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What's wrong with Rotten Tomatoes?


Why 19% RT?

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I thought it was better than the second one but not as good as the original Taken. Honestly a lot of these critic based sites are a joke, according to Rotten Tomatoes the best film is The Wizard of Oz and on Metacritic it's Balthazar. Most critics take themselves and films way too seriously. I'd give Taken 3 a 6/10

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That was a stupid argument? Why shouldn't they be taken seriously? And they shouldn't take themselves to seriously?
Being a critic is their job. They have to take it seriously. I haven't met anyone who said "I just see my job as a funny thing". It's serious business for them
People think critics is a funny little silly thing.

And films should be taken seriously. Just like music, literature and opera is taken and seen serious most films should be taken seriously too. Even if the song/film/book is silly it doesn't mean it is a serious work.

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When did I say all critics shouldn't be taken seriously... There are good critics out there who do there jobs well and will give films critical reviews, however many "modern" critics are a complete joke, they will give films extremely low scores because of stupid things or they will give films incredibly high scores and completely ignore the flaws that a film has. Note I was mainly referring to sites that are critic based such as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, which c'mon. Seriously going to tell me the highest rated films are The Wizard of Oz and Balthazar... User ratings will always be more accurate and to the point than a critics rating, on average. IMDb isn't perfect but at the same time neither is Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. "And films should be taken seriously" not necessarily. If you took every film 100% seriously you wouldn't like many films, especially Sci-Fi films or films that revolve around a superhero(s).

To sum up, some critics are good but unfortunately many modern critics are less trustworthy than your average user. Keep in mind a critic is the exact same as a regular user and many times critic reviews are inferior to that of user generated content. Why would a critics opinion be any better than a users?

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Nice reply!Thanks for being so friendly, not everyone is!
Nothing is perfect.Not even on the internet. But I do think RT is a more accurate tool to use than IMDB. With IMDB most of the time a film that's got like 54/100 rating on other site can get like 7. 8 rating here on IMDB. "Taken 3" is a good example. Fan-boys vote high on the film regardless if it is a good film or not. And that's the difference.

I do like both Science -fiction and superhero films. What I meant was that even tough the topic might seem silly and ridiculous and not at all realistic is taken seriously by the director and actors. As long as it is realistic in the world it portrays I don't have a problem with it.
Like "iron Man". Of course it is both highly un-realistic and silly to but the fact that that cast and director never treats or takes it that silly is what makes it good. They keep it fun, never silly.
Or "Dumb & Dumber"😃
it is extremely silly but neither the directors nor the actors treats the material with silliness.
We might treat it silly but those involved never do. And that can make a difference sometimes.

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"Nice reply!Thanks for being so friendly, not everyone is! " No problem man, manners seem to be a dying feature. I guess we're old models. If you think RT is more accurate that's fine, we all have opinions. I myself will look at multiple sites, although if I had to decide which site I find the most accurate it would be IMDb. There is really no sweet spot for reviewers anymore. As you said users will often rate films really high scores or really low scores, but the same thing happens with many critics. Critics are meant to be critical reviewers, they are meant to put fanboyism and small nit-picks aside and give the TV show, movie, music etc... a fair honest review. But today it seems that many critics, especially the internet based ones have fallen for the same traps that users get caught in... fanboyism and nitpicking. Which is a shame, critics are meant to be people you can trust for honest reviews. You find a critic you like and they are essentially meant to filter out the good films for you. But as technology becomes more advanced good critics are a dying breed and we are left looking at several sites to formulate an opinion on should we watch this film. Honestly I will just watch trailers and clips and if I think it looks good I'll bite.

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What's wrong with IMDb?

On IMDb, anyone can create account: studio bots, film friends, etc. And rate the movie high. On RT, critics have names and accountability. 10% on RT is an accurate reflection of this waste of time junk. Even Steven Seagal films are better -- so cheesy that they were unintentionally funny. This is just stupid.

Predictable action sequences, car chases, driving in wrong direction, car flipping over, hitting the truck, chase on plane run way, Russian bad guy in underwear. Cops always playing cat n mouse, and one step behind. blah.

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The 19% on RT just shows their tendency to overrate movies.

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