Recasting?


Apparently, in the wake of Roiland's accusations (becoming known) and his firing, they're saying they'll make season seven after recasting Rick and Morty.

Seems like an odd move. I get wanting to watch more Rick and Morty, but I'm not sure recasting after so many seasons can work.

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I was kind of surprised the show was still on tbh.

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AI can do any voice now

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Oh, good, another way studios can screw over artists. That'd be the worst possible decision they could make.

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that's what they said about napster music sharing, and look at us now. the future is going to be more different than you can even imagine! it is "inevitable" mr anderson! ;-)

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I don't think those two things are the same thing. I'm not anti-AI per se, I just think people need to talk more right now about how to engage with it or it's going to become overwhelming. A good start would be coming up with rules about how studios are allowed to take voices and images and use them. I'm thinking about the woman who voiced Siri, who really got screwed over financially. It should cost studios big dollars in royalties to reuse voices, in my opinion; the original voice needs to get paid. That way, the use of AI would be for creative reasons, not as a way to horde money for studios and freeze out voice-over artists (who struggle way too much as it is).

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Good, then you will be one of the few organics that we spare. Bleep blop bloork!

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With society's increased reliance on digital technology, I was starting to feel like an honorary cyborg, anyway.

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Does a comedian have to pay royalties when they impersonate Arnold Schwarzenegger? Did the Deep fake videos that used Arnold's likeness and voice have to fork over royalties to anyone? Nope. AND, those deep fake videos make millions on youtube ad revenue too! What about the countless soundboards on the internet that use sound bites from celebs, and get paid via the ads on their website when people download the soundboards?! Did you conveniently just forget that is happening? Maybe you're just not using your head before you type out things on this forum?

So, yeah, it's ALREADY BEING DONE NOW!

Look, when new tech hits, it's "always" like the wild west for at least a decade before some things get reigned in. This will be the same. If you can have a computer program make the same sounds as a human, no one will care. And if you try to get your royalties, you'll come off like Lars Ulrich did when he attacked Napster. No one will care, and you'll look like a greedy asshole. Welcome to the future. Sorry, but right out of the gate, there will be literally no way to protect your vocal chord sounds from being emulated and used. Case closed.

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Impersonations are not the same thing as deep fakes, particularly since in your example you're looking at parody, which is fair-use for good reason.

I have a lot of apprehension about deep fake videos, but I think the potential for misinformation and identity theft are far worse than royalty problems. With that said, I do think that there is, potentially, a problem with things like deep fakes being used to screw over artists in a variety of ways and I also have a problem with that.

As to the rest of it, I didn't forget any of it is happening, and if you want, we can hash out my exact feelings on file sharing and how much they cost artists, unfair royalty payments (which have been going on since LONG before the digital era) and so on and so forth. I think you'll find that I'm more open to tech advances than you seem to think while also realizing that I haven't forgotten about any of the ways creatives get screwed over; I don't like it any time it happens.

As you point out, tech evolves and people adapt. I just think that, with a little foresight, we can avoid some of the ways that people are commonly screwed over. For example, where once there was film piracy online, now we find streaming services and youtube video rentals that allow artists to get paid and allow people the convenience of downloading. File sharing was also largely public, whereas I'm more talking about how corporations will use AI - very different in terms of the cost for artists.

But you've made so many assumptions about what I care about and what I know about and how I think about a really complex issue and dismissed all my ideas as being dumb based on your ideas of my ideas. How is that wise, prudent, or fair?

I'm not saying everything needs to shut down, just that maybe we could learn from the past and treat people fairly. It's not the future you're welcoming me to, it's the present. I'm saying if we are empathetic in the present, we can make the future more welcoming.

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"that's what they said about napster music sharing,"
no it isnt.

"and look at us now."
where are we? you mean amazon music legally streaming all music and not paying the artists much?

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Good points.

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yes it is the same. Napster caused the record companies and the artists to make less. that is a cold hard fact.

and, my point was not that record companies are paying artists less b/c of the technology like streaming. my point is that you cannot stop information from being shared freely, and eventually harming the artists that created it.

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you sound like the 90s

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ONE OF MY DAUGHTER AND I'S FAVORITE SHOWS...WE LOVE EVERY EPISODE...WITHOUT ROILAND THEY NEED TO JUST CLOSE UP SHOP.

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Let's wait and see. If Roiland was only doing the voices of a few characters and not have any creative input as they are saying then it will still be fun.

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"Voice of a few characters". You make it sound like he was voicing the background characters.

He was voicing the voices of Rick and Morty in a show called... Rick and Morty.
He voiced the 2 main characters and also voiced dozens of other random characters...

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