... I REALY CAN'T STAND PERFECT HAIR & MAKEUP ANYMORE !!!
Or superclean (infinite) clothes .
Or drinking from empty cups all the time.
Is it that hard to add some (really it costs less !) realism to the show ?
Other than that, I 'll still watch it . "Expanse" yet is far away ....
P.S. I am sick of the kid's constantly frowning eyebrows. Surely you could do better casting on this one . Love. Matters.
Firefly doesn't even compare to this... this one is far superior and it shows by lasting more seasons. Though FF is good otherwise, just not as good imo.
sharethis one is far superior and it shows by lasting more seasons.
Not too mention that it is really unfair to compare the ratings quota of an early 2000s major 4 network to a cable network that has no qualm about airing Sharknado.
shareyeah, come on man. dismissing Firefly so easily.. first time i'v seen someone do that
shareFirefly was a great show but it's always been overated. BSG is the best of all of these including the the Stargates.
shareThe old BSG is pretty unbearable.
The new BSG was awesome for about two seasons, but then the show started collapsing on the fact that the script authors simply never managed to resolve all the questions they had piled up before. The end is just abysmal.
I say nothing gets close to Babylon 5. It starts very slow and it has sometimes its lengths, but its the strongest storytelling and it never ever stops.
Firefly is 14 episodes of the most awesome Sci-Fi show ever, but unfortunately then it stops.
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Babylon 5 needs so much more love. It's criminally underrated. BSG has some incredible moments (even after its supposed peak in S2... I still count the end of S3 as some of the best episodes in all of sci fi) and Firefly was excellent throughout its short run, but B5 will always have a special place in my heart.
I think what I like about all three (BSG, B5, Firefly) is that they have worlds and characters that feel "lived in", and one has to highlight the excellent character development on B5 and its great story arcs. It's something that the big guns of Star Trek and Star Wars doesn't even come close to, and these new shows, while decent (thinking Dark Matter, Killjoys et al) are nowhere near.
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I'm with you there... B5 unfortunately is becoming forgotten. It was one of (if not the) finest scifi shows. Admittedly, it is starting to date quite badly because they just didn't have the money to spend on sets and such, the way trek did. And the effects, though groundbreaking at the time (and we owe them for what we see on TV scifi now!) do need updating.
The other criminally underrated show is Space: Above and Beyond. That was a brilliant show that never had a chance.
I couldn't stand the new Galactica past the admittedly fantastic production values. I'll take original Galactica over it any day. :-)
Firefly, I was always felt was terribly overrated. It was okay, but took the western-in-space idea too literally, to the point of having (almost) no scifi in the stories, outside of the spaceship.
Dark Matter and Killjoys are the dose of 'fun' scifi that we need at the moment. Are they perfect? No, but they're great fun, with some interesting characters and stories.
So wrong so very wrong.
Firefly is appropriately rated and died well before its time.
BSG was good, although it did stumble near its end.
Stagate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis were awesome and superior to BSG in everyway IMO.
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Firefly is appropriately rated and died well before its time.
BSG was good, although it did stumble near its end.
Stagate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis were awesome and superior to BSG in everyway IMO.
I wouldn't say in EVERY way... BSG had a decent dark tone for a good deal of Season 1, whereas SG1 was always lighter. You couldn't do an episode like Window of Opportunity with BSG, for example...
Why are all "space renegade" shows firefly clones? This is a sci fi version of a well tread genre with some very common archetypes in the cast. It might as well be a cowboy bebop clone...
shareOr a clone to 90% of all traveler campaigns...
shareI agree with this sentiment. It didn't make the genre, but it's become synonymous with the genre probably because of the most recent example of it. The show that young audiences have grown up on.
The funny thing though as Firefly reuses a lot of ideas from the anime Outlaw Star (look it up if you don't believe me, it's legit hilarious), which came out like five years before Firefly.
I only seen a teensy bit of outlaw star but I know what you're talking about. IIRC it came out about the same time as cowboy bebop.
shareNot to mention how small all the locales feel, the overall universe is dull and sterile. The locations are tacked on. Especially, that Japanese planet is awfully forced. Firefly just feels a lot more genuine.
The Raza doesn't feel as real as the Serenity, the scale, etc. Maybe show it land and people use it other than for space battles and for shuttle launches.
Firefly crushes all those clones and only needs 1 season.
It's not without reason that people often say that Serenity was a character on the show. That ship has more soul than just about any other. And yeah, the Japanese planet is pretty forced; makes me think of some of the locales Picard and his team visited in early TNG...
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I disagree. I wouldn't compare Dark Matter to an overrated TV show that only become really popular after it was cancelled and while I loved watching this season of Dark Matter especially the last three episodes Firefly put me to sleep when I tried to watch it.
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... I REALY CAN'T STAND PERFECT HAIR & MAKEUP ANYMORE !!!
Or superclean (infinite) clothes .
Or drinking from empty cups all the time.
Firefly is not only superior but also more believable.
Wtf, that mind transfer to a clone tech, over subspace.
Instant clone at where ever you want to go, a space station or a planet, etc. Why is there still a need for space travel? Why the hell do people still walk around with their actual bodies and risk death?
Not only is it too fantastical for a scifi that looks like pre ST Federation level of sophistication, it's not being used consistently through out the show. They have the damn things in their damn ship.
Don't get me started on that *beep* blink drive.
Firefly is not only superior but also more believable.
Wtf, that mind transfer to a clone tech, over subspace.
Why is there still a need for space travel?
Why the hell do people still walk around with their actual bodies and risk death?
Not only is it too fantastical for a scifi that looks like pre ST Federation level of sophistication,
it's not being used consistently through out the show. They have the damn things in their damn ship.
Don't get me started on that *beep* blink drive.
I don't see Season 2 of Firefly...
That's a pretty Classic Sci-Fi concept.
Because clones only last 72hrs and you cannot send anything other than electronic data, such as DNA and neural imprinting. Otherwise space freight would also be out of business.
Because you lose all memory of the clone experience if it dies, as well as there being various health risks inherrent in transit clone technology.
It's scifi channel show, the bar is very low
Also, where's that Dark Matter movie?
You use this a lot.
But both the blink drive and clone tech is borderline fantasy for its apparent time period.
ST timeline looks to be much further into the future.
You're telling me, they jumped over 3D printing food and other inanimate items, etc. and straight to instant human cloning and mind replication?
How about the risk of solar radiation
space ship malfunction and whatever *beep* that can happen out there in space
when you can just be safe relaxing on a planet?
The rest you're just repeating yourself.
I don't see Season 2 of Firefly...
You are making the annoyingly common mistake of thinking that popularity = quality.
Honey Boo Boo ran for four seasons, and how many seasons do you think the Kardashians will get?
Just because some shows have long runs don't mean they're any good.
Firefly died because Fox mishandled it, another instance of exacutive meddling gone wrong, like so many before and after.
wow. you have no idea how corporate level network TV works. being a 14 year veteran of the TV production/broadcasting industry I do have a bit of knowledge in this arena.
TV execs at that level are generally idiots. hell, a large majority of mgt. in almost every industry is totally ignorant of exactly how their company & industry operates or how best to manage it. it's unfortunately a "who you know" environment on getting hired or promoted.
and this comes from being in the working world for 40+ years including co-owning/operating/managing a multi-million dollar Corp. which my family built from the ground up.
wow. you have no idea how corporate level network TV works.
TV execs at that level are generally idiots.
it's unfortunately a "who you know" environment on getting hired or promoted.
and this comes from being in the working world for 40+ years up to and including co-owning/operating/managing a multi-million dollar Corp. which my family built from the ground up.
Firefly is not only superior but also more believable.Seriously ? Thats important to you ?!?!?
Firefly universe does have higher tech than what those here think. There weren't a bunch of inhabitable planets. They were terraformed. States that fact right at the beginning of the movie.
Remember, there are episodes where they go to more of the central planets which had much higher tech, but most of the time the crew would hang around the border planets, where the hillbilly planets were.
That's much different than Dark Matter where they have much more super-science stuff. Like space/time pockets with a key. Or white hole bombs...