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Underrated pivotal entry to the franchise


Watched this again last night, with all that's happened since. This movie blended pure comic book action and imagery, with a laid back approach where you really get to know the character motivations. The AI element I think probably went over a lot of people's heads especially as it relates to the mind gem but it was pretty well handled. And importantly it set up a lot of what was to come with the MCU franchise.

It spelt out the Infinity gem plot
It established the Planet Hulk scenario
It established the Natasha/Bruce romance
It introduced Vision and Scarlett Witch
It established the conflicting motivations between Tony and Steve that would be the basis for Civil War
Gave Natasha a condensed origin story
It introduced Wakanda and how ridiculously powerful Vibranium is, setting up Black Panther
It possibly forshadowed the death of many of the Avengers in Infinity war (Tony is convinced he saw the future)
It introduced the Hulk-Buster
It more or less ended HYDRA
Set the stage for Zemo with the destruction of Sokovia but also the twin's similar motivations
It even introduced the question of what happened to the technology post-Avengers invasion that was the main plot of Spider-man Homecoming (ie how did HYDRA get the Chitauri worm)

This is possibly the most important movie plotwise and character-developmentwise in the franchise

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agreed still my favorite of The Avengers films also Ultron is the closest to a Live action and Ill take it still one of my favorite MCU Films

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Not as good as the original Avengers film, but it's certainly not a bad movie. I do however feel like it was a little cluttered which is why it doesn't get as much praise, though some of that has to do with the studio trying to put things in the film that originally weren't in it like the Thor bath scene.

I initially didn't like the Widow and Banner romance, but the more I watch it the more it started to grow on me. I think the issue with it though is by this point in the franchise we've already seen Widow have much better chemistry with Hawkeye and Cap.

I would also say that this furthered the conflict between Cap and Iron Man as opposed to establishing it. They were at odds since The Avengers. As good of a line as it is, the line in Civil War were Cap says "...but he's my friend" and Iron Man says "so was I" doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless Iron Man is fooling himself into thinking his friendship is as important as Cap's friend from WW2 which still doesn't make much sense.

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