I see Lucasfilm are taking lessons from Ghostbusters(2016)

Wrong. People started "freaking out" the second the first trailer arrived. The whole point of a trailer is to judge whether or not you think the movie its advertising is worth seeing, so the excuse of "before anyone saw it" is a poor one.

And it turned out to be a shitty movie..... seems the trailer was a fair example of what was in the movie and people judged it accordingly.

As for the "ton of racism and sexism", again, wrong.

There was some racism and sexism, the majority of detractors went out of their way to say it was nothing to do with women in the cast, and were irritated that Sony fixated on the "racism and the sexism" as an advertising rally call.

Leslie Jones didn't deserve the hate, ironically the trailers made her look an utter fool but she turned out ok in the movie itself, but she has to accept blame for engaging with the trolls in the first place.

How much shit did Kate McKinnon and Kristen Wiig get? None, because they didn't engage with trolls AT ALL.

You might claim that its because they were white so got an easy time, but thats clearly not true as Melissa McCarthy was the one that came out with the "living in moms basement" tweet and got slammed hard for it.

Leslie Jones simply couldn't keep her mouth shut and ignore the trolls, and trolls love it when their targets come back for more, her agent must have been screaming at her to stop.

And if you're banging on about Milo, he did no such thing.

After all that crap, we're still left with the fact that corporations and people working for those corporations attacking the very people expected to pay for your products is a universally stupid idea, and it didn't work for Sony, and god only knows why Lucasfilm thought it would work for them.

You're quite wrong on that. Kathleen Kennedy IS Lucasfilm, Rian Johnson works for Lucasfilm.

Both have been dismissive of fans.

You were saying?

The other difference is that the makers of Ghostbusters actually called fans who didn't like it mysoginists and basement dwellers.

No one at Lucasfilm has done that.

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Bridesmaids is basically The Hangover, but for girls... mostly 😉

The clever part, is that they didn't try to piggyback on the brand name, but rather tried to figure out what it was about that film that resonated with it's audience and they took the concept to another setting... Even if it had failed, it would have done so on it's own merits, not as a result of bad press from hurt fans and "influencers".... But it was a towering success anyway (funny movie)... 👍

The Ocean's Eight movie could work if they break down the concept and build it from there, but I think they will be lazy and simply rely on the brand name and hide behind troll blaiming if it doesn't perform (classic corporate exec cover-your-ass move).... we'll see when the movie is released... I'm not confident that it'll work as well as a movie given that there is no soderbergh and I wonder if they'll capture the spirit of the Oceans movies which I think the first Cloony one did for the most part... The trailer for Oceans Eight looks like a very average movie... But one cannot judge the quality of a movie just on the trailer, so I'll reserve judgement...

You raise an important point about rehash movies, but I wonder if many disgruntled fans agree with you (us) on this criticism... For example calls for 'fan service' are very loud online as I've noticed, for example, in the Alien series of movies...

I think the fanbase needs to be a little less precious about this, or alternativaly, simply resist any further movies in a series or any expansion of the concept... One cannot have the new without some change...

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I'm releasing Starquake for Amiga in about just under a month, so thats something I suppose.