Adveserial Austronauts


This is actually my main gripe with the movie. The astronauts are at each other's throat through much of the film. It happens in many space thrillers/adventure movies, and it really bugs me. There no way people would be sent out on critical missions for mankind's future that can't even get along for an extended period of time. It's one thing that they're annoyed with each other from time to time, but they're literally antagonizing each other here.
I mean, being an expert in your field isn't really enough to be sent on missions. You need to have the personality to spend time with others in very cramped spaces as well. Otherwise, the mission (for mankind's future) would pivot on the volatility of the persons, and I just find that so stupid.

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Yep - this film had a bit of Prometheus in it - with all its flaws multiplied by a factor of 10.

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True. However, you must not forget that the producers/writers/directors are often obsessed with not just telling a story but with metaphors, morality and political agenda. It's like the director is telling the viewers something like: Look at the Russians. Basically, they're good guys, but jerks nevertheless. Look at the Germans. They're OK, but you can't trust them - in a different timeline they would've started a war. Look at Brazilians. Sympathetic guys, but a bit dumb and overly religious. Look at the captain - he's representing modern racially tolerant progressive America keeping all those guys in line.

So certain realism in the movie is sacrificed to political agenda. I usually let such things slide, although - if a movie is boring like Cloverfield 3 was - I do not ((

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A good point, but they kind of need the conflict for dramatic effect.


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They don't need personal conflict for drama. I agree with OP, it's a cheap addition to drama and distracts from any core creative conflict.

Look at the original Star Trek or Robotech. Very boring crew not at each other's throats, but there was plenty of drama.

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Robotech? I had to google that one.


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Even Apollo 13 was way exaggerated.
If they had made a 100% true account, the audience would be sleeping half the time.

But yeah......how they manage to shoot the worst idiots into space every single time the earth needs saving, is a huge mystery and extremely annoying.

The 'best' newer film in this regard, is IMO 'Europa report', but even that one stretch the discipline a lot, with certain astronauts insisting on moving too far or staying too long. The best overall must be '2001', I suppose.

I wish they could write just ONE movie, where the crew was sensible and did everything right and still got into huge problems.

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Yep - Europa Report was really good.

I also liked 'life' -

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I see your point. Perhaps these people should have been able to get along, but being marooned in space for a year with everything depending on your success could make stable people crack.

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They'd been in space nearly two years by the time they start cracking

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^^This^^. They performed fine until the paradox occurred. I have no issues with the movie. Well, except for the water freezing instantly and the gun. Yes, you can make a gun with a 3-D printer, but you can't make gun powder. I was going to excuse it because they be may have substituted the powder with maybe a solid fuel source. Oh, and the gravity not portrayed correctly. Lol.

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Yeah, they should have been more like the astronauts in 2001: A Space Odyssey... consummate professionals with no personality to speak of.

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To be fair, they'd been in orbit for two years, plus the fact the world is about to end and they are under intense pressure to subvert that would have even the calmest nerves fraying badly.

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I totally get that, and at the point where one of the astronauts (I don't remember exactly now) is somehow possessed by the phenomenon (where his eyes go all wonky), I can see a shift in personality with the phenomenon as the cause.

Before that though, these are supposed trained professionals. This is the exact type of issues they're supposed to deal with. This is their training, their purpose. This is exactly why they would've been chosen. Before they would've been let anywhere near enough to even see the rocket that brought them up, they would've gone through EXTENSIVE physiological training and testing.
We have astronauts that are going through that as we speak, and they're not even planning on going anywhere.
Or, well. I don't know if there's an active program at this very moment, but there are certainly such programs.

Listening to people that have gone through those programs, they learn to deal with these types of situations. They make sure you're not in the same room all the time. They eat meals at different times et.c. just to minimize the contact until the issue is resolved.

We know for a fact that "frayed nerves" increases the probability of catastrophe in space by tenfolds. That's why I find this type of writing so bad, and lazy.

This is one of the reasons why I liked "The Martian" so much. It showed the guys as very friendly with each other. They had banter, but they were never antagonistic. [spoiler]When Matt Damon's character woke up and realized the situation, he knew why they had left them, and I would say he agreed with that decision because he knew the circumstances.[/spoiler]
It showed them working as a team, instead of individuals in a team. I found that to be one of the most realistic aspects of that film.

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