If You REALLY Want to Know Why This Show Was Cancelled... - Almost Human (2013) Discussion

[–] olwenhill2 11 years ago

Well, this is ONE woman who loves this show!! I'm a big scifi fan, and a huge Karl Urban fan.
And I absolutly hate reality shows.
Give me Star Trek, Star wars, Stargate, Grimm, Banshee etc etc any time.
Gutted this show is cancelled. PS I liked Terra Nova too.

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

In the words of "The Troggs"... Olwen, I think I love you.

Well, this is ONE woman who loves this show!! I'm a big scifi fan, and a huge Karl Urban fan.

Olwen, I'm not gay, but I am a HUGE Karl Urban fan too.

And I absolutly hate reality shows.

Again... I think I love you... LOL

Give me Star Trek, Star wars, Stargate, Grimm, Banshee etc etc any time.
Gutted this show is cancelled. PS I liked Terra Nova too.

Thank you for your reply. I expected a flame, ESPECIALLY from a woman. Thanks for being honest, and not going all "feminist" on me. Have a good weekend.

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[–] olwenhill2 11 years ago

You're welcome kind Sir.
You have a great weekend too. I'm planning to watch 'The Winter soldier' for a second time and Avengers assemble for the 100th !! (Sod the football)

Still waiting for 'Almost human' box set to be released here in the UK

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[–] ratthawks 11 years ago

Marry me!!!!

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

Uhhh... dibs!!??

http://tinypic.com/r/1zvfyu8/8

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[–] modman-2 11 years ago

you are being absurd.

lashing out and blaming women and the need to point out that you're not gay because you happen to be a fan of karl urban... come on now.

this show wasn't cancelled because of women, it was cancelled because it didn't get the ratings it needed to justify renewal. it didn't get the ratings it needed because it was a jumbled mess.

it's a pity really, because it certainly wasn't an issue with the acting or dialogue - the problem seemed to be an executive one.

the gay or lesbian jew? are you serious?

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

lashing out and blaming women

You misunderstand... I'm not "blaming" women... that would entail women doing something "on purpose". If the numbers aren't there for "A.H.", chances are, women aren't watching. It got an average of 5.5 million viewers per episode... just think what it would be if women WERE interested in shows like this... they aren't. It's STILL a cop show, and it's been proven that women aren't much "into" these types of shows.

and the need to point out that you're not gay because you happen to be a fan of karl urban... come on now.

I said HUGE fan and some people might think... NOT that I care what anonymous people think about me, but I was having a "conversation" with a woman that might think I was gay for saying that. You can't put much inflection in writing, unless you use bold or italic type, and I don't like to stop and figure out all that crap.

this show wasn't cancelled because of women

Here again, I'm not saying it was cancelled BECAUSE of women... it was cancelled because more women don't watch it, keeping the numbers down. You would think that BECAUSE Karl Urban is in it, they might watch, but in the end, it's STILL a cop show with nerdy sci-fi thrown in.

it was cancelled because it didn't get the ratings it needed to justify renewal. it didn't get the ratings it needed because it was a jumbled mess.

I liked it no matter what the storyline was or wasn't. Americans have gotten SO fvcking lazy when it comes to what they watch... they don't want to THINK anymore. They want to be "spoonfed", not having to think to hard about what they're watching.

it's a pity really, because it certainly wasn't an issue with the acting or dialogue - the problem seemed to be an executive one.

the gay or lesbian jew? are you serious?

Sorry... I meant to write "the effeminate male or the masculine female who TELLS the Jew".

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[–] olwenhill2 11 years ago

Hi sbaker777, just for the record I'd never assume you or anyone else was gay just because they're huge Karl Urban fans. Hes made some awesome films.

And I totally agree, you'd think women would flock to anything with Karl in it.
Sci-fi plus Karl Urban..... its a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

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[–] dieastra 9 years ago

you'd think women would flock to anything with Karl in it.
Sci-fi plus Karl Urban..... its a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

I'm here, I'm here! Sorry I'm late to the party ;) During the past few months, I needed to start with TOS at the very beginning first and make my way through everything before being able to properly enjoy the new Star Trek movies where I found Karl Urban for the first time (never watched Lord of the Rings or whatever else he has done before)

I just watched the Almost Human Pilot and I loved it. I'll certainly watch on.

I see you mentioned Stargate in another post as well... I never thought of myself as a sci-fi fan. I only started Stargate because of Richard Dean "MacGyver" Anderson. It became my first fandom and introduced me to the internet and fanfictions and conventions and everything you need to know. It also taught me all my English...

Not sure if you know the Simpsons episode with RDA... they make fun of a convention there, with there only being guys and no girl. They must have never been to a convention! LOL

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[–] colinmcwoo 11 years ago

I'm not gay but I still wouldn't kick Karl urban out of bed. I personally still think he would make a better batman than mr affleck. Like has been said tv shows in te states don't get given a chance nowadays apart from maybe Grimm which is *beep* ace now. I was watching Vegas and was fuming that it got cancelled and replaced with yet more reality tv bollox. I will agree with the women comment though as most women I know (not including the other half) watch reality tv and like to be spoonfed garbage. The way shows get cancelled nowadays I'm surprised strike back was allowed to continue but I guess being a half British tv series its aloowed to continue as we at least give series a second chance before getting binned.

Ps I knew I shouldn't have checked to see how many episodes were left

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[–] SpookyBlackCat 11 years ago

I'm a woman, I loved this show, and was seriously pissed off when it didn't get renewed.
Please vent your sad and pathetic anger at somewhere else besides my gender.

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[–] sbaker777 10 years ago

Please vent your sad and pathetic anger at somewhere else besides my gender.

SBC... it REALLY wasn't an "anger" issue. It was a "fact" issue. I used some stupid wording to get my point across, and you know how the low IQ, low information neurotic and paranoid liberals take things these days...

Honestly, I meant only that women don't watch shows like these (yes, there ARE women who watch... but not enough to ,make a difference), and the only way to GET them watch, is to put romance and love stories in, essentially ruining it for those who want to see action and sci-fi gadgetry or a cool storyline with NO romance involved at all.

I think sexual "tension" is good for a show, and maybe a tryst, but not a full blown "love story". "The Big Bang Theory" has done that, and now all I see on the boards these days, is people hating all the couples' storylines and romance issues. Blech... that's what soap operas are for.

I'm currently watching an old show that had the same kind of sexual tension going on in it, like in Almost Human... "Life on Mars". I don't "watch" TV... I pirate shows and watch them when I want to watch them... so no commercials and they've already been "vetted" for me.

Most of the shows coming out on Fox, USA and WGN, are far too "sophisticated" for TV. People don't want to think anymore... they just want spoon-fed tits and ass, and stupid, stupid, stupid comedy that's been done a million times, like all that CRAP that Seth MacFarlane puts out.

Seriously... I MIGHT laugh once during a show of his, ONLY because I laughed at the same exact joke the first thousand times it's been told. This is a classic example of what I'm talking about when I say "spoon-fed". New jokes that might be a little deeper than hearing an old lady fart, people just don't get and don't WANT to get.

Again... I wasn't "blaming women" per se, just the fact that it didn't draw ENOUGH of them in to watch. I think I mentioned it somewhere, but I think it had to do with not enough advertising. Now THAT could mean a lot of things... from Fox not wanting to spend the money, therefore saving their shareholders money, or, even MORE sinister, some fat cat executive not liking the show him or herself.

Shoot him, cut out his tongue, then shoot his tongue.

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[–] kdeuel 11 years ago

The problem is FOX network. Just like with Firefly they aired episodes out of order which creates discontinuity which drives away some viewers and discourages new users. FOX killed one of the best new shows of the year and totally ignored what the people wanted.

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[–] Fractured_Rainbow 11 years ago

I'm with Olwen! Reality shows are the dregs. Give me fantasy and scifi any day! Hate that this was cancelled, I love it. Again, Grimm, Haven, Warehouse 13, Star Trek, Star Wars etc are all my preference. Gutted we aren't getting Supernatural Season 9 in the UK in the foreseeable future. Why, oh why, do they keep cancelling my shows? Seriously, have networks not learned from Firefly???

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[–] no-it-all 11 years ago

I'm a woman and I watched just to see the beauty that is Michael Ealy and Karl Urban is not bad to look at either . The show really was good and to get better as it continued.

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[–] grrzelda 11 years ago

Yeah, no. Every single woman I know, including yours truly, LOVED Almost Human and watched it every single week. It's not an issue of gender, there are as many men that watch "reality" crap as there are women.

But I suspect you actually know that and are just trolling.

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

Yeah, no. Every single woman I know, including yours truly, LOVED Almost Human and watched it every single week. It's not an issue of gender, there are as many men that watch "reality" crap as there are women.
But I suspect you actually know that and are just trolling.

Yeah, no. I don't know a SINGLE man, double entendre, who watches "reality" shows. Married men might, because they are M A R R I E D. Do you know 180 million other women? If every woman you "know" watched AH, then why do YOU suppose it got cancelled?
It's all about demographics... while you and your "single" women friends watched, I'm betting that the men vs. women watching, was highly in favor of the men.

When will you Obamanites realize that just because someone utters a fact, and that fact HAPPENS to include women or minorities, it doesn't always mean the utterer is biased against those particular groups. I was just stating facts, in the RECORDS. Look them up.

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[–] fritz-59 11 years ago

I don't know a SINGLE man, double entendre, who watches "reality" shows.

I disagree with this. I know an awful lot of men - even single men - who watch reality shows like Duck Dynasty, Pawn Stars, Ice Road Truckers, BBQ Pit Masters and so on. Just because these shows are heavily slanted toward male viewers doesn't make them something other than reality shows, or any better than the reality shows aimed at women.

And since Almost Human was designed to appeal to the male demographic, it's a little unfair to complain that it was cancelled because women failed to flock to it in adequate numbers. The reason it was cancelled - aside from Fox's inability or unwillingness to keep quality science fiction shows - was that it did not draw enough viewers in the target male demographic to make it worthwhile for the network to keep it on the air.

"Cum simioli e culo meo volent."

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

I disagree with this. I know an awful lot of men - even single men - who watch reality shows like Duck Dynasty, Pawn Stars, Ice Road Truckers, BBQ Pit Masters and so on. Just because these shows are heavily slanted toward male viewers doesn't make them something other than reality shows, or any better than the reality shows aimed at women.

Good points, but I was really talking about the "women's" reality shows, like "Bachelor" and "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire" type shows.
I disagree on the "that it did not draw enough viewers in the target male demographic" part. I think it was a combination of too few women watching AND that it wasn't "advertised" enough. I hardly EVER watch TV, but I think I would have seen previews and adverts from this, on at LEAST Fox News, but never did.
Again... I'm not "blaming" women... it's just a hypothesis of mine that the "woman" factor, just wasn't there.

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[–] SpookyBlackCat 11 years ago

I'm not "blaming" women...

I was really talking about the "women's" reality shows

I'm not "blaming" women... that would entail women doing something "on purpose".

Here again, I'm not saying it was cancelled BECAUSE of women...

Ok, so it sounds like you're not blaming women, rather the crappy television that is broadcast instead of quality TV. I'm with you on this, totally legit...

just because someone utters a fact, and that fact HAPPENS to include women or minorities, it doesn't always mean the utterer is biased against those particular groups.

I get that you might be upset if everyone misconstrued your argument. Indeed if you are saying that bad tv is the problem, and everyone yells "Misogyny!, it is worth getting upset at.

However..., your whole argument that you're not blaming women is really weakened by your original post where you directly blamed women!

If You REALLY Want to Know Why This Show Was Cancelled... It's WOMEN. They don't watch good shows...

I think you can see the confusion here...

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

However..., your whole argument that you're not blaming women is really weakened by your original post where you directly blamed women!

Find the word "blame" anywhere in this... the original post. I simply said the REASON it was cancelled. Difference, moron... difference. Not enough women watched it... fact. There were probably as many men possible watching... they weren't going to get any more.

I stated facts... YOU liberal idiots inferred that I was "blaming" them. I can't BLAME them for not watching... that's ridiculous. Blaming them would mean, that they were EXPECTED to watch, but didn't.

Yes, I probably could have re-worded what I said, so it didn't seem I was "blaming" women, but I sick and tired of this sh*t. It's like White people not being able to talk about the problems in the Black community. Men should be able to talk about women's issues, just like women do about men. I'm tired of these *beep* bullsh*t double and triple standards women and Blacks employ these days.

... ask the limp-wristed program manager. It's WOMEN. They don't watch good shows... they watch that reality dating and dancing crap. Call me a misogynist... I DON'T CARE! It's women that are at least half the viewing audience, and if they don't watch it, the gay or lesbian Jew in the corner office on Madison Ave. won't renew.. Easy peasy.

Why sink a bunch of money into a show, that less than 50% of the total audience likes? It's all about money, and if "Almost Human" can't outdo "The Bachelor" or OTHER stupid fvcking shows like it, it won't get renewed.

Hmmm... I can't seem to find the word, "BLAME"

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[–] SpookyBlackCat 11 years ago

And here I thought I was being tactful by not calling you out on your over the top racism/homophobia/anti-semitism as well.

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[–] sbaker777 11 years ago

In the immortal words of W.C. Fields, "Go away liberal, ya bother me."

You are the epitome of the idiotic liberalism, that's festering in America and making life sh!tty for everyone, including yourselves.

Because I mention that I'M not gay, makes me a homophobe? A close relative of mine would be very interested in knowing that, since HE'S gay and we are close.

I can't mention Blacks, without being called a racist? Two of my best friends would love to know that about me as well, I'm sure.

http://i44.tinypic.com/epmx6f.jpg

That's me in the white skin, and two of the best friends I have, in the Black. LOL... did your head just explode? We're friends, and we talk about Black AND White problems. BOTH of them aren't married, so we talk about GAY matters too.

Sh!theads like you, fvck EVERYTHING up, by calling people racist and homophobic, SIMPLY because they dare talk about issues that idiots like you, don't talk about, because you are, well, idiots.

Liberals like you, suck the very life out of everyone they come in contact with, because they have to walk on eggshells around morons like you. YOU, and people LIKE you, are the exact reason we have so much division in our country, as opposed to when I was growing up.

We used to say *beep* please", when we KNEW we were being bullsh!tted to. It was NO big deal. White idiots, like you, have made it to where Blacks and Whites don't trust each other. I am VERY thankful that I grew up in an age where I COULD make Black friends and no one was around to whine about racism.

TODAY'S White kids are MORE racist than in the 60's and 70's, because morons like you, can't keep your noses out of Blacks' business. It's funny how little "they" care about racism, until you White bourgeois little pansies TELL them that someone is being racist. Grow up.

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[–] sbaker777 10 years ago

Every single woman I know, including yours truly, LOVED Almost Human and watched it every single week.
It's not an issue of gender, there are as many men that watch "reality" crap as there are women.

Again, I apologize for the wording of my rant... I didn't mean it to sound like I "blame women"... it's just that you are at LEAST half the viewing audience, and if they don't put enough effort into making sure that more of you watch shows like these, they will never get the ratings they need to keep a show on the air.

You ARE correct that stupid men watch that reality crap. Even the "macho" shows are a bunch of contrived bullsnot with little redeeming qualities.

But I suspect you actually know that and are just trolling.

Honestly, I was just voicing my opinion why shows like AH don't "make it". IF there was more female viewership, I think it could have been renewed.

I only troll in the "Big Bang Theory" board... some of those fanboys DESERVE it. (wink)

Shoot him, cut out his tongue, then shoot his tongue.

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