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What's wrong with Rotten Tomatoes?


Why 19% RT?

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They're a critic site. Critics will hate any movie that does not try and succeed at reinventing the wheel, and that's how their review scale goes. Even if your movie has no business attempting to reinvent the wheel, Rotten Tomatoes will still complain that it failed. They grade on how "3deep5me" movies can be, not how entertaining the movie is or how well it did what it was actually trying to do.

Taken 3 was not trying to reinvent the wheel. It was trying to be a Taken sequel, and did so quite nicely in my opinion. There's no deep meaning to Taken 3, it's a popcorn flick. Expecting anything more out of a Liam Neeson movie is dumb and Rotten Tomatoes has no business reviewing movies.

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But they're still super harsh on those films. Fast and Furious and Taken are some of the best in "dumb, loud action movies" yet they still get horrible reviews.

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The critic rating for John Wick is 83%. That's hardly harsh. Fast Five has 77%, which isn't bad at all. Critics aren't automatically against action films, they're generally against what they consider to be bad films.

Some other action related critic scores from there:

Die Hard - 92%
Aliens - 98%
The Terminator, Terminator 2 - 100%, 92%
Mad Max, Mad Max 2 - 95%, 100%
Hard Boiled - 94%
Casino Royale - 95%
The Raid, The Raid 2 - 85%, 79%
Predator - 78%
The Matrix - 87%
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 95%
The Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum - 83%, 81%, 94%
Star Trek (2009) - 95%
Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol - 93%
District 9 - 90%
X-Men: Days of Future Past - 91%
Iron Man - 93%
The Dark Knight - 94%
The Avengers - 92%

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The Fast and Furious movies made recently seemed to have gotten better reviews. I also would not say the first Taken got horrible reviews.

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"What's wrong with Rotten Tomatoes?"

The fact that it exists...

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"What's wrong with Rotten Tomatoes?"



I guess the more relevant question is: "What's wrong with the movie?"

I haven't seen TAKEN 3 and I don't plan on seeing it but what information I could gather from the various critics is that the action scenes are so poorly filmed and edited that they must be borderline unwatchable.
Any action film (meaning a film that heavily/exclusively relies on action sequences to entertain) should do a good job in that department because otherwise what is the point of watching that particular movie?

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Nothing is wrong with RT. It's an excellent site to use to see whether a film is good or bad.
Contrary to what most believe critics don't just automatically give a film bad reviews just because it's action, comedy or horror. Nor do they only appreciate "art films". The only thing critics like are good films. If a film is good, no matter the genre, the rating will be good.
It's just that with these particular genre it's easy to fail. Good films in these genres are rare.
And despite what fan-boys will argue, this isn't a very good film. Which shouldn't be to hard to figure out. Did anyone really expect it to be good?

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Well said,jajceboy,too often I hear from fans of horror and thrillers that the critics don't like their movies.I myself have yet to see Taken 3,nor am I in a rush to see it.I'll wait for Everly and later an action adventure true story,In The Heart of the Sea.The book was excellent,hope the movie is good too.

PS Last year I didn't pay to see one bad movie.I don't plan to waist money this year either,life is too short.

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Your user name is Lenny Nero....could I assume that you are a fan of "Strange Days?" If so, I bow to you and you have my respect! If not forgive my assumption with respect! 😀

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Strange Days is indeed one of my favorite movies. Well spotted :-)I take it you like it as well?

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Absolutely! One of my favourite movies! Always give it another viewing around New Year's Eve or Day he he...

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It's that HIGH on RT, I am a little surpised. From the previews this movie looks just awful and all the reviews I have read (I don't consider IMDB opinions "reviews") have said it's a pretty bad movie. I loved the first one, thought the second one was stupid, honestly the idea of a third sounds even more ridiculous than the second.

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It's down to 10% now.

It could've been ok, but the director had ADHD. The action scenes are unwatchable due to excessive cutting. There are action scenes in the movie with over 20 cuts in less than 10 seconds. I think the director wanted to make the action scenes more action-y.

I also lol'd at the car-falling-down-cliff-and-exploding cliché near the end of the movie.

There's nothing wrong with RT. Their scores are usually right on the money, but I agree that below 20% is way too low for this movie. Realistic scores are rare, because people review movies subjectively, because that's the only way to do it, and usually they either like them (10/10) or hate them (1/10).

IMO Taken 3 is a 1 to 5 out of 10. Can't decide if I should rate it on the high side for being so bad that it's good or rate it bad because it really is bad.

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It's down to 10% now.

It could've been ok, but the director had ADHD. The action scenes are unwatchable due to excessive cutting. There are action scenes in the movie with over 20 cuts in less than 10 seconds. I think the director wanted to make the action scenes more action-y


This was my gripe with that car chase scene. Absolutely nauseating to watch. Similar to some of the scenes in the Bourne films.

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If that's the basic RT rating, remember, it's based on a group of critics giving a yes or no (whether or not it is passable, generally at least a 6/10). So the basic rating typically exaggerates a film's quality. If most critics thought a film was worth somewhere in the 4.5-5.5 range, the score would actually probably be around 20-25%. On the other hand, if a movie solidly was thought to be worth an 8-8.5 with little variance, its score would likely be in the high 90s or even 100.

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Ummm, because only 19% of reviews they collected gave a positive review of the film.

There's nothing wrong with it, it works fine.




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Because it was terrible and should of been straight to DVD. There's so many goofs in this movie. I'll name a few incase we watched a different movie.

The police chase, cop car had no glass

It was hit like 3 times and no dents

Shot at by cops when another cop was in it

Bad voice over made Liam sound amplified, same with when Stuart was telling his story

Patriot act does not apply to a murder investigation my local police

Cop antagonize the daughter and bugged her, even Whitaker threatened to arrest her for interfering with an investigation. WTF SHE JUST LOST HER MOM AND HER DAD IS A SUSPECT are these cops heartless dbags with now moral sense?

Whitaker is some super cop but is poorly played. It seemed so scripted that his character had no life presence. It's like you knew he was going figure stuff out but there was no suspense to it.

Actors can't even hold a gun properly, as an avid shooter, it kills me to see it.

The garage explosion blew 5 floors high?!
Roll over without a scratch WTF?!
Sewer tunnel WTF!?

Cherry on top, Stuart some bad ass now? He's always a whip now he's some evil tough guy, give me a BREAK!

I can go on and on about how bad this movie is, it's like Hangover, first was good then the rest got you questioning what the hell did you just watch!?

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You have bad eyes. The director shot behind the chase car that you thought had no dents and mistook as the car he was in.

Yes, law enforcement were abusive and perhaps the writer should have sued them in the end, via Brian's character.

Yes, unless there were compressed gas in the channel that explosion would not happen.

The biggest problem came from the beginning with the change in actors playing the stepfather, and the fact Taken 2 had Lenore starting fresh with Brian, whereas this starts off as if she decided to give it a go, one last time, with a guy 15 years younger: the same prick from MI2.

The short film length and lack of ever using his wet team operatives in something truly interesting is the glaring weakness of the series.

The problem with Taken 3 is that instead of writing a compelling story line where Brian and his team helps extract a high jacked world summit scenario of leaders being executed, one by one, and thus sign off his secret career and move on in life, they leave him broken and open for a future hunt down and ceremonial execution of the stepfather, if they so choose to make Taken 4.

No one is expecting The Godfather.

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