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It should have been evident to them once they made the cameras face each other, the extent of the mirrors power in controlling them.

That should have made them deduce that their plan was not going to work as long as they were in the circle of influence, as the mirror could easily from that time onwards do what it did at the end.

So why didnt they just leave the building at that time and wait for the timer to go off. Thats all they needed to do as it was clear they were still themselves.

I mean the mirror even showed them how it would protect itself by making them stand infront of it, and they still couldnt figure it out.

Were it not for that the movie had potential.

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The sister's desire to vindicate her father and brother by proving the mirror was evil ran too deep, and the mirror used this to manipulate them to their doom.

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Yeah but by the time they were out of the house and looking at themselves in the room, she had all the evidence she needed.

I mean what type of evidence exactly was she looking for, the thing appearing on camera? She already had evidence of the plants, the entity taking them over and making them doing things, the brother thinking he was outside...there is no other type of evidence.

By that time they both should have realized that since it controlled them like that, it can control them to do anything and thats all the evidence shes going to get.

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So you are going to the police and tell them AND THE JURY a mirror made you kill people?

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I don't think there was ever any real mention of going to the police, was there? It was more to be able to have proof that she wasn't crazy. It's not like they'd get a do-over.

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Yeah I did the facepalm when they went back in the house. Lol

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Who knows what's on those tapes. The mirror could make them see things that weren't there so all others would see is the 2 of them acting weird and no other changes to the room or house. The conclusion would be the 2 of them are crazy and nothing else. Going outside might not be real as they saw themselves inside in the kill switch's path. They could stay outside to see if that was the trick but you'd be betting your life on that.

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Yeah...a lot was riding on her overzealous behavior(plot device),but it became over-acting to me and a twist on dumbing-down the characters.

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The evidence was not clear they were really the ones standing outside or that they were already standing in front of the mirror. They decided to take the risk of being killed by the anchor but taking the mirror with it. See the scene when they were standing outside. However, this actually happened at the end but the mirror didn't go down with the anchor which was a weak ending.

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> However, this actually happened at the end but the mirror didn't go down with the anchor which was a weak ending.

Yeah, I didn't get that. The pointed anchor with some barbells on it should have been more than enough to drive through her throat and smash the mirror.

Then again, I thought the mirror's power was a little lame anyway. Couldn't the mirror have been smashed with the cover on it?

Or did the mirror control anybody within 30 feet of it? If so, then how do we know that any of this movie even existed? The mirror would have tricked Haley into putting it on a different wall than where the boat anchor would hit.

Maybe Haley is still standing at the auction house daydreaming this whole movie.

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"Standing at the auction house daydreaming all of this" THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING DIRECTION!!

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And, when outside, all they had to do was look through the camera in the smartphone to see if they were, indeed, inside. OR, they could have walked another 10 feet away and tried another call. These are things that, at that point in the movie, they knew.

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Except the mirror controls their perception. In theory it could have made them think they were outside by controlling what they see through their phones without actually affecting the phones themselves.

OR, they could have walked another 10 feet away and tried another call.


Except they aren't in control of themselves. They weren't even outside. "Walking 10 feet" wouldn't have made a difference if Tom was actually still sitting on the floor.

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Yeah. The mirror got a crack by their father hitting it when he fell, but it didn't even get a scratch when the anchor hit her against it with such force?.

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The timer thing threw me off. At times, she appeared to reset it for reasons I could not comprehend.

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Her will is not her own. Before they even enter the house she's being influenced by the mirror.

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Because then there wouldn't be a movie..or it would be a very short one. Have you not noticed that people never do the logical thing in horror movies? If they did you'd only be watching something for a few minutes instead of a couple of hours.

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The whole reason your explanation fails is because you are thinking rationally, in a sound frame of mind. Obviously, neither the sister (self-healed) and the brother (institution-healed) are of sound mind when revisiting the catalyst of the childhood trauma - therefore, you can not expect either to think rationally. I'm not trying to argue, just pointing this out as a possible reason why you feel this film fell flat.

Once they realized the mirror had made them face the cameras toward each other, it was too late. Might as well shoot yourself in the head at that point, because you're dead in the water before you start trying to swim again.

This is how insanity works: repeating the same process over and over (timers, cameras, etc) and expecting different results (the mirror not controlling them/the situation).

Insanity-based films are best watched by not thinking too much and just allowing it to take you for a nice mind-*beep* ride. :)



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It was too late as soon as she decided to go anywhere near the mirror again. All this talk of "they should have gone outside at this point" is meaningless. They couldn't really ever just go outside and let the anchor break it, they should never have messed with it in the first place.

Maybe they never even had a choice, they could have been living in a dream world their whole lives for all we know.

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The one chance she might have had would be to destroy it before she uncovered it at the auction house. As soon as she took it off, her fate was sealed.

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Yes, the hackneyed and entirely inaccurate definition of insanity that is passed on from generation to generation.

Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is actually called "practice." Improvement shows that you did not actually DO the same thing, but to the person doing the repetition, they can't know they're doing anything different.

That's neither here nor there, though. It's just a pet peeve. :)

You bring up that "they realized the mirror had made them face the cameras toward each other." To me, that's key. When they were outside, they already had the knowledge that, when they saw themselves INSIDE, all they had to do was look through the camera on the smartphone to determine whether one or both of them was standing in front of the mirror, and the brother had plenty of options to do the same thing at the end, and chose not to.

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When they were outside, they already had the knowledge that, when they saw themselves INSIDE, all they had to do was look through the camera on the smartphone to determine whether one or both of them was standing in front of the mirror, and the brother had plenty of options to do the same thing at the end, and chose not to.


Not true. While the mirror can't affect the picture on their phones\cameras, it can affect their perception. Meaning that the audience can trust the cameras, but Kaylee and Tom can't really. It's in their heads and can affect EVERYTHING they see. The cameras were just a convenient device to show the audience the truth behind certain elements.

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I would say it was too late when she removed the covering at the auction house. The moment she uncovered it, they were doomed.

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They couldn't leave, the mirror had control of them, and thus they didn't have any rational thought or self control left.

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