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Did you feel sorry for Pablo?


How he died, being forced to leave his family, seeing his friends get murdered by a legitimately insane vigilante group. The whole season seemed to be trying to build up more and more sympathy for Pablo.
Did you pity him at the end?

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Exactly I felt the same!

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I sure did. But I was pro-narcos throughout the series. They wanted the best for Colombia, they needed money for that and drug dealing was the quickest solution. Besides, being on the good guys side is boring af. They seemed retarded in the way they acted.

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Definitely. Sure, he did terrible, unforgivable things, but Wagner Moura and the writers did an excellent job of making him a sympathetic character.

"I'm only happy when I'm angry."

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In spite of the good writing and decent performance, when I remember bombs exploding near to my house when I was a kid because of him, I kinda don't feel very sympathetic.

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I went through the same as a kid in Cali, twice. Car bombs. It is really scary and my family and me were lucky.

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Nope good riddance the man did MUCH worse to other people. There is no room for sympathy for the devil.

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No, as they say "You've made your bed, now lie in it".

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I feel sorry for all criminals. They violate the rights of others to get what they want so that makes them less powerful, less strong, less interesting and less intelligent than others whom get what they want while harming no one. So, I feel sorry for him in that he never became a real man. The world's better off without him.

How he died


Lucky, little Pablo, got to die quickly and just after speaking to his family - in stark contrast to how his victims suffered. Nope, no cause for pity there.

being forced to leave his family,


Forced? He made choices - cowardly, selfish choices. And, when he was informed by his wife that if he didn't turn himself in that she and their children would no longer have protection and would be killed, what did that coward decide to do... protect himself. Ew!

seeing his friends get murdered by a legitimately insane vigilante group.


Seriously? He killed his own "friends" and partners and staff. When they got murdered by others that just gave him less to do himself.

The whole season seemed to be trying to build up more and more sympathy for Pablo.


How so? Examples?

I found no cause to sympathize with Escobar. He wasted his mind. I feel bad for people whom never had intelligence, or whose brains are injured or diseased. This man had a brain... now if he'd only had a heart. Pablo cared about Pablo and humanity continues well when such people end.

My sympathies lie with the DEA agents and the Bloc leader because their constant immersion in that cesspool of evil hardened them, made them desperate and they became a part of the evil, too. Easy to judge them as now being corrupt but I think of them as having been infected... with hopes of recovery.

Pablo? No hope for him because everything he did, he did for himself only.

Susan, "but I was thinking..." Leo, "STOP! Thinking is for losers!" - Scandal's satirical message.

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One thing I noticed throughout the series, is that Pablo is particularly hands-off when it comes to the dirty work of his business. Obviously he got in on it from time to time, but it wasn't like he was with his sicarios going out day after day committing heinous sh*t.

He was probably pretty insulated from the details of his business. Seems like he usually just said "get it done." which obviously is going to be interpreted pretty bluntly by an uneducated psychopathic hitman, whom he employed by the dozens.

Of course the effects of his orders were abhorrent to the core of what is considered humane and moral in accordance with commonly held values. However, this show I think did a great job in showing that the lives of these people are led just like ours, day-by-day one decision at a time. And no one can doubt the sincerity in his love for his family and close associates (in the show!). To me it all adds up to a remarkably human person, who probably was just simple enough to gloss over in his own mind the things that he was doing. Given the level of just truly staggering power that he had it is hard to even begin to comprehend what his daily reality was during that time. Certainly we can say that he was not ...competent, educated, whatever, to occupy that level of power with poise and keep the ship afloat. It's fairly hard to believe anyone could.

To me in the last couple of episodes, at his father's farm and with Limon, he seemed more than just sad or frustrated at his present fate. To me, based on the show, I feel he must of finally come down psychically and sort of realized--"Holy mother of God, what have done?!"

After he fell off the highest peak and was back to a state of lowliness I think he surely must of had to come to some terms internally with the path his life had taken.

By any reckoning, he got what he deserved. You just can't do *beep* like that and expect to get away with it. But, at least based on the show (all of which seems bizarrely plausible even though much of it was fabricated) I definitely felt sorry for him. Imagine if he had used his drive and charisma for positive endeavors. He may not of risen quite as high in the real world as he did in his gangster's paradise but I bet it would have been something pretty great nonetheless.

Again, all of the above is based of the fictional Pablo. But with that Magical Realism...who knows.

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And no one can doubt the sincerity in his love for his family and close associates (in the show!).


Everyone should be clear that he killed his own partners and he killed his own friends and when his family was in danger and he had a choice to use his own life to protect their's - he chose to leave them in danger and to instead, protect himself.

As for the rest of your post... well-written. I think the writers and actors did a great job of making Pablo appear to be a sick, cowardly narcissist rather than simply reducing him to a cartoon-ish monster. That's hard to do with a guy whose entire existence involved enslaving himself to ever-increasing profit over any other human consideration.

Susan, "but I was thinking..." Leo, "STOP! Thinking is for losers!" - Scandal's satirical message.

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Personally, the only time when I felt complete sadness for Pablo was the last episode of season 2 where he had a conversation with the hallucination of his dead cousin, Gustavo. The few seconds of silence and the line where he replies, "every *beep* day of my life, brother", was pretty heartbreaking. The look in Pablo's eyes when he utters that. He really was falling apart due to the absence of his cousin over the years, I mean, Gustavo was probably the only person in Pablo's business whom has ever genuinely cared for Pablo. That level of trust, loyalty and brotherly relationship can't be replaced by anyone which is probably one of the reasons why Pablo had so much trust issues with Kiko and his partner.

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That was a great scene.

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