6.3 Rating?? That's actually ridiculous
I'm really disappointed so many people on here can't enjoy this.
shareI'm really disappointed so many people on here can't enjoy this.
shareNot only that. Have you seen all the 1 star reviews? That's ridiculous. I get that many don't like musicals. But this movie, while it may not be a Masterpiece, it's very well made, the acting and singing are very good. It has a lot of production value, the costumes, the makeup, the scenary are all great. Come on peolpe! What's with the 1 star reviews? That's nonesense.
shareI'm not a big musical fan but I can appreciate a good one: (West side story, umbrellas of Cherbourg, 42nd Street,etc) Good musicals have one major thing in common: A recognizable tune you can hum ,whistle or sing. I could not hum a tune from this movie if my life depended on it. I watched this movie because of the cast. I found the plot pedestrian and wasted on the great cast. The production values were so so. Could have been better if the cast hadn't cost so much.What's ridiculous is that it got a rating as high as it did.
shareI could not hum a tune from this movie if my life depended on it.
The problem is with you, not with the movie. I can remember most of the music very well.This is so disingenuous it's ridiculous. share
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What don't you understand? You're lying by implying that you "remember most of the music very well" after one viewing, and being a total d0uche about it too, by suggesting anyone who doesn't is somehow deficient. I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who is clearly so gifted.
shareYou are being a total douche, and how is he lying by saying that he remembers most of the music very well? where is the lie? what the hell? and he is not saying that he is deficient because he cant remember the songs from the movie but it is his fault as oposed to him who can remember every song from the movie. You are being a d0uche
shareI think it has the second best beautiful music ever in the history of musical theater (Les Mis is first, though Into the Woods was a better movie since they hired people who could sing unlike Jackman and Crowe.)
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unlike Jackman and Crowe
You do realize that Jackman is an accomplished Broadway musical performer, and Russell began his career as a singer, yes?
Religion is like a rocking chair -- a lot of work to get nowhere.
So? A lot of people who can't sing have careers as singers. Yoko Ono has a career as a singer.
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Into the Woods isn't superior to anything, it's one of the most forgettable films I've seen in recent memory. Chris Pine and Anna Kendrick were miscast. None of the songs were good, or catchy. The film was soulless and you had to endure a boring plot. I think the beautiful thing about Les Miserable is the emotion behind the performances. Jackman won a golden globe! The whole cast performed very well.
Can't think of a single thing that was actually good about Into the Woods. Emily Blunt... not much else.
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I can remember most of the music very well.
It's always amusing to me when I see that particular brickbat thrown at Sondheim. "Oh, he writes great lyrics, but nobody can hum his tunes." Srsly? I find it's his tunes that stick with me the most, though his lyrics are of course among the most brilliant ever written. And I can hum all his tunes quite easily, thank you very much.
Sondheim's aware of this silly criticism, of course, and pokes fun at it in Merrily We Roll Along. Its budding tune smiths are put off by a producer who, when they finish singing things to him from their new musical, sings in reply:
That's great, that's swell,Of course, he sings it to the tune of the song they just performed for him.
The other ones as well.
It isn't every day
You get a score this strong.
But fellas, if I may,
There's only one thing wrong.
There's not a tune you can hum.
There's not a tune that goes 'bum bum bum de dum'.
Ya need a tune that goes 'bum bum bum de dum'.
Give 'em a melody!
But that's just not a humamah mumamha
Humable melody.
I've always thought that the idea that songs ALWAYS have to have "recognizeable" tune for it to be good is a fairly shallow way of viewing music. Into the Woods has been going strong in the theatre community for thirty years because of the unconventional ways Sondheim utilises his music. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
shareI've always thought that the idea that songs ALWAYS have to have "recognizeable" tune for it to be good is a fairly shallow way of viewing music
Completely agree.
share1 star ratings are indeed ridiculous, but the 6.3 rating is the other ridiculous extreme. It should be smack in the middle.
shareNo... 10 would be the other ridiculous extreme. "Smack in the middle" would be 5.5, so 6.3 is only marginally above that.
shareFrom what I've seen, it barely deserves 3 stars. I didn't rate it though because I couldn't manage to sit through it.
shareAt least you are honest - about your view and that you didn't see all of it. I suspect that many of these one star reviews are similar to the ones on some of the other genre movies that inspire angry trolls: DC vs.Marvel or specific actors. People who dislike a franchise or an actor will not see a movie, rate it a one just to bring down the rating, post horrible reviews (with no specifics to show that they actually viewed the movie) and start trolling the boards. It's unfortunate, but welcome to the Internet.
I'm not saying that honest critique should not be on these Boards; some movies are honestly stinkers, some actors can't act their way out of a paper bag open on one end and some some singers can't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid....
It has a lot of production value
the costumes, the makeupJohnny Depp looked ridiculous!
He was SUPPOSED to look ridiculous. That part is a comedic scene.
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I get that but even as a caricature, it didn't work IMHO.
I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!
I am a huge fan of musicals but IMHO this one missed the mark.
There was something missing from the characters that made me not care for any of them--well except the witch.
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
The costumes, lighting, makeup, and actors were great. I think Meryl Streep stole the show. However, the music was awful and the singing was worse. The tales were classics, so they were a bit dull to watch again. I guess different strokes for different folks.
I found the rhythm for "into the woods" fast and the music and singing shrill... and certainly didn't fit the mood... and the words hardly rhymed or had any emotional impact. It was painful to hear some words shoehorned into a beat and others stretched out like "journey" as "jouuur - knee." They nearly made it 3 or 4 syllables. I applaud the cast's vocal ability, but it was a bore to watch and worse to listen to -- I've found Italian operas more enjoyable -- and I typically don't enjoy opera. Really, the first half to 2/3 of the movie was forced dialogue sung in a fast sharp tempo. Then, suddenly we get a large stretch of normal speech. I thought the singing was boring, but the dialogue after was pretty bad, too. And then the singing started again... and I wasn't sure which was worse.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the movie, but it's just not for me. My idea of a great musical is something like "Little Shop of Horrors" -- memorable music, acting, comedy, storyline... and a much better mix of dialogue and music. More varied musical numbers w/ catchy tunes I can sing after the movie as well. Disney usually gets the musical animated movies down perfect -- "The Little Mermaid" was a favorite. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was a wonderful musical. (The Candy Man, I've got a Golden Ticket, Pure Imagination, Cheer up Charlie, I Want it Now, etc.... lots of great songs that fit the tone of the moment in the movie)
This... This was not a great movie. It was not a good movie. It wasn't even a good musical for those that like musicals. I've seen better musical plays at the Charleston, SC Spoleto Festival.
I watched the entire flick, and I have to say I enjoyed some rather B-rate Brothers Grimm movies more as they at least had a different take on some old stories. I gave it a 1 star rating - because it deserves it. Such a waste of talented actors and my time.
If you say the lyrics hardly rhymed, then you weren't listening. Stephen Sondheim is an acclaimed songwriter known for his clever and intricate rhymes, among other things.
Also, you speak of other Disney musicals that were written specifically for Disney. This is a multi-award winning Broadway musical that was adapted to film. You don't have to like the music, but the score clearly has staying power.
This was the worst movie I have ever seen. I actually left the theatre early. No plot, horrible acting and everyone singing should not have been singing. Everyone involved in this crapvest should be shot.
shareIf you think there's no plot than you didn't pay attention, the acting was spot on and everyone could sing except Johnny Depp. If this is the worst movie you've seen I'd be interested to know what the best movie is you've seen.
shareThis was the worst movie you've ever seen? What are some other terrible ones? Lord of the Rings? 12 Angry Men? If this is really the worst movie you've ever seen, you need to see some more films.
There was a plot. Do I really have to spell it out for you? A baker and his wife are sent by a witch to fetch her ingredients for a potion. Along the way, they run into various fairy tale characters, all dealing with their own stories. Along the way, each character has to learn that their actions have consequences.
Horrible acting? Meryl Streep? Nineteen-time Oscar nominee? Who would you deem as a "good" actor? Again I say, you need to see more films.
Everyone was singing...wow, oh wow. Okay, time for a little edumacation. You may not be aware of this, but there exists in this world a little thing called "musicals." These "musicals" are productions - often on stage, but sometimes on screen - in which elements of song and dance are incorporated into the narrative. This means that, in musicals, characters will often sing.
Now, once upon a time, Into the Woods was a small little musical on BROADWAY (a little hobbled-down shack that is the CENTRAL HUB FOR STAGE MUSICALS) where it was nominated for TEN Tony awards (those are basically the Oscars for Broadway). So your point that the singing should have been omitted is somewhat lacking in any knowledge whatsoever. Wait a minute! It even won the Tony award for Best Book (that's theater-people speak for "script" or "story" or "plot"). Now remind me what you were saying about "no plot"?
Let's see..."no plot, horrible acting[,] [Oxford commas are your friends, by the way] and everyone singing should not have been singing." Yep, your exhaustively researched and well-grounded criticisms certainly have credence. Good on you, buddy.
Oh, and *crapfest
Exactly what does "no plot" mean?
shareI'm going out on a limb here, but I think they are saying that the film was lacking a plot with any meaningful depth . Bear in mind, I've only been speaking English for fifty plus years, so I might have missed the intense, almost mind blowing subtlety of "no plot". To reiterate through comparison: Were one to say to you that you had no brain, would you assume they actually thought you were inexplicably missing a major component of human anatomy, or would you, rather, understand they were exaggerating for effect and simply stating that you are a little slow in understanding hyperbole? Would you need a road map, perhaps? Even maps are not "exact". Get a clue? Paper thin, transparent, amateurish, trope-filled or even barely existent plot? That's how I would read "no plot" and, to reflect on the above comparison, "no brain".
shareI agree, I can't believe such amazing actors were in this movie! I love musicals and I love most of the cast - I was quite stunned actually at how bad this movie was as were my children. Awful movie. So bad it was almost funny. We kept thinking we were missing something however it would seem we were not. It just really was THAT bad.
shareThis movie wasn't meant for children. It's higher art intended for adults only as is the stage play upon which the film is based.
shareUm, I'm a child and I'm in my fifties. My Mom didn't go to this movie with me, but I did take my children, one of whom is eighteen. Exactly, WHICH age do you feel is the target audience?
shareI have never understood people who go to a movie and leave early. Why did you spend money on a movie that you probably didn't know anything about? If you didn't like the music you're not a Steven Sondheim fan. So don't go to a Steven Sondheim musical. If you're not a fan of musicals at all, why did you buy a ticket for a musical? that you're just going to walk out on anyway? I don't people like you., I really don't. Idiots.
sharePerhaps they do like musicals, and wanted to see a new musical.
Perhaps they knew they liked musicals (see above) but had never seen a Sondheim musical; they wanted to know what his musicals are like.
Perhaps the leaving early had nothing to do with their like or dislike of musicals. It's possible they just thought it was a terrible musical film, or a terrible film, or they found out (by experiencing it for the first time) that you are in fact correct - they are not Sondheim fans.
Perhaps you shouldn't assume people are idiots.
i totally agree, it was a waste of time watching this movie
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please go die in the crap whole where you came from.
Are you too stupid
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Well, this appeals to some and not to others. For me, it was very 'meh'. Meryl did NOT at all deserve an oscar nod, but the set and visuals were impressive, and the twists were rather interesting, thought the movie itself I would not really consider very good.
"We all go a little mad sometimes..." - Norman Bates
"Meh" is fine. You're not giving a 1 to a "Meh" movie, are you? There are many, many movies that I have really disliked for one reason or another, yet I haven't given a 1 star to any of them. Maybe I'm an optimist but I always try to find something good even if I hated the movie. Maybe the cinematography was great, or the sets, or some actor gave a good performance, or the guy is cute, or there was a nice dog, or whatever. Considering all that I have given some movies a 3 or a 4, but never a 1.
shareWell actually a 1 is giving credit for something, however small that is. 1 is a valid score, whether you choose to use it or not. Otherwise the scale would start at like 3 or something.
I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!
No a "1" is reserved for a movie you found nothing liked about the movie at all. IMDB doesn't have a 0 score.
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No a "1" is reserved for a movie you found nothing liked about the movie at all. IMDB doesn't have a 0 score.
Holy smokes! Check out the reviews on this site. Nothing over a 1.
shareThere are many reviews over a 1, but they tended to come in the first few weeks of the film's run. Then the campaign against the film, led mostly by angry parents who don't think Disney should make a movie like this, and people who somehow missed that it was a musical, began.
shareIt's reputation will improve as the years pass. Sondheim music alone makes a film worth seeing. The negative reactions here mostly stem from mass audiences mislead by the marketing campaign and walking in to it not knowing it was a musical, having their simple-minded expectations deflated.
I do think that some of the actors oversing their numbers (especially Kendrick) like they're trying to reach stage audiences in the upper balconies, and one of the main reasons Sweeney Todd works better is because the actors take a more gentle approach to their singing instead of forcing it in to the upper registers. But the complaints about the darker turn in the second half of Into The Woods are completely misguided and basically demonstrate that audiences weren't even making an attempt to grapple with the subversive points Sondheim was making about how fairy tales distort and warp our attitudes and idealized expectations. It also shows they do not know very much about fairly tale traditions of the pre-Disney era, which were a lot more sinister and gloomy than anything 21st century children have been exposed to.
The fact that it works a little to undermine childhood innocence isn't a criticism, it's precisely the point. To see so many people reacting against that is a sign of the worst sort of reactionary conservatism.
Sondheim music alone makes a film worth seeing.
The fiddling muzak
Gershwinesque, with the limited orchestrations available in your usual Broadway production?
shareYou don't need every orchestral instrument available to recognize angular harmonies and intricate melodies, although there was a 53-piece orchestral recording of it conducted by Paul Gemignani in London.
shareI absolutely agree with you. I personally loved that they used so much elements from original fairytales, first of all because I wasn't expecting it. The added more modern pedophilia innuendo was really funny and on point, it went very well with the old school lessons from the fairytales. I even liked the little Disney nod with the Rapunzel story.
While I wouldn't rate it 10, most of the criticism it gets isn't on point at all.