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Did you feel sorry for Pablo?


How he died, being forced to leave his family, seeing his friends get murdered by a legitimately insane vigilante group. The whole season seemed to be trying to build up more and more sympathy for Pablo.
Did you pity him at the end?

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Hell no.
I felt a gazillion times more sympathy for heisenberg.

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Hell no.
I felt a gazillion times more sympathy for heisenberg.


Heisenberg was a league on his own. Best character since Tony Soprano. Hell I'm gonna say it, I liked Walt's character more than Tony's.

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Indeed

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Absolutely not. He deserved what he got. I felt a million times more sympathy for the innocent people that died because of him.

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Not at all. Wagner Moura did a good job at making Pablo look rather pitiful (that bunny helped) at the end, but he was well beyond being sympathized with at that point. I don't think the show really tried to paint him as sympathetic though, I mean it's not like this is some character they created, this person existed and this person actually committed all those atrocities. That mall bombing made even the people of Medellin turn against him.

Also, many of his actions were simply incomprehensible, not even explicable in some "means to an end" type of way. All he did was turn the public opinion more and more against him. And I may have missed something but what exactly was the point of that Red Wedding -type stunt he pulled with the wedding of one of the Cali Cartell guy's daughter? All it accomplished was fueling aggression between the two cartells. I don't really see that Escobar profited anything from it.


Do you even know what honor is?
- A horse.

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He bombed the wedding because all of them were there. Yes its immoral but if it did worked he would have get rid of all of them.

To be honest they all deserved it. Cali was far worse than Pablo until he decided to bomb close to the palace and killed bunch of kids.

From a total brutal point of view his strategy was good as he would have get rid of all rivals in one bomb.

Remember Cali betrayed him first and killed all of his friends and family using Los Pepes.




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He bombed the wedding because all of them were there. Yes its immoral but if it did worked he would have get rid of all of them.


True. But it was kind of a risky move. None (?) of the people he was targeting even died, so it backfired in a massive way. I would assume a person like Escobar (to be honest I've no idea whether this wedding bombing or anything comparable actually happened) would calculate the risk-reward ratio a bit more thoroughly. Some of his intended victims seemed to be quite close to the exploding cake even, but were barely harmed by it.

When the bride and the groom were making out outside the wedding place, I was dreading someone jumping out of the bushes to slit their throats.


Do you even know what honor is?
- A horse.

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You are saying that his tactics were sound therefore the death of innocents and law enforcement types doing there job was either excusable or something you can set aside.

Unfortunately, there are people in this world that do not value life they are unable to feel empathy and therefore they create massive amounts of destruction- regardless and separate of the Cali Cartel Pablo was an animal that needed to be out out of our misery.

I have been around these types of people in the past- eastern european- and they have no principles or ability to fit in to society. They are like children throwing temper tantrums but instead of screaming and stomping their feet they have weapons to lash out with and IMHO we are always better off without them

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Yea because there arent any psychopaths in western Europe? Considering most brutal and psychopath leaders are from big powers like UK, and the USA who kills innocent people every single day; its stupid and bigoted to categorize certain type of people to Eastern Europe

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So what about all the innocent people he killed? For example, the plane bombing.

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Hell no, not in a million years ever!
I didn't even feel sorry for his dumb stupid wife or mother!

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No way,

There was an interview with the real Steve Murphy and he said Pablo was far from the sympathetic character they tried to turn him into in the end. Like he was hurt by his Father and all he wanted to do was be a family man.

The guy was a Meglomaniac and would have killed thousands more if he had the chance.

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No pity all. Just like I felt no pityfor Hitler when he was in his final days in that bunker or for Osama Bin Laden when he was killed in that compound in Pakistan!

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Not full on pity but I could feel how sad his life seemed those last days.

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Of course. How could one not if they're engaged in the show and can separate the two Pablos? Of course, I don't feel any sympathy whatsoever for the real Pablo Escobar, but I felt sympathy for the fictional Escobar depicted in Narcos despite his evil actions, thanks to some tricky writing and a perfect performance by Wagner Moura.

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You are a complete pompous a** but your reply here is 100% correct.

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Exactly. In real life, Escobar was despicable and deserved the worst possible death.

But you read a story or follow one like this and a couple of things can happen- one, they show you the character's human side. This is the same 'nice' side that psychos use to charm regular people. This is the same good side that mothers and spouses see when they see the person. Just like all our mothers and spouses tend to overlook a lot of the bad stuff about us.

Two, the writers, though simply trying to look at things from his perspective, can themselves, get caught up in Escobar's rationalization of events.

It is useful here to keep in mind that many people in Colombia did love Escobar at various points in his life- and I mean the man on the street here. They were the ones actually living during those events and who were most affected by them. Yet so many supported him.

Are those people somehow morally reprehensible or have they simply fallen victim to the same things that we are naturally programmed to fall victim to? We and they see a man with charisma giving money to the poor, building schools and churches and neighborhoods.

I think it's quite easy and understandable to get caught up in the man's charisma as we see it portrayed in this series. And, like I said, people did it in real life with the real person so...

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