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Solid Alien entry let down by woke and misguided fan-service


The plot and world-building are great, then we meet the characters. Spaeny’s Ripley rip-off is likeable and Andy her android brother is sympathetic. The other characters though are all various degrees of annoying, compare this to the memorable characters in Aliens. Even Hudson - an annoying jerk - is awesome.

This lot were obnoxious, and of course the one straight white male was an evil asshole, constantly bullying the loveable negro android 🤦🏻‍♂️

Fede Alvarez also inserts pro-illegal immigration propaganda with our ‘heroes’ a bunch of young people from a miserable ‘third world’ existence who want to make it to the promised planet. Of course, none of them are the violent criminals and rapists that account for all too many contemporary illegal immigrants, and the film doesn’t show how flooding into a better world ends up destroying that world as we’re seeing in the West.

What almost tanks the whole film is the woefully bad CGI used to resurrect a familiar face from the Alien world. In a film that does many things right, especially when it comes to visuals, I cannot believe how badly they dropped the ball here. It rips you right out of the movie.

Forcing in ‘get away from her you bitch!’ is another painfully misjudged attempt at fan ‘service’ (which will likely only irritate fans)

I appreciated some linkage to Prometheus and Covenant as those (better) films needed some kind of bridge to the Alien saga. It was a bit forced but I was happy to see it. Say what you want about Ridley’s prequels, they at least allow for some invention in a franchise whose main beast has been done to death. The hideous new birth at the end was compelling in its horrific novelty.

Action scenes are done really well, and the film finds new ways to make the aliens menacing. Crawling through acid blood globules in zero-G was inspired.

I give the film 6.5/10, it’s better than Resurrection and the awful AvP films. If you’re going to watch it, make sure you don’t pay for it - never fund woke.



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Your post is too big I'm bored to read, can you summarize what was woke in this movie?

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No, I don’t pander to ADHD retards.

Read it or GTFO.

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I watched it, didn't pay for it.
Still want my money back, that's how derivative and useless was. 4.0 out of 10.

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I struggled to not fry some IQ points reading original author's post in full 👆 so I didnt finish it. So forgive me if any of this was already mentioned but:

Good movie 👍
Nothing woke in it, well I guess unless you're a hypersensitive retard with excessive feminine energy mixed inside an ostensibly man's body

It's probably at the bottom of the alien franchise if only because some of the others are better and it's definitely not the worst (Alien 3). Thankfully it didnt turn into some young adult zoomers in space saga and just stuck to Alien basics. I wast planning on watching it a second time but I started it, to fill in some pieces I missed and ended up finishing a second watch though. Good entry 🥤👽🍿.

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Excellent, another woke bitch salty that your stupid, insane, evil cult has been called out again.

I struggled to not fry some IQ points reading original author's post in ful

As if you have any IQ points to fry, you retarded little shitstain 🤣

Your place on the bitch-list is well earned: https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/66bff21be2b59409e700e862/If-Moviechat-was-Shawshank-prison

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wait didn't you already place me there or was that some other monolingual pasty sunburned beta chad? I got deja vu..

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You’ve been on the list for a while, no doubt you started squealing over someone calling out your sicko cult again, and earned your place alongside the other Sisters.

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you keep saying this but i'm not so sure.. i don't know about all this cult stuff

would it be a cult if i got together in groups, knelt down to worship a figurine of a man nailed to a cross shaped object while listening for instructions how to behave. taking orders from an old man in goofy pointy headed childish halloween costume, while murmouring hymns up to the sky, and forgiving recurring massive worldwide pedophilia scandals among its leaders with its child acolytes?

https://media.npr.org/assets/artslife/arts/2010/04/pope-0d11b0b238f4a596eb5567e2c45375278d23aa02.jpg?s=800&c=85&f=webp

i just want to make sure we're on the same page here

oink oink 🐷

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Certainly Islam is a grotesque death cult. Whether or not Christianity falls into cult status is debateable, but none of that detracts from the fact that you’re a brainless frothing drone for the evil cult of Woke.

Nice try but another fail.

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"debatable"? 😂🤣😂🤣 uh no if you can't decide on that obvious reality, then your idea of "cult" is meaningless. well at least you pegged one other religion correctly, but that's extremely likely to be from hate, not from legitimate consideration. so you get no points for that. sorry kiddo, stick to licking windows 👎😆

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Always funny when a clueless, retarded little shit thinks it has a brain or is in any position to educate others 🤣 You’re an indoctrinated cult victim incapable of independent thought, farting out prescribed talking points. You’re unfunny, sad, and obnoxious, and taking my time to correct you is an act of extraordinary generosity on my part.

Let’s get that straight up top.

Your ‘obvious reality’ is horseshit, it is indeed debatable whether Christianity, Buddhism or other peace-preaching religions which have survived millennia are ‘cults’. Christianity is a cornerstone of Western civilisation, and its tenets led to, among a host of positive developments in the West, the abolition of slavery. This is in stark contrast to Islam and the brutality and debasement of humans that it actively encourages.

Now, let’s see if that penetrates your indoctrination and gets through to what’s left of a brain. Or are you truly the jumped up, big ego, low IQ little turd you’ve showcased so far…

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You evaporated whatever attempt of a point he was trying to make there. No wonder that sock didn't attempt a response.

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Haha, yep.

Little shit waded in here swinging his little balls, calling me ‘a hypersensitive retard with excessive feminine energy mixed inside an ostensibly man's body’… and then ran away screaming the moment his BS was challenged 🤣

These wokies could save themselves so much humiliation if they just looked in the mirror first 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Fede Alvarez also inserts pro-illegal immigration propaganda with our ‘heroes’ a bunch of young people from a miserable ‘third world’ existence who want to make it to the promised planet. Of course, none of them are the violent criminals and rapists that account for all too many contemporary illegal immigrants, and the film doesn’t show how flooding into a better world ends up destroying that world as we’re seeing in the West.

Why are you assuming that a futuristic world on a planet that is not Earth follows the same structure as Earth? But also, you said that they are not criminals. Are you aware they were thieves?

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Why are you assuming that a futuristic world on a planet that is not Earth follows the same structure as Earth?

I’m not, the parallel is allegorical.


But also, you said that they are not criminals.

No, I said they were not ‘violent criminals and rapists’.

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Did they not kill?

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No.

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Another mess !

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I said while I was watching it that the wokeness was mild by today's standards and would probably go under the radar.

There's a good breakdown of the obnoxious woke shite in the comment section here. https://worthitorwoke.com/alien-romulus/

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That’s a great overview of the woke, thanks for sharing.

The reviewer is insane for granting it only 1% woke, dude can’t do his job.

Here’s John Logan’s full comment which sets the record straight:

99% based?

I am worried that the woke propaganda has reached a level of proficiency that it escapes the radar of reviewers, in this case of James’ (nice new picture by the way). Or perhaps James is more liberal than I am. I prefer not to consider the third alternative right now for the sake of maintaining hope.

Here are some woke/propaganda elements that annoyed the hell out of me after going to the movie blindly after seeing the ‘Based’ rating on WioW (which I can no longer trust so blindly after this incident):

[Spoilers below]

– DEI cast: Two leads: one is (body-positive?) female, the other is intellectually-challenged black. (Intersectionality checkboxes: female, black, disabled, and possibly body positive).

– DEI cast: 3 females, one of whom is potentially a non-heterosexual Asian with nearly shaven head, and the other one… Latino (?). A black android who is initially mentally limited who then becomes the most intelligent character. (Additional intersectionality checkboxes: gender (subtle), latino (?))

– Mary Sue lead with no depth of character, reminiscent of the girl-boss of Disney StarWars (with only a faint imitation of Sigourney Weaver’s depth of character and gravitas).

– White guys are either evil or weak (and insufferable)

– Posthumous subversion of Ian Holm—one of the most beloved characters (i.e., Bilbo in the ‘racist’ Lord of the Rings) has been digitally cast as an (old) evil white male. Very likely intended as raising the woke flag, symbolizing even death cannot prevent them from conquering an iconic character/actor/symbol/perceived enemy.

– A clumsy propaganda scene features a digital Ian Holm saying something along the lines of “The colonies were established through your labor; now we ‘humbly’ seek your assistance”—a reference to colonialism followed by some sort of apologetic plea.

– Magical black guy trope (e.g., see the 2024 movie “The American Society of Magical Negroes”) and a character arc based on overcoming it: The black android’s ‘prime directive’ is to make the Mary Sue happy. Then this evolved into competing the mission/serving the company, and finally, into doing ‘what is good for us’.

– The black android becomes the strongest and smartest character due to changing his previously limiting and oppressive slave mindset (i.e., his chip).

– Subliminal messaging: Many shots of the black android from below after he transcends his slavery to the Mary Sue. E.g., he is on high ground and looks down on the white male and female.

– Subliminal messaging: White guy kneels in front of the black android; it’s contorted—that is, this trope is plugged in without naturally blending into the story (also see, eg., Mandalorian); kneeling in that situation can hardly be justified, if at all.

On the other hand, the character arc of the black android is notable. Initially, he is a slave to Mary Sue, then to the corporation, and eventually, he begins to consider his own self-interest. Changing the chip in his head serves as a strong metaphor for altering a submissive mindset, leading to a more confident, successful, and respected individual. However, true freedom requires also shedding this overly logical mindset and reaching a compromise between compassion/altruism/submission and self-interest. If this was incorporated without the propaganda elements shoved down the throats of the audience, it would have been a good, memorable character arc and a much stronger role model.

And regardless of the propaganda elements, it is a bad movie that is merely a poor, soulless imitation of the Scott/Weaver’s Alien that feels like a teenage horror flick. This is also due to the ages of characters; there doesn’t seem to be a single adult in the movie except for the CGI-resurrected Ian Holm.

Thanks for reading. As a note: I understand why WioW has audience ratings and I appreciate it. However, to get a meaningful sample, one must wait at least a week or so until enough people have seen the movie and given Disney/20CFox a substantial amount of money to fuel their further propaganda.

Disclaimer: I do not read the reviews on WioW beyond the Woke Elements section. (If I didn’t see the movie, I don’t want to spoil it, and if I have already seen the movie, I don’t feel the need to read the script.)

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"What almost tanks the whole film is the woefully bad CGI used to resurrect a familiar face from the Alien world. In a film that does many things right, especially when it comes to visuals, I cannot believe how badly they dropped the ball here. It rips you right out of the movie."

**This. Was that practical or AI/CGI effects? There was a potent uncanny-valley I couldnt get past while watching his face.



"If you’re going to watch it, make sure you don’t pay for it - never fund woke."

**Luckily someone uploaded it to YouTube the other night. Dont know if its still there.

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Was that practical or AI/CGI effects? There was a potent uncanny-valley I couldnt get past while watching his face.

It was CGI, terrible CGI, they basically used a computer to stretch Ian Holm’s face over a puppet like a stocking. It made the famously ropey effects in Alien 3 look like next gen AI.

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