Shelby's office door locked from the outside so that people could be locked inside his office? WTF, had the producers never used a door before? Actually, that whole locking Beebe in an office probably never happened.
shareTHATS HOWYOU KEEP YOUR "DATES" FROM LEAVING WHILE THE "PARTY ENHANCERS" TAKE EFFECT.
shareI just assumed he had rigged it up on purpose ahead of time.
shareThe whole conflict between Shelby and the Ford management was completely contrived BS to begin with. Shelby was very much doing all they ask when they asked, even when it resulted in them losing races. I suggest you watch Shelby America on Netflix for a more accurate account of Shelby and his involvement with Ford during the 60's. You'll quickly see some of the many liberties they took. It's an interesting documentary but unless you are a die hard motor head I wouldn't watch it beyond the GT40 time period, the later part of the documentary paints a rather glossy story of Shelby's later years and ignores some of the things he did that has caused many former fans of his to consider him a lawyer happy douche bag.
shareHave YOU never used a door before? How do you lock the door when you leave your home? From the inside and the jump out the window?
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What? Of course you can. I could lock you into my house without any change to the lock. You would need a key to unlock the door. What do you imagine all locks have those nobs to turn from the inside? Do you live in some sanitarium or something?
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well , thats seems to be a blindingly obvious safety measure that has somehow passed by UK building / fire safety standards!
Its crossed my mind how hard it would be to kick my door or frame out from the inside if there was a fire, and it wouldnt be easy.
Everybody (nearly) in the UK has a double glazed UPVC door which has multiple locking point up and down it which are manipulated by waggling the door handle all the way up/down . once set you turn key and door is locked or unlocked . It operates exactly the same way from either side!
One advantage meaning you get locked out less often as you need key to lock it on way out.
Prior to this in the 70s and 80s everyone had a "yale" latch type lock that would push shut and lock, you could undo with the latch from the inside , but you better have your key if you went out!
These could be shouldered open by an 8 yr old so were pretty insecure , many people added "mortice" type locks that effectively added all the same issues we have now.
A modern door with latches to open from the insides would cost a fortune .
This all of course leads to people leaving their keys in the lock on the inside ready for use.
Very handy for car thieves wishing to take advantage of the worlds dumbest "security" feature - Keyless Entry.
I cannot believe that car manufacturers have totoally lost the concept of what a key is for , and replaced it with an electronic do dah that is dead set on unlocking your car 24/7 for whoever the jell wants it - to the extent that you have to lock the little fucker in a tin box at night to thwart it.
I live in Europe. I cannot believe there are no proper locks in US. But i think its just you who is being obviuosly stupid.
>how would you lock your doors at night with you inside and then get out in the morning?
Thats what keys are for.
Keys are fine when you know where they are, or if you even have them. If a deadbolt is locked and a fire breaks out, what happens if someone panics and doesn't know if the keys are in the kitchen (maybe on fire?), or in a pants pocket or coat pocket , on a bedroom bureau somewhere, or perhaps fell out of someone's pocket and stuck between the couch cushions? Maybe the keys were mistakenly moved from the place they're normally kept.
You might be a guest in the house, and, even if you located the key ring, may have trouble finding the right key in a panic situation, particularly if there's smoke.
But yes, there are "proper locks" you can install if you desire a double keyed lockset as they are easily available in the States, but in most municipalities, a private residence won't pass code inspection if you go to sell it. Insurance companies may also have a say if there is a panic situation where people are locked inside.
And what happens if a fire breaks out near the door? You leave through the window. Or stop panicking and put down the fire.
One would assume people are not so retarded as to constantly loose their own keys.
If you are a guest and fire breaks one one would assume you wake the owner, no? Or do you regularly lock up your guests and leave?
Having a secure door causes problems for insurance. Only in the backwards land that is US....
And what happens if a fire breaks out near the door? You leave through the window.
Or stop panicking and put down the fire.
One would assume people are not so retarded as to constantly loose their own keys.
If you are a guest and fire breaks one one would assume you wake the owner, no?
>Oh, OK Superman. In the U.S., many buildings are more than one story high.
Which is why they have fire escapes near the windows.
>Oh, OK Frozone. Putting down a raging fire is easy. That's why there are no fire departments and no fire related deaths in the world.
Its clearly not a raging fire if you have time to figure out if you should look for keys.
>Oh, OK Einstein. Still, not everyone is as bright as you.
That is unfortunate.
>You might very well be the only person on the planet that has never misplaced keys. I'm impressed and amazed. But what about kids that get caught behind a double locked deadbolt? Would they know where the keys are? What if an adult is already overcome?
Of course they would know where the keys are? Doesnt your children?
>If the owner is already dead, or overcome by smoke, or is isolated by flames?
Then the fire has already progressed beyond the lock mattering.
Which is why they have fire escapes near the windows.
Then the fire has already progressed beyond the lock mattering.
Private homes arent high enough to need fire escapes. Three stories private homes are extremely rare. Commercial buildings have seperate staircases specifically for fire events actually. These are not normally avaiable to the public.
> The Crelin Place and Old Palmer Road incidents; the victims had keys to the deadbolt lock in their hands.
So finding the key clearly wasnt the issue, defeating your own claims.
Three stories private homes are extremely rare.
The Crelin Place and Old Palmer Road incidents; the victims had keys to the deadbolt lock in their hands.
So finding the key clearly wasnt the issue, defeating your own claims.
Colonial period houses in themselves are extremely rare. You live in a bubble. Also no, your house is two-storeys.
They did not die because they could not find the key, which is what you claimed. They would not have made it out because they never made it to the door itself in the first place.
If you are using the key every day for your house youll find the fight key blind and fit it in. Even in panic. Its muscle memory. You are arguing for the tiny rare cases to be a standard for everyones lowered security.
You know nothing about the U.S. when it comes to housing.
Colonial period houses in themselves are extremely rare. You live in a bubble. Also no, your house is two-storeys.
There is no reason other than stupidity not to implement modern safety features when building a house regardless of its style.
shareNot sure why being able to open a door from the inside would nake it less secure. As everyone else is saying here, I've never seen a home door that couldn't be opened from the inside by turning the deadbolt. Doors to homes are meant to keep unauthorized people out, not keep people trapped inside.
shareSo you never saw someone break a door window and unlock it with the hand inside? Not even in the movies?
And maybe its cultural ignorance from me but where do you live that you people are so stupid about home security?
I've lived all over the United States and every single house or apartment I've lived in had a front door that you could lock or unlock from the inside without a key.
I suppose you do have a point about door windows, though I don't think I've ever lived in a place that specifically had windows in or right around a door. Perhaps in those homes there's an extra safety measure, I really don't know.
I can confirm though that certainly many doors you just lock from the inside by turning the deadbolt and that's that.
Well, i suppose as usual americans cannot do even doors right.
shareWe tend to put more effort into things like putting men on the moon, inventing the Internet, and just generally being the most powerful nation on earth.
shareYes, you certainly put a lot of effort into your military programmes. The code for TCIP (that while internet runs on now) has been created by a brittish woman though. You did fund the creation of initial network via DARPA.
share"The code for TCIP (that while internet runs on now) has been created by a brittish woman though."
It's called TCP/IP and it's an American invention (Robert E. Kahn and Vinton Cerf are both Americans, and neither one of them is a woman), as is the internet itself.
Dalton, you are dead wrong. Just search “deadbolt keys both sides” on Amazon and you’ll find many like this. Of course screws on the interior to remove from inside
Probrico Double Side Keyed Deadbolt in Brushed Satin Nickel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016ZQ5I54/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ggL8EbHAG22V7
Yes, double keyed locks and deadbolts are available everywhere on the web and big box stores like Home Despot and Lowes, but are generally against codes in most municipalities for residential use, which is what Dalton mentioned.
Both my commercial buildings use double keyed deadbolts, and the few times I've locked myself inside after business hours, I've always kept my key ring in the deadbolt in case a hasty exit was required.
Every private home I've ever had had a turn knob on the interior door for both the knob/lockset and deadbolts. But even though they can be installed in private residences, they're generally a code violation.
“Yes, double keyed locks and deadbolts are available everywhere on the web and big box stores like Home Despot and Lowes, but are generally against codes in most municipalities for residential use, which is what Dalton mentioned.“
Many codes were much different and less safety conscious back then.
Yes, but I wasn't replying to the specific use of locks in this particular movie (still haven't seen it!, maybe tonight) but to the current codes regarding use of double keyed deadbolts in a residential situation.
sharewhy then did you reply to me in the first place? I was just refuting what Dalton said. He said “all residential exterior doors”. He did not say most. “All” is simply not true.
Anyway, all is well, it’s a fine movie.
Haha. You're an idiot.
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