Am I the only one who didn't like it? - Krampus (2015) Discussion

[–] gamer_12 9 years ago

I was disappointed in it but didn't hate it.

Things I liked:

- The clown monster that slithered on the floor
- Some of the other creature designs like the teddy bear from Hell
- Most of the adult performances (Koechner's line about the gingerbread men was gold)

What I didn't like:

- The kids were weak across the board
- The lame look to Krampus and his "elves" (I agree that using masks was something of a cop-out)
- Wasn't consistently scary or funny enough
- Dragged more than a movie that clocks in at under 100 minutes rightfully should
- The animated origin story part was lame, especially the use of animation to tell it

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

Thank you for your input. I'm glad other people can see what I'm talking about. Weak characters often make for a weak movie. The movie dragged for sure. So funny you mention the animated part because I almost entirely forgot about it, and that says a lot doesn't it? They probably thought they had this great idea, and, it was okay, but nothing special and definitely not memorable. The teddy bear looked cool as hell, I wish they would have utilized him more.

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[–] LawrenceOfAlabama 9 years ago

I do agree. Based on that jumping scene I dealt impending doom. But one we see that the monster is nothing more than a film to spin a goosebumps type scenario I knew it was more lighthearted than sinister.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

its good that you started this thread, because the discussion here is really one-sided.

and though it's lame and maybe not believable,
cause its always easy to come afterwards and say the same,
i have to agree with all of your points,
which i by myself used in the discussion after we have left the cinema.
i am not much missing of my arguments in your text and agree completely.

• the family was unlikeable, not because they were not good and nice looking people, their characters in the script were boring and flat.
• i also didn't like the faces of the monsters (krampus and his "elves"(?)). they wear masks and were not able to express anything and were quite inflexible.
• i knew before i went to the cinema that the story will be over the top, but i accepted it already before. That would be the 80s thing and in this decade there were a lot of this full of fantasy films, which were great. But yes, the story was really lame and way too simple.
• i have no problem that this one is not a horror film for adults, for me the horror part was okay (i knew it before and i could accept it and still have fun with it, though i also like real horror films), …

new negative arguments in the discussion:
• but i thought its more a comedy, a film which will give me some laughs. the first part was just "light hearted" but far from being really funny. i missed the comedy part, because it is not really one - or at least not a good one. i thought i will have to laugh out loud at least once or twice. i did (once or twice), but i really wanted to laugh, i wanted that its a good movie and just some seconds after i started to laugh i thought, okay, to be honest, it wasnt that funny at all. i tried to see the film better than it actually was.
• sometimes the script led into voids. for example, what was this with the snowmen? i have a theory about it, also i quite good one, i think, but it was so important in the film and then they just forgot to tell the audience about it.
• the characters were the usual flat ones. on one side the liberals on the other the republicans. both comic figures, but not real humans.
• nearly everywhere i heard that the animation flashback will be really great. it was okay and good, but far from being amazingly great. i am very much into computer animated films, but i have seen so much better things. though it was still okay.
• i thought Krampus will be the main villain here. it started well. and as you have said, i also liked this jumping sequence, but afterwards Krampus wasnt that important anymore. nearly everything dangerous came from his assisstents. The next time we saw Krampus was when he "opened the earth" and this figure hardly looked if it would be able to run. the figure lost any dynamic after this roof-jumping-scene.
• i liked the idea that this film is similar to Gremlins, which so many people claimed. thats why i thought that this film is maybe really good and will catch me, but i found not one similarity in plot, characters, fun and so on. the only comparisons which work are not really important: both are PG13-horror-flicks during Christmas season.
• there was not one good idea by the family to defend themselves or attack those creatures, i mean, innovative ideas.
• we saw one time that the house is part of a village, that they have neighbours just behind their fence. the scene in which they find the cars, i really thought they were on the countryside, just if the next house is miles away. those scenes felt out of place - for me!
• there was a scene when they screamed out that the elves are coming. all of them entered the room and the family stood at the wall. this scene was quite long, but they never have done anything to the family. it was just stupid. why didnt they attack? for such a long time they stood just around and then left again. what the heck?! there was absolutely no need for these weak scene
• Krampus wasnt so much a real Krampus, though there were bells, chains and fury, i always thought of him more like "Santas Shadow", which means not a real seperated creature, more a dark side of him. The whole tradition of Krampus was shown incorrect here, but okay, i could live with that, though it could have been better
• the scene were we realized that all we have seen was just a dream. which would have been - hands down - an incredible stupid and lame ending. just if a 10 year old is writing a text for school. i hated the film for a moment because of that! At the end it was good that the ending wasn't that easy to "read". that it was open for more than just 1 interpretation. that was good.

postive arguments new in the discussion:
• i liked some actors. i like the 2 and a half men-lady, the baby had a nice face, Max and his sister looked quite cute, she was attractive and if i would be 13 i would have fallen in love with her ^_^. i dont know from where i knew the mum but i also like this actor. a lot of these actors would have been good and also nice looking, but the characters they played were flat.
• Krampus is a cool figure, especially if its not well known in the USA (i am from Austria)
• i had not such a big problem with the gingerbread-men, cause it was something which really reminded me on 80s movies and i wanted to see something like that. it was just a mess that they were not that funny as they would have been able to.
• i also liked the presence of this monster-teddy, though it was hardly seen in the film.
• it was not incredible great, but i also liked the opening scene in the supermarket. it was fun to watch and to observe. a start of a film which i could like.
• i like movies with snow ^_^ especially when Christmas is coming and its like spring outside ;-)

i thoought the film will catch me and i will like it, or: that it will be just another mediocre, but good/okay film.
at the end it was just a mediocre film, but more on the bad side.

5/10

and i hate that so many people gave this film a 10, because it really doesnt deserve it.
or: the audience is quite young and hasnt seen so many films before, then it would be okay,
if they really like it that much.
i dont think they rate it fair and differentiated enough.
(even a 8 is alread a extra-ordinary good rating, a 10 is a milestone, a all-time-classic and one of my most beloved films. i find maybe not even 1 a whole year which earns a 10 and i watch hundreds of films during one year)

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[–] Crazygreen1127 9 years ago

You sound way too nitpicky.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

no, i just have a lot of good reasons why i think this film is just mediocre.
a REAL good film has to jump over all this "nitpicky"-hurdles

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

Some of your complaints make no sense, like this:

• Krampus wasnt so much a real Krampus, though there were bells, chains and fury, i always thought of him more like "Santas Shadow", which means not a real seperated creature, more a dark side of him. The whole tradition of Krampus was shown incorrect here, but okay, i could live with that, though it could have been better

Incorrectly? He's almost always presented as his own entity, he's not presented as Santa on his bad day.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

its also hard to explain…
i am not quite sure, because you dont even see Krampus that often and that well…

but it felt like he is wearing a red-white-hoody or at least a christmas coat.
these are not things a Krampus would wear.

its a feeling of an austrian who grew up with Krampus.
my partner, with whom i went to the cinema, said the same.
before i started this topic.
for her it was also not a Krampus, more a very dark version of Santa Claus.

could be something cultural, that we see it different ;-)

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

the presents for example!
Krampus dont have a sack and they dont bring presents.
but thats not the only reason
and also not a real good reason i have to admit.

its more a feeling of someone who is grown up with this tradition,
but i can also disclaim this one point
though even my friend shared my opinion
and i am not the only one who saw it that way.

we felt it if this creature was a transformed Santa Claus.

but there are still a lot of other points of critic, which are well explained
and it was just 1 point out of 20(?)

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

Actually, if you google some pictures of Krampus he's almost always present with with a sack of some kind.

This is a creature which has different interpretations through cultures, it's not a real character so there are some creative liberties.

Hell, the way you described it doesn't sound the way Krampus is usually decipted either. So, you can't complain that the movie isn't 100% accurate (which is impossible to do anyway) when you're taking liberties as well.

The makers of the movie took the concept of Krampus as a sort of anti-Santa Claus and ran with it, that's why he wears clothes that look similar to Santa and has presents but he uses that for punishment.

and it was just 1 point out of 20(?)

Like this?

• the scene were we realized that all we have seen was just a dream. which would have been - hands down - an incredible stupid and lame ending. just if a 10 year old is writing a text for school. i hated the film for a moment because of that! At the end it was good that the ending wasn't that easy to "read". that it was open for more than just 1 interpretation. that was good.

I'm not even sure what you tried to say here. Is this a complaint or not? Sounds like you like it.

but i found not one similarity in plot, characters,

It's not about the plot and characters, it's like Gremlins in spirit. Horror with comedy about people getting attacked by silly creatures.

• i thought Krampus will be the main villain here. it started well. and as you have said, i also liked this jumping sequence, but afterwards Krampus wasnt that important anymore. nearly everything dangerous came from his assisstents.

Again, this is just a personal preference, not a fault in the movie. There's one movie called A Christmas Horror Story where Krampus is attacking people and all he does is drag people around with his hooks and chains, it gets boring after a while.

This movie had a right idea of creating helpers for him so it brings variety and doesn't get boring after a while.

They were going for anti-Santa thing, so the creature was like a boss or something and the toys etc. were his workers who helped him punish people.

The next time we saw Krampus was when he "opened the earth" and this figure hardly looked if it would be able to run.

Him looking like barely being able to run are the faults of the practical effects, when you use practical effects it's hard to make something look like it's really fast etc.

In Gremlins 1 you don't see the titular creatures running that often and when they move you don't see their legs, the lower body area isn't shown that often because it's hard to make it look good etc.

Gremlins 2 tried to show it more (they had more money etc.) but again, you hardly ever saw them in full body shots and when you did they weren't so fast.

With CGI it's easier to make creatures like that move fast and do other wild movements.

Them trying to stick to practical effects like in the 80's brought them a lot of limitations as well, of course if they used CGI people would complain.

• nearly everywhere i heard that the animation flashback will be really great. it was okay and good, but far from being amazingly great. i am very much into computer animated films, but i have seen so much better things. though it was still okay.

Doesn't sound like the movie's problem, it's hardly a complaint. You listened to people and had different expectations.

Not really a fair complaint don't you think?

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

i dont need any google picture search cause i am austrian and its one of our traditions.
its like a martian is coming and telling you how Santa Claus has to look like.
i am sorry, but believe me, i grew up with this tradition
and i knew Krampus for decades,
not just for 3 months in which some americans got a picture of a "new" creature.

he's almost always present with with a sack of some kind.

it should be a basket at his back.
in the film, Krampus maybe even has one,
though we dont see it

different interpretations through cultures

there are not so many cultures which have the Krampus,
so there cannot be so many interpretations.
its just common in Austria, Bavaria and some smaller parts beneath the borders of todays Austria

you can't complain that the movie isn't 100% accurate

sure, i can!
but if you have read my text you should have realized that that is not the real problem.
i have written (here or in the other discussion with you) that it is okay if they make their own interpretation.
it just could have been an even more interesting creature if they would have stick more to the traditional look of Krampus.

but this doesnt ruin the film completly, not at all!
its just 1 point out of many

The makers of the movie took the concept of Krampus as a sort of anti-Santa Claus and ran with it

now you are by yourself saying what i have written too.
and when i have written it, you said that my argument is not okay…

i just said it didnt felt like a Krampus, more like a dark Santa Claus,
and now you say they had the concept of Krampus being a "anti-Santa Claus".

and even you say that he had atributes of Santa.
nothing else what i have said

what you dont realize…
Krampus has NOTHING to do with Santa Claus at all !!!
Krampus is the "partner" of "Saint Nicholas" which is a complete different figure than "Santa Clause".

anyway! its okay, if film makers do their own thing,
but i can say that some decisions led not to the maybe best results.
its my opinion. yes!
and?
why not?

what you tried to say here. Is this a complaint or not? Sounds like you like it.

i never said that i totally hate this movie
or that there are not also good points to find here.
i am not looking at something just in black and white,
cant you understand that there are some people out there who look on something more differentiated?!

Gremlins in spirit. Horror with comedy about people getting attacked by silly creatures.

i will never agree with you in that point
and this comarison lead people to absolutely wrong ideas.

1) its not a comedy
2) the creatures are not silly
3) those creatures have absolutely nothing in common with Gremlins

Again, this is just a personal preference, not a fault in the movie.

and?
i am talking about what I liked and what i didnt like.

anyway!
this film is called "Krampus",
so it is okay if someone like me, who sits in the audience, expects that Krampus is important in this story.
its also not a problem to create side-figures to make it more interesting,
but its strange when the "main" villain and the figure of the title is just seen at the beginning and at the end.
just if he was just a minor character.

maybe they have wasted too much time at the beginning to put all this stuff into the film. a Krampus as a mainfigure AND a lot of assistants. obviously Krampus wasnt seen very often on screen.

Doesn't sound like the movie's problem, it's hardly a complaint. You listened to people and had different expectations.

Not really a fair complaint don't you think?

if you argue that way you can NEVER say anything against a movie.
you can always say "they wanted it that way, so shut up".

"the dramatization is not well done"
answer: "they wanted it that way"

i am sorry, but your position is quite strange
and also subservient to the film makers.

this movie has the title "Krampus"
its simple a fact that you dont see Krampus that often
and that the most dangerous things are not coming from this creature.
its a weak point of the film

i just say what was not that good in my opinion and i argue with traceable arguments.
when you dont get it, then okay, you dont get it.

a huge ammount of critics and some people here are seeing it different than you.

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[–] Crazygreen1127 9 years ago

A huge amount of critics? You are aware more critics approved than didnt, right? Why are you trolling this conversation, and being your usual useless self? Attacking people for disagreeing?

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

i am not attacking anyone.

yes huge ammount of critics.
metascore is still at "48/100".
that sounds not that critics love this film

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[–] Crazygreen1127 9 years ago

And the rt is 65%.

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[–] CinderFall 9 years ago

i dont need any google picture search cause i am austrian and its one of our traditions.
its like a martian is coming and telling you how Santa Claus has to look like.

That right there is where I stopped caring for your argument. You drove a good point up until these two sentences. I really hated that you sank your own perfectly fine ship with those two sentences. Where you said

i dont need any google picture search cause i am austrian...

made me so mad. Well, you know what? I'm from Texas, I don't like the interpretation people had of cowboys, so therefore, I don't need to look at pictures of the real deal because I know what they are. That's how idiotic that sounds. Just because you grew up with that folklore doesn't mean its specifically isolated to how you view it. There are many interpretations of Krampus across many cultures and there is always going to be a differentiation on how it looks. Just like how the boogeyman that I grew up with was a giant bloody creature that eats the heads of children that see it (yeah, my parents were a little cruel. But I was fine with it, it got me to sleep, so it worked). And then you have the audacity to say

its like a martian is coming and telling you how Santa Claus has to look like.

Well whoop-de-doo-dah. The martian is allowed to have his views. Get off your high horse, just because its of a central European (not isolated to Austria) origin does not mean any other interpretation of it is wrong.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

you are right, those 2 sentences were not okay

though there is no other interpretation of the tradition, because the tradition is how it is.
there is (obviously) a interpretation of the figure of Krampus,
which is leaving the old tradition.

and the tradition is very well a special Austrian tradition!
it can be found just in Austria, Bavaria and parts of other countries, which used to be Austria.
heartland of this tradition is still Austria and in those other countries its still very rarely
and even there its following the tradition.

the film is leaving this tradition, but its okay.

its leaving the tradition because it connects Krampus with Christmas,
which is wrong.
and which produces a wrong picture of Austria too.

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[–] leftmefordead 9 years ago

Jesus h cum guzzling christ.....

TL;DR

Do you have spare hours a day to do this kinda crap

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

f.ex. you dont say anything about the snowmen, the elves entering the room, and so on…
are this well made plot-twists in your opinion, or what?
and the film makers wanted them that way,
so dont say anything against it?

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[–] grizzlybeers 8 years ago

maxi13, I am from eastern Prussia and agree that the silly stories they tell here are children fairy tales. Either way pokeball one if you can, they ain't so tuff when you bill clinton a man pedro.

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[–] not_richjenkins 9 years ago

You have to admit, it's impressive he seems to present himself an expert on Krampus then gets this very simple fact completely wrong

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[–] tylerstro 9 years ago

I saw this movie twice...the first time I saw it I was a little disappointed because I had expectations. When I watched it again it was so much better because I knew what was coming and could appreciate it for what it was and the decisions the filmmaker made. I would have liked a few things to be a little different, but face it, a remake isn't happening (at least not for 20 years...by this set of filmmakers anyway). Accepting it for what it is made a huge difference and I like this movie.

The arguments about it being worth an 8 or a 10, Maxi? Again, all of this is opinion. A movie you give a 10, I could give a 5 and this argument starts all over again.

I like this movie and I give it an 8. I love Trick R Treat and I give it a 10....my favorite Halloween movie ever. I like Michale Dougherty and want to see what he has up his sleeve. So I hope this movie is someone else's 10, even if it was only an 8 for me.

Go Krampus!!

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

if you really liked that film so much and think its an extraordinary good one and rate it with 8, then its okay.
the same with TrT: if its one of your alltime favorites without any bad points then 10 is the rating to go.

i do it the same way!

but Krampus gets a huge amount of 10s,
then there is a gap
and its getting normal again with 7s, 6s and so on.

thats quite unusual and someone can think that people who like films just gave a 10 or a 1
and dont really think about the qualities of a film.
such ratings are ruining the system
and they didnt made a rating system between 1 and 10 just for fun.

a 10 should be given just in special cases,

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

Thank you for your input. It really seems like you have experience with film and know when something works and when it does not. I think maybe the people who really like this movie haven't watched as many movies as we have, so they don't know what is possible. There is greatness out there that would make your jaw drop and head spin, but if you've never seen those movies, you don't know what's possible. We know the best of the best and can compare respectively! I agree with almost everything you wrote thank you.

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[–] zeldagirl923 9 years ago

Are you serious right now?

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[–] TeenVamp 9 years ago

Krampus was a piece of *beep* If you're a giant pussy who knows nothing about good horror movies and CGI gingerbread men scare you then maybe you'll enjoy it.

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[–] zeldagirl923 9 years ago

I question how well you know what constitutes a "good horror movie," considering this is meant to be at least as much a comedy as it is a horror film.

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[–] cgrill8 9 years ago

I wouldn't call this a 'horror' movie in the modern sense of the word. More like in the very OLD sense of the word. Back when horror was left up to the imagination and much happened off screen of behind a lit bed sheet so we can see the shadows of what's going on, but actually seeing it happen. I really didn't see this as a horror movie. It was creepy, fun, wierd, dark and Christmasy... it was an odd mix, but a good mix (if the language was toned down, I'd try to take my 7 year old to see it to freak him out for fun.

If you think you're going to see heads spin and blood spurt everywhere... no, this isn't that type of movie. I really liked it! Now I pretty much spoiled everything HERE before I went and saw it, but I still really enjoyed it, and would love to see it again. I'm not allowed to spend any of the money overflowing in my bank account anymore not even for a $1.50 movie or even a 20 oz drink... on sale for $1... so I won't be seeing it any time soon, and what I did TO see it, was luck in itself.

I didn't have ANY problems with the art work, the masks or the look of the film. Can't believe all the gripes some people had with this movie. But that's their issue. They don't like it,... they don't like it. I still don't like comparing this to Gremlins. Gremlins freaks my kids out too... and we SEE people get killed or nearly killed in THAT movie. Stripe scratches up Billy pretty good and goes after him with every sharp tool and bow and arrow he can find... mono e mono... and how disgusting (and cool) the blob Stripe becomes after he turns to goo. Hate he was near comedy in the sequel... oh well. But what worked for Gremlins was how serious all the cast members were in the movie. Their believability really help force the weight of the situation to the audience.

Krampus... isn't like that. We're nearly taught to NOT like the family. It's hard to take the people seriously, because what they are experiencing they can't believe it themselves. Krampus yet comes off much more serious than Gremlins, because they are fending for their lives collectively especially near the end. Krampus DOES become much more serious and less the comic book humor of Gremlins. But explaining the masks (esp the elves) makes sense it that they may have 'fallen out; with Santa and decided to work for Krampus instead and hiding their faces out of fear or what not so to speak. But I loved the masks. It gave it an otherwordly feel to it, almost that 'over the pond' old European/Germania look. I kind of imagined they could have made their masks from wood from the Black Forest (where many Kukoo Clocks used to be made from - I have one btw...) or something along those lines.

I remember really trying to look at Krampus's face when we saw it... and at first I thought it WAS his face... but then sort of saw the Santa face... it was strange but fit. I enjoyed it and can't wait to see it again. I finally saw Star Wars last night, but I still want to see Krampus again...

3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers... it was Drandul, dude!

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[–] KunstK 9 years ago

Oh my gaaaaawd... reading this turd of a post made me lose all hope in humanity, hope the Krampus get's you next Christmas ;) or cancer. All the best from Germany!! (I'm from GERMANY, YOU KNOW!?)

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[–] leftmefordead 9 years ago

Man what is with people like you on message boards - the acronym TL;DR applies oh so much to this post.

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

I'm glad other people like the jumping scene as I did. It really stood out.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

comparable with E.T. in the basket of the bycicle in front of the moon.
maybe even better,
because it had really this fairy tale book flair.

really great!

(though such a big and heavy creature which is jumping in that speed from roof to roof
would have cleared away all of the roof tiles
or even the whole roof trusses :'D
but……. reality is no scale here, right?! :D )

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

I think it would've helped that you knew they were influenced by movies like Gremlins, you'd at least know what to expect from it and wouldn't be so disappointed.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

aarrrrrrrrrgh!

;-)
^_^

(no Gremlins reference here, except its a PG13-Christmas-horror-flick)

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[–] lazykaboom 9 years ago

The masks aren't a cop-out, they are sticking to traditional. Do some research, dawg

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

yes, that was a thing which they have taken from the tradition, you are right!
but that doesnt mean it was a good decision to stick to the tradition here.

because in the tradition there are humans under the mask
and everyone knows that.

the film claims those creatures are real,
so the masks were - i think - out of place.

the whole scene when the earth opens was somewhat cheap looking
and that was the time it was obvious that they were wearing just masks

edit: it threw me completely out of the illusion. this scene was too obvious just a played one.

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[–] lazykaboom 9 years ago

I liked that they did the mask route. CG monsters seem so cheap, at least we can both agree that the elves and Krampus looked pretty cool instead of animated bullsh**

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

to be honest, i am not quite sure about this.
i grew up WITHOUT CGI-stuff,
but if they are not able to make oldschool-masks which can express anything,
maybe it would have been better, if they had used CGI
- or a mixture.

i would be happy if it works without CGI,
but i dont think it worked here

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

The 80's was the pinnacle of incredible makeup effects and animatronics!

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

If you have great makeup, you don't need CG monsters or masks. The 80's is full of incredible makeup effects and illusions.

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

I agree thank you. Just because they are traditional, doesn't necessarily mean it is right for the movie. It's called screenplay, and sometimes literary things are changed from script to screen for a visual reason.

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[–] xMartyMcFlyx 9 years ago

There's one scene I enjoyed where we first see Krampus jumping from house to house. That had a nice visual flair and a storybook feeling, but that's the best I can say about the entire movie.

That was the only scene I liked too. I liked the howling noises too.

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

Thank you. I'm glad other people can see what I mean. Appreciate it.

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[–] Crazygreen1127 9 years ago

So, you went into it with a negative attitude, and walked out with one? Shocking.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

he wrote also some well explained reasons

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

Like his disappointment how the movie isn't dead serious and that creatures wear masks?

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

YES!

or… that there is no good plot or just flat characters

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

Those are not movie's faults, those are just personal preferences.

About the creatures wearing masks, that's the creative decision made by the people who worked on the movie, it's what they wanted.

That's like if I watch Halloween and complain how Michael Myers shouldn't wear that William Shatner mask, he should wear a pumpkin mask instead.

Or if I watch a zombie movie and complain how the zombies should burn people by touching them, not eat them.

As for the movie being a horror comedy, again a personal preference. The director did say it was going for a Gremlins feel, so you shouldn't have expected something dead serious. There's a ton of Krampus movies coming out anyway, at least one of them will be the dead serious one the OP expects.

Again, that's like if I watch something like Alien and say: This should've been a horror comedy, it's not good because it's serious.

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[–] Crazygreen1127 9 years ago

Its not well explained if you went into the film with a preconceived notion that you wouldnt like it.

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

i went there and had not such epectations.
i went there without any prejudices,
maybe even i thought i will like it
or at least that it will be a entertaining common american hollywood film.

and still i went out and think it was just mediocre, even slightly bad.

he is not the only one who thinks that
and the critics gave it just around 50%.

you should accept that there are also people who are not fans of this film.
thats it

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

Its at 60 something, you idiot.

"Metascore: 48/100"
and people like you should be thrown out of imdb immediately.

Went into it wih a negative attitude. And I think we should stop conversing. Because i don't really like you. You are an idiot, and a worthlesd turd.

HA HA!
you still feel fine, do you?

i told you that i went there without any bad expectations
and if my opinion after it, is not yours, i am simply lying?!
and you have to abuse someone?!

you must be 8 years old,
grow up fanboy

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[–] deadite-44 9 years ago

I Agree 100% with the OP, I don't honk this movie had and idea what it was. I don't mind humor at all, but this just fell flat. When I first saw Krampus running from rooftop to rooftop, I thought "wow, this may just be badass"! But then, nope! Not badass. The gingerbread men scene seemed like it was a page ripped out of "Army of Darkness". Also, was I the only one who noticed that any time one of the kids was lost/taken, that the parents seemed to get over it pretty quickly? Or give a kinda half-assed attempt at a rescue and then give up almost immediately? I felt like I missed something when I left the theatre, but everyone else got it. But oddly enough, the movie kept my attention. Lol

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

ike it was a page ripped out of "Army of Darkness"

ow! i LIKE Army of Darkness a lot ^_^

(but the comparison is good anyway)

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[–] maxi13 9 years ago

at least you are as funny as the film Krampus ^_^
without any doubt a unique creative mind

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[–] TheArtofHorror 9 years ago

Thank you for saying so. I agree it was a comedy, but it wasn't even funny. I chuckled once or twice. I'm glad so many people can see that the rooftop scene was a great scene. Agree with the Gingerbread Men being something out of Army of Darkness besides them being CG. But it was too silly and honestly kind of annoying. I absolutely noticed that the parents got over their kids way too quick. It didn't seem genuine. All their thoughts and actions throughout the entire movie didn't seem natural. There were actors but no acting. I didn't feel anything from them and they should've been feeling a lot.

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[–] chrishayes737 9 years ago

YES YOU ARE !

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[–] Andthevictoris 9 years ago

I didn't really like it, but I'm part of the blame. I went into it blindly.

After awhile I picked up that it was supposed to be campy, but my biggest issue was with the tone of the movie. It didn't feel consistent to me. Some parts it took itself seriously, other parts it didn't. I understand that it might be a family comedy/thriller, but it wasn't cohesive in my opinion.

Some of the writing was weird too. I was convinced the kids were at a separate dinner table. During the scene where all the kids are fighting/arguing at the table, the adults just sat there and let them pick on that boy??

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[–] disinter 9 years ago

I agree with OP, this was a P.O.S.

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[–] fleshrequiem 9 years ago

You shame that Orson Welles avatar.

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[–] disinter 9 years ago

Yeah I'm sure Orson would be blown away with praise for this movie. You shame Vincent Price, one of the biggest horror icons of all time who had to actually act in his films. You wouldn't catch either Orson OR Price act in something like this. They didn't need to rely on cgi and jumpscares, they centered the movies on their talent. Name me ONE actor/character in this film that is anywhere NEAR their league.

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[–] fleshrequiem 9 years ago

Orson would no doubt help himself to another bowl of Fritos and bemoan his inability to raise funds for his own films.

I shame no one because unlike you, I know what I speak of. You are right however, they never did do a well executed monster flick that utilized practical effects and effective moments of tension/comedy. They did however do such cinematic greats as:

Casino Royale.
House of 1,000 Dolls.
Monster Clubhouse.
Dr. Goldfoot.

*Cough*

I love both men, but let's not kid ourselves, they each made a few stinkers.

If you're searching for Welles or a Price in this kind of film, you are doing it wrong son. About 30-20 years too late and wrong.

Love your review for Aftermath btw. Cerda is an unappreciated maestro.

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[–] disinter 9 years ago

Orson would no doubt help himself to another bowl of Fritos and bemoan his inability to raise funds for his own films.

Let's not forget the wine. I'm not really a huge Welles fan honestly, I admire him for his attitude and his talent but I am a huge fan of Price. I used to watch 13 ghosts of scooby doo as a kid just because he was a part of it. I chose Orson as the avatar mainly because it was a tasteless, trolling meme because imdb boards usually degenerate into a trollfest at some point. I doubt anyone would recognize him on sight anyway in this day and age. They'd recognize the meme but not the man.

I love both men, but let's not kid ourselves, they each made a few stinkers.

If you're searching for Welles or a Price in this kind of film, you are doing it wrong son. About 30-20 years too late and wrong.

Correct on both accounts.

Love your review for Aftermath btw. Cerda is an unappreciated maestro.

Thank you. That movie was definitely unique to say the least. It took balls and drive to make that.

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[–] fleshrequiem 9 years ago

Let's not forget the wine. I'm not really a huge Welles fan honestly, I admire him for his attitude and his talent but I am a huge fan of Price. I used to watch 13 ghosts of scooby doo as a kid just because he was a part of it. I chose Orson as the avatar mainly because it was a tasteless, trolling meme because imdb boards usually degenerate into a trollfest at some point. I doubt anyone would recognize him on sight anyway in this day and age. They'd recognize the meme but not the man.

Well, Orson has some kind of immortality in this day and age to say the least, even in memes or wine commercials. Brilliant, but complex and difficult man, whom you could loathe and absolutely love at the same time. I for one have such feelings for him anyway, and I think the world is quieter, duller place without him.

As for Vincent, whom I absolutely adore, I won't go into detail, because then it would be one huge rambling rant of the very portrait of a Reneissance man, an indol, an inspiration. A man who truly lived, and no role of his (in my view) portrayed him as beautifully as Edward Sheridan Lionheart in Theatre of Blood.

Thank you. That movie was definitely unique to say the least. It took balls and drive to make that.

Are you familiar with Buttgereit's work? I think you'd enjoy some of his offerings.

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[–] disinter 9 years ago

Are you familiar with Buttgereit's work? I think you'd enjoy some of his offerings.

YES! I've seen quite a lot of his more talked about movies (Nekromantic, Shramm, etc)

What did you think of A Serbian Film? I know this one is controversial even among fans of more extreme cinema.

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[–] fleshrequiem 9 years ago

I strongly recommend Der Todesking if you haven't seen it yet, it is in my view, the greatest film Buttgereit made and possibly my favorite film on suicide.

As for A Serbian Film, it didn't really shock/offend/outrage me, as I've been steeped in such subject matter for a long time. So I looked at it as a piece of film-making, and found it surprisingly...average. If you want films with that level of intensity, but with much more competent film-making (and acting!) I heartily recommend: Men Behind the Sun, Possession (1981) or Martyrs.

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