... I REALY CAN'T STAND PERFECT HAIR & MAKEUP ANYMORE !!!
Or superclean (infinite) clothes .
Or drinking from empty cups all the time.
Is it that hard to add some (really it costs less !) realism to the show ?
Other than that, I 'll still watch it . "Expanse" yet is far away ....
P.S. I am sick of the kid's constantly frowning eyebrows. Surely you could do better casting on this one . Love. Matters.
Its not a Firefly clone, its a Blakes 7 clone, which in turn is Robin Hood among the stars. This is a well trodden path for many series that have come before.
I like it though.
The stupid have one thing in common. They alter the facts to fit their views not the other way!
It's not a Firefly clone, its a Blakes 7 clone ....Whatever ... Or maybe it's both, plus maybe
Firefly was better because the characters were better. None of these scifi shows really make much sense, since having humans in a spaceship is sort of stupid: machines do not need air, can be designed to take a 1000 G and however many becquerels of gamma radiation, can be turned on or off as needed etc, but who would watch the adventures of an autopiloted space truck? Arguing about which one has most believable tech is about like arguing about the type of artificial food colouring on you cupcake icing.
It took me ages to even tell who was who, except by hair, and even with some slight character development since the start, they are still pretty much twodimensional cardboard cutouts. Even with a short run, we felt we knew and cared about the Firefly crew. DM is OK, but it will not be remembered ... how old is Firefly now? That many years from now.
Now go watch Expanse.
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"Comparisons are odious" - Emerson. I believe i've seen all the science fiction shows referenced above and they are all good. Including Dark Matter.
"There's nothing new under the sun" - King Solomon and Carole King. While this only includes things under our sun all these shows were made on good old Sol 3. Originality in Sci-Fi arises from a select few under-developed concepts, and precisely how existing concepts are added in - also, there's no likelihood that anything (in sci-fi) will ever originate in any medium other than books.
I have my own rankings, but i ain't gonna inflict 'em upon you good folks (or anyone else). I'd have to exclude any ongoing shows, anyway, and I've only seen a couple episodes of Space 1999, and I think it might belong on any list, tho' I can't be sure.
Regardless, I don't think anyone's opinions are wrong, and in this ongoing post, all the opinions I've seen are respectable.
Peace
I loved Firefly, but Dark Matter has better writing and character development. Firefly really did deserve a second season though to really get going.
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Almost there for a decent Firefly-clone , but ...More like "Firefly" meets "Dollhouse" in the interesting dynamic of a group also dealing with their existential crises of who they are and what their pasts dictate about who they are.
I'm a big fan of "Firefly" and imo Season one of "Dark Matter" did work in the style of "Firefly".
But then to me "Dark Matter" made a big mistake.
The story killed a very important regular in the series, One.
Getting back to "Firefly", River probably had the most mysterious back story; with her past of being experimented on by a big company and the company wanting to kidnap her again.
She was an innocent victim and the viewer could care about her.
- In "Dark Matter" the character who was closest to River's interesting history was One.
- Marc Bendavid as One was one of the best actors in the series and his backstory (with the death of his wife, and the taking over of his company) could have led to several episodes where things had more depth and plot twists, like "Firefly".
Like River, One was not a criminal but a victim. I could sympathize with the guy.
In Season 2 of "Dark Matter", the show has lost its connection to "Firefly" mainly because One was dead.
- It's first a prison escape drama.
Once the crew gets back on the ship, without One, the story is just about a group of criminals fighting criminal companies and a corrupt government with only vague motivation of fighting and revenge.
- There is no character I cared that much about on the ship except maybe Five; but she was a thief with no sympathetic backstory.
The android change was OK but not nearly sympathetic enough or that complex to carry a season.
Season 2 is looking more like killers hunting each other.
The "Firefly" magic is gone.
Imo at least, BB ;-)
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Regarding Firefly, I agree that River Tam is a character with lots of great potential backstory. But I think I have even more interest in Sheperd Book's mysteriously hinted at backstory.
I mean, we knew some things about River's childhood through Simon's storytelling and flashbacks. And we know the nasty Fed govt program did grisly things to her. But what the heck is up with Shepard Book?
He had extensive criminal experience, he had some pretty influential position in the Fed's power structure once, he apparently sought out the religious community to lay low after things got too hot, or maybe to atone for the crippling guilt for God only knows what past transgressions. And yet he's a man of faith and a man of the cloth. And the level of violence and morally ambiguous behavior in Episode one leaves him freaked out enough to confess his doubts to Inara.
They could have spent a good chunk of season two developing and fleshing out that character. I'm really sorry they never had the time and space to do that.
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In fact, if you're a Firefly fan, read the comics. They are finally continuing the story lines.
There are many episodes in the first season of Dark Matter where I thought they very much were trying for a Firefly vibe. Hell, Five is almost a combination of River and Kaylee, but Summer Glau can pull off crazy awesomely. Five should be completely nuts if she had everyones memories floating around her head.
DM is so much more emotionless than FF. The thing that worked so very well for FF, the whole crew was like a family with strong emotional ties, is sorely missing from DM; I just don't feel the personal bond between characters in DM as I did in FF. I like DM a lot,but it is no FF, not close, not yet.
shareI don't know. Judging from what we have seen in Dark Matter so far I don't think they are really the right type of characters to have the family type of relationship the characters in Firefly had and while we have seen some close friendships form between Five and Two, Three and Six and there was a relationship between One and Two in the first season before One was killed off I don't see it happening with the other characters especially with Four being close to being a villain now. I think they will get along and continue to work together for the most part but I doubt they will become like a family.
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Judging from what we have seen in Dark Matter so far I don't think they are really the right type of characters to have the family type of relationship the characters in Firefly had
Another Firefly whiner. Seriously, it's gone, cancelled years ago. Get one bit already and move on.
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Why do people keep comparing this to Firefly?? They are literally NOTHING alike. They have no relation or resemblance to each other whatsoever. Not in regards to story, setting, visuals, characters...nothing at all. If anything, it's got a similar look and feel to shows like BSG and Dark Angel, with a cast that's full of 2.0 versions of characters from several classic shows. But Firefly? Not even a little, unless you're under the impression that any story set in space without aliens must be "like Firefly."
shareWhy do people keep comparing this to Firefly??
Starhunter ...... was sometimes derided as a Firefly "ripoff"
Yep, seen that.... still desperately waiting for the promised Season 3 and the return of Dante, though!!
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