas tank to cause explosion thing once people got wise that this is utter stupidity. Yet here we are, in 2016, enhancing photos.


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"Alicia Vikander was so miscast - mid 20 year old 2nd in command of CIA??"

Perhaps she was miscast, although I didn't mind her. She had an accent, but I am ready to believe that the CIA wants people with significant foreign life experience / expertise and actively recruits such people (e.g., military brats born overseas).

But AFAIK her character Lee was not 2nd in command of the CIA. She clearly deferred to several guys in suits during meetings at various points in the movie.

Lee was the newish head of the CIA's Cyber Division. Bourne read her bio on his cell. She obtained her PhD from Stanford in 2009, formed a Security Research firm called Prometheus, did work in 2011 that brought her to the attention of the intelligence community, then became Director of Research and Development at In-Q-Tel. There was some other work experience mentioned in her bio as well.

If she was such a superstar, it would be consistent that she could have obtained her PhD at age 21 (in 2009). Such early PhDs are exceptional, but not unheard of. I know people myself who obtained PhDs in fields like mathematics and computer science in their early 20s. So if she was 21 in 2009, that would make Lee 28 in 2016. Just about the same age the actress is.

You might say Lee's rise was exceptionally rapid, but that's how it goes for the best of the best. If that is the case, her age isn't that outlandish. Zuckerberg was younger than her when he achieved his wealth / influence. Steve Jobs' estimated wealth at age 25 was $250 million.

In Bourne, Lee's Stanford classmate Kalloor became one of the richest and most influential people (his company had 1.5 billion users) in the world in the same time frame it took her to become a division head at the CIA.

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I understood she was head of a division within the CIA not 2nd in charge. What I think most people have a hard time believing is her attempt to maneuver into the director position during her conversation with the Director of NI at the end of the movie.

And comparing her age to the age Zuckerberg and Kalloor are during their success is different. Founding a successful Internet company and being CEO when you started the company is one thing. Trying to become the head of an agency that has many many different aspects to it that you have no experience in (ie field work) is completely different. Zuckerberg and Kalloor owned their creations - they hit the jackpot and made it big. The CIA is a totally different creature. Corporate companies' goals are making money. The CIA is about spying, international diplomacy, world events. Being good at hacking isn't enough credentials to take control of that agency.

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Well I didn't think she was 2IC but she did seem to have too much importance for such a young person (and he looks up her grad profile online, so she must be new!) and her character did seem to flip-flop around. I guess she wanted what was best for herself only.

I didn't think the actress was bad, it was just a bad role and the film overall was just all designed to have exactly the same plot as the others (Bourne avoids the CIA throughout Europe).

The millennial line also bugged me too.

I thought her accent was good. I could tell she had a non-American one but actually assumed the breakthrough I heard was a British accent. Did not realise English wasn't her first language.

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Yes, she was terrible. One of the worst things about the film.
Certainly nowhere near the performances of Joan Allen!!

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yeah, bring back joan allen... can't remember the last bourne movie, but I don't remember her getting killed... but she was so so much more believable than the teeny model they had running the 'cyber division'... (is there even such a thing...?)

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She was miscast but not just that, she was awful in the movie overall. She spoke in a weird/robotic/monotone voice and seemed to lack emotions, yes most of CIA were like that but unlike her, they showed just enough to pass for a normal human. I haven't seen someone act this bad in a while I'm surprised she was cast all.

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Anyone younger then 40 in that position(SIC of the CIA or anything alike) would just scare the ever living *beep* out of me.

So is this a horror movie or what?

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True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country. -Kurt Vonnegut

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Thank you Anita S. and our brave XXs = The only humans;-D

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Great thread. Even though I only read the first two pages.

Glad people are giving a d4mn about PC culture.

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