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another man-hating film where the girl kills all the boys

posted 12 years ago by LatvNetworks
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Any other guys tired of castration scenes? Even when voilence against women is protrayed on film, you hardly ever see it on screen, it's always cut away before the graphic stuff happens (watch Hostel 2) but violence against men is totally fine. Im over it

[–] TheCountDracula 11 years ago

"Any other guys tired of castration scenes?" Not really.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire

[–] bittybrownie 11 years ago

This isn't a man-hating film because the girl kills all the boys or because there is violence against men in it. Using that logic this is a woman-hating film because the boys kill several women and there is violence against women in it.

It's quite telling that it seems your example of misandry is a woman killing male serial killers.

[–] ritzcarltonRE 11 years ago

Exactly, bittybrownie...the whole point (from the trailer) is that Abigail Breslin is sent/trained to STOP the four boys who are killing the young women (Abigail's character is clearly not the first)...She is not some random woman trained to kill random men for the fun of killing men--she is a trained assassin who happens to be a woman sent to kill sadistic, psychopathic murderers who happen to be men. Her femininity is her MASK...it is what allows her to stop them.

The other posters talking about misandry are way off base, as you say. If a woman killing a man is always fraught with hatred of ALL men, then this is casting too wide a net...

Seriously...if they had sent a gay character, or someone played by Sharon Needles or Janet Mock or Laverne Cox to kill the young men, is that a case of Heterophobia or Cisgenderphobia...please! (Again, not you bittybrownie, to whom I attribute this last paragraph, but to the other posters within the thread)

[–] C.S.Wood 11 years ago

another man-hating film where the girl kills all the boys

Although others have already pointed out the fallacy in this logic, what do you expect? The average serial killer is male and their victims tend to be female because they want to dominate/rape them. And the only reason there's a group of killers is so the movie doesn't end too quickly when the main character starts to off them.

It's not about "man hating", it's about making an interesting horror concept. It's basically Little Red Riding hood if there were multiple wolves and the girl knew what the wolves were up to from the start and prepared herself to kill them first. And it's not like the killers could have included a woman on their team.

And I feel this is also taking into account that 90% of horror films are about a female protagonist because a general audience fears for a woman in danger moreso than a man. Make this about a man hunting a group of female killers and it becomes far less interesting.

Don't try to cash in love, that check will always bounce.

[–] imatosser182 10 years ago

"Make this about a man hunting a group of female killers and it becomes far less interesting".

No just far less PC

[–] C.S.Wood 10 years ago

"Make this about a man hunting a group of female killers and it becomes far less interesting".

No just far less PC

You mean because we'd see a man killing women? No, that's not it, and if you think it is you don't understand horror. It would be like making a vampire movie where the vampire is the good guy and the humans are the bad guys and expecting us to fear for the character with superior strength. It wouldn't be scary and would border on comedy.

First of all, no one would take the man seriously because of gender roles. A man running away from a group of women will not illicit sympathy from most people. He will be seen as weak.

Secondly, you'd have to masculinize the women in order to make them threatening, in which case they might as well be men. Not that it couldn't work, but you would have a huge uphill battle with making them a convincing threat without making the guy look like a wimp.

The only way to do it would be to make the man a child and the women some kind of supernatural creatures like witches or some kind of non-human monster. That's if it's straight up slasher/horror.

The only other alternative is when it's a Fatal Attraction type of thriller where the woman is using society perception (seemingly innocent female vs seemingly abusive male) to ruin his life vs trying to stab him for 90 minutes.

The only OTHER OTHER alternative is if both antagonist and protagonist are female (the French film Inside comes to mind). But taking a setup like Final Girl suggests and flipping the genders wouldn't work not because it would be "too PC" but because no one would buy into it.

Revenge is the most important meal of the day.

[–] mahou_fancy_lala 10 years ago

Another stupid MRA loser whining. If you actually take a look at all the violence inflicted upon women in TV and movies throughout cinematic history in comparison to that of men then you'll realize how wrong you are. The truth is, both the female protagonist and the male antagonists are not "heroes" in this movie. In fact, the guys are already killers and the girl is inflicting revenge (for another). You don't necessarily root for Breslin's character.

[–] mickeyagrawal2001 10 years ago

Just like that Jurassic series...these people are racist...speciest..

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[–] crankyerma1984 10 years ago

This really wasn't a man hating film. Just a poorly made one. I would be the first to call someone out on a film with a hateful point of view. However, this was not that kind of movie. It was simply the poopy kind.

[–] soupphysics 10 years ago

Get there though.

[–] fountainclown-12370 10 years ago

Panquakes - I agree! And as stated previously the rape as plot device is way more disturbing! Rape destroys a persons soul - it doesn't happen to motivate a 'heroic male character' to seek revenge..