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Kinda shocked to see so many complaints, especially surrounding gender or race :/

posted 6 years ago by BruceBanner (59)
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*SPOILERS (obviously)*

I don't think people fully realise that these are movies, and actors are real life people who have lives outside of the MCU. Tony is getting OLD, Jeremy Renner is looking old in this, and a lot of others have committed massively to this franchise. Endgame was the perfect way to provide honourable exits for these actors without overly ruining the MCU.

Personally I liked many aspects of this movie, my only complaint is it crammed too much in. It feels as though we could have had an Infinity Wars Pt2 and then Endgame, they had a lot of ground to cover in this movie which contributed to a lot of it feeling at times a tad messy.

I think Ironman dying was great tbh, because he is getting old and needs to leave that role, and the entire franchise started with Ironman, and arguably a lot of the success is owed to Robert for propping up the MCU, he was consistently great in his role as IM.
I would have been happy to see Chris Evans keep on being Cap USA for a bit longer, I have no issues with BW dying, she had a great death and clearly wanted out of the MCU.

I like how Thor is with GOTG, he and Chris Pratt seem to have a great dynamic that they obviously want to continue on with, so there's lots to still look forward too imo.

We have to let older heroes pass the mantel on to newer ones. So what if one is black and another a women... seems a really bizarre thing that so many people are bumhurt by this. I honestly don't get it. My only issue with Falcon getting the shield is that I have found that actor and character a little flat at times (but then so was CE as Cap USA to begin with), I hope they give Sam Falcon some serious attention for a good solo movie for him to really develop that character, he has big shoes to fill.
Same could be said for IM, will be interesting to see who steps in the armour and continues in his place in future flicks (and no I don't think it will be Potts, she was just stepping up for the big fight, I don't think Gwyneth really wants to take that role on seriously. I mean she might do a single film to then pass it on properly to someone else, but multiple flicks with her as IW? Nah... I don't see it.

[–] cyberbob (3488) 6 years ago

This constant bickering will never end, regardless of how unreasonable one side is being

And yes, that side is like 95% white men in their 20s to early 40s, yet they like to pretend that they are the sane and reasonable ones

They claim that their beef has to do with comic book accuracy, but really only reach this level of outrage when it comes to skin color or gender. The MCU has taken thousands of liberties with character backgrounds, costumes, names, personalities, character arcs, etc. but only when these changes involve race or gender does it inspire this level of vitriol. Iron Man 2 turned Justin Hammer into a guy younger than Tony Stark and fused two completely different villains to make Ivan Vanko. Yet nobody cares, even though it's totally inaccurate to the CBs. They cast a non-Chinese actor as The Mandarin, yet fans were not outraged by this at all, instead they were outraged that the character was just a prop. You don't hear anyone outside of journalists and Twitter users crying about The Ancient One being turned into a white woman

We get it. There is a left-wing cultural push taking over the arts. The arts have always been full of left-wingers, and they always will be. No matter how much you whine on the internet, no matter how many films you claim to boycott, no matter who you vote for on Election Day, NOTHING will stop this. Either accept it and enjoy seeing people of a different color than you take on historically white roles, and enjoy seeing women portrayed as disproportionately powerful, or don't enjoy the movies at all. But we all know you will continue paying to watch them, so get used to it

[–] BruceBanner (59) 6 years ago

Amen.

[–] DracTarashV2 (4493) 6 years ago

Considering how social media and the internet in general is full of propaganda-spreading alt reich incel cons (this site for example... oh boy) who want to keep things the way they were back in “good ol’ days”, no one should be shocked by these complaints. Not. One. Bit.

But let these whincels complain. While this hate movement of theirs may attract gullible minds online, ultimately whining is the only thing they got/can accomplished. Good thing the majority in H town aren’t listening to their whining (clearly) and won’t attempt to appease their backward behinds. HAH!

[–] bond998 (1213) 6 years ago

Incel Cons, Whincels ??? Jesus Christ give it a rest.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

What complaints?

The only complaints are in threads like this complaining about complaints that no-one is raising...

[–] bond998 (1213) 6 years ago

more or less.

[–] bond998 (1213) 6 years ago

Frankly i would love see a Falcon and War Machine movies. Just call them Falcon and War Machine. There really no reason why either character need take the mantel of two white dudes. Unless you believe Black People should only get hand me downs from whitey, you racist. Also you enjoy watching people die. You sick bastard.

[–] Kingswood (1260) 6 years ago

MCU will now officially begin to fade...mark my words.

The next Black Panther and GotG3 will be the last of the big $1B hits.

[–] BruceBanner (59) 6 years ago

Yeah will be interesting to see where they go from here. Even if they fail they done good by me. From Iron Man 1 to this, not bad at all, no easy feat imo. I mean it's like a tv show, sure there were 'filler' films but on the whole they orchestrated what would had to of been (logistically, financially and legally) a nightmare to do.
Some folk can't stand 'the end' and want certain characters to live on indefinitely, but I think they doing it right by axing off people.

[–] bond998 (1213) 6 years ago

Frankly last couple solo hero movies have either been boring as hell or just ok. Black Panther was over-hyped and boring. Captain Marvel was also boring. Antman and the Wasp was just ok, Spider-man Homecoming was just ok. But nothing compared to Spider-man 2. The last stand out Solo Hero movie was Thor: Ragnarok. So yeah there differently running out of steam. Specially after Guardians of the Galaxy 3. When they more of there really popular heroes. Next you know its just gonna be Black Panther and Captain Marvel left.