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Boring (with Zero rewatchability)

posted 7 years ago by dolemite72 (150)
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Loved the original (watched it yesterday morning, before venturing off to the cinema to see this) several moviegoers were literally snoring throughout. I managed to stay awake (but wish I hadn't)
Where to begin:

The plot was garbage (wafer-thin, but peppered with inane pointless details that added up to nothing)

Gossling was his usual bland self (why on earth studios cast him, is obviously beyond me?) he manages to fluff a character that's not even meant to show great range ('being bland' and 'playing bland' are two different things) Harrison Ford was equally useless (whatever 'talent' he once had, has abandoned him over a decade ago) he looked (suitably) embarrassed.

The brief inclusion of a clip of Sean young, highlighted the fact, that they clearly don't make femme fatales like they used to. Resulting in the (so-called) 'actresses' in this, looking like 12 year old girls (playing with 'make-up')

Even the visuals were poor (the one thing I thought they might of had a chance of matching or even eclipsing)

Blade Runner 2049 is a boring, ugly film (that had no right being made....regardless of what you thought of it?) I'd love to say that I begrudgingly enjoyed something about it (but I can't) I'd also add that anyone claiming to enjoy it, is clearly lying to themselves (or has extremely poor taste in cinema) Every aspect that made the original such a classic was absent here?

[–] Nicko's Nose (1651) 7 years ago

“Hey dudes I didn’t like this movie, so anyone who says they liked it is probably lying to themself”

If you can’t see how stupid this sounds then I feel sorry for you.

Why do morons like you think that just because you didn’t like a movie means that no one could possibly genuinely like it? Do you have some kind of mental disability?

[–] dolemite72 (150) 7 years ago

Nicko's Nose
Gotta love the delicious irony of your post.....in which you claim that people should not be judgemental about others for liking (or not liking a movie) before going on to call anyone that does.....a moron (with 'mental disabilities')

I'll tell you what (and this goes out to any other delluded fan of this terrible movie) please explain what was so good about:
A) The Plot
B) The performances
C) The cast

......Before just blindly calling it a masterpiece (like most modern moviegoers seem to do over the most mediocre of movies these days?)

[–] Renovatio (2990) 7 years ago

here is my take on why this movie is solid, but first i have to say it has little to do wit A, B or C... That's not what this kind of movie is about...

this movie is not about storyline or plot... it's about mood and atmosphere, and as a secondary aspect about contemplating the big existential questions of our lives, why are we here, what makes us human, what is our purpose, etc...

The performances are understated percisely for this reason... The slowness of the movie, the static cinematography, the lack of exposition and dialogue, all serve to give us space to contemplate as these themes are explored through the film's situations.. it's all done on purpose...

There is a "short" thread on this forum where a few posters discuss this a bit more... maybe it'll help you see why some people like this movie and why it might be necessary for the plot to be thin and the acting low key... here it is...

https://moviechat.org/tt1856101/Blade-Runner-2049/59d86d13e86a2200124fceb6/Great-visuals-and-sounds-but-not-enough-to-save-the-plot-and-characters?reply=59dac5c6afe771001233632e

And yes, there are deluded fanboys insisting that this is better than the original and there are movie "critics" who are hysterically cheerleading this movie out of fear of repeating their predecessors mistake with the original as well as just trying to seem relevant... that exists too, but the movie is solid, it's just not THAT kind of movie... it has more in common with a Terrence Malik movie like Tree of Life, or with a book like The Stranger by Camus then it does your usual space fantasy like StarWars and such...

It has been a pretty slow year movie-wise, but as the festival & oscar season movies start coming out I think people will calm down a bit about Blade Runner 2049... However, I do think that the backlash against Blade Runner 2049 is misplaced... A lot of people are looking for plot, incedent, action or dramatic performance... it's not that kind of movie and doesn't set out to be...

[–] maximmm (3338) 7 years ago

I thought the first film was so-so but with awesome visuals. This film is pretty much the same (though the visuals... aren't as impressive as they were in the first film).

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

I agree with the femme fatale comment, no such thing exists anymore, just talentless whores. It makes you long for the non existent career of Sean Young, why did Hollywood had to dispose of her?

[–] R_Kane (15828) 7 years ago

Eva Greene could do a classic femme fatale.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

I used to like her but then I saw that tim burton vampire movie and she made the most godawful faces, made me realize she is ugly and untalented, so no.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 7 years ago

I saw that movie. I also saw Sin City: A Dame to Kill For, where she played a literal femme fatale and she fucking rocked. You arrogate far too much to yourself. I stand by my observation. You are free to believe as you want.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 7 years ago

arrogate? what do you mean? I also saw A Dame To Kill For, I thought she was great initially, now I think she was terrible with the way she talked and her flat tutankhamun style skull.

[–] Renovatio (2990) 7 years ago

She'd be great as femme fatale... She made Casino Royale...

[–] CyberVerm (117) 7 years ago

Pretty much think the opposite as you. I never loved the first one, gave it too many chances, theatrical, director's final cut. I appreciate it and respect what it did for future sci fi, I love many shows, movies, writings, etc. That exist thanks to this movie. The movie in itself is not very good, very boring at times, Daryl Hannah flipping around for no reason, Rutger Hauer over dramatizing every line he says, even the police captain looked ridiculous. My favorite part of the movie is James Edward Olmos.

I liked the shorts for the second film and the anime was fantastic but what really got to me was the actual sequel. I fell in love with this movie. The main actor could have been anyone, he is a replicant, who cares who plays him, a piece of wood would give out a similar performance to Ryan Gosling but the movie just drew me in, I loved it, I thought Harrison Ford hasn't given a good performance like this in ages, mckenzie james was great good, Ana De Armas is beautiful (as pretty if not prettier than young) so it I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I will also say this. Harrison Ford's performance in the original Blade Runner is just as bad/wooden as Ryan Gosling in here. No one ever really confused Harrison Ford with a great actor back in the day, he was just a good looking "man's man" kinda guy, he didn't start getting respect for his acting until later on in his career.

[–] DaveBowman2001 (517) 7 years ago

You put the answer right in your own post "he manages to fluff ......" Weinstein?

[–] rabksaj (3) 7 years ago

yes i absoultley agree with you. i was hoping to watch this in cinema in 3d but after watching a poor copy of it i noticed it lacked what i was hoping for it hardly had any action and the story sucked. The music was thrash no where as pleasing as the first movie which is also extremely boring to watch.

[–] Arcturus (10) 7 years ago

Completely disagree. For me it was a respectful, evocative and extremely distinctive film. It's very rare one can say that about a big-budget sci-fi...

If you maintain that anyone who thinks this way is either deluding themselves, or has appalling taste in cinema, then you really need to take a step back and consider the idea that you're talking out of your anus...

[–] dolemite72 (150) 7 years ago

You clearly ARE deluding yourself and have zero taste in cinema (if you like this shite)

Now be told.

[–] Arcturus (10) 7 years ago

You're a simple guy. No harm in that I guess...