Am I the only one who's annoyed with Vic? I really loved her in season 1 when she seemed more like a witty daughter like co-worker. I really dislike the love interest for Walt from her, it's just so annoying.
shareI don't like Vic. Her character is important to the show but I don't like her.
sharei didn't really like her to begin with but now she's just obnoxious.
also, i don't like the actress that plays Vic, she was on 24 and she plays Vic exactly the same. bluh acting and annoying character.
I also preferred Walt and Vic in a "boss/understudy" type relationship. I do not like them as a romantic couple at all. She seems nothing like we hear his wife described, so it is hard to believe he would be interested in her. I know men can like a variety of women, but it seems there would be characteristics he would be drawn to, and I don't see them in Vic.
shareWalt is never going to find anyone like Martha, but she is dead. They married young, so it seems, and now he is older, Vic isn't that much younger then him, and maybe he enjoys her as a woman, a friend, a co-worker, who I feel he really respects, as he seems to always pick her to work along side of him more then he ever did Branch and Ferg. It isn't a stretch to think that he also holds more feelings for her, but before this season, she was married and he would never cross that line, but now she isn't, but this season, to me, showed how difficult that might actually be. To allow yourself to feel what you couldn't allow yourself to feel before.
shareI totally agree. Vic seems about the same age as his daughter and is at a different stage of life than Walt is. I think that the Doctor is a much better choice for a love interest for him and I thought it was very sweet how he pursued her in season four. She better not break his heart.
shareI agree it is so stereotypical of boss/co-worker relationships. Must be how relationships work in hollywood, screw the co-worker. I believe she is unlikable as a character because she is married, flirting with her boss, needy, and not a strong person. I like the actress, she was my favorite on Battle Star Galactica, where she had problems but was strong, character wise. This character is just so sad.
shareVic is the BOMB as far as I am concerned. First off, I can imagine her as an actual deputy..Unlike most other TV female law officers.
Some said she was weak. WTF?. Walt would not have her, in the vast emptiness of Wyoming (actually NMex) if she were weak. He trusts her and delegates to her without a second thought. Esp. In rural Wyoming.
Katee is a unique beauty and can definitely glam up when not in some marshals role..
I see little that is stereotypical. That's a big plus for this show but not the myriad of other cop shows on broadcast TV.
Recall the very attractive middle age women was putting moves on Walt in season 2 or 3.
But that is not the way he rolls. He was recovering very slowly from the death of his wife ...Plus he is old Old school. And very likely, if he ever hooked up again it would be with a -trusted and valued- acquaintance. Like Vic !
The story is set in the vast rural West, not some PC Campus police dept.
If you hate on Vic, please use your liberty and tune in Chicago Blue instead.
Episode 4 of season 4 was off the hook. I agree with an earlier poster.
I agree with you, why would people think she is weak!!!! Not making the greatest choices in relationships isn't being weak!
Since the very first episode, you see how Walt sees Vic as a very capable deputy, he doesn't treat her like some dainty flower or something. He treats her as a trusted co-worker. Someone he trusts with his life.
Season 4 made her seem different then the other three. There was so much stuff just left hanging in the whole storyline, I hope things make more sense in the next season. Walt needs to deal with his issues with Branch so he can start treating the rest of his employees like the capable people they are and not people ready to loose it.
"why would people think she is weak"
For me, it was the episode where Walt was out in a snowstorm and, instead of going looking for him, she fell into the floor in screaming crying hysterics. Not the first or last time she indulged in behavior unbecoming to an officer of the law.
In that snowstorm show, the FBI had taken over and had forbid Ferg or Vic from going out to join him.
Walt was the one who told her to leave and go get help. Or at least let others know what had happened. Maybe in that show it would have been smarter for Walt to wait for help to, as it was he almost froze to death.
Exactly! It doesn't have to do with how strong her body is I am talking about her character being weak. Only a good actress can pull off that character defect well. So cuddos on her performance. It's hard to continue to watch past S3 E5, but I am trying.
shareI actually enjoyed Vic until they started pushing her on Walt (the writers). It felt forced and desperate, which became on par with Vic's character. Now I can't stand her.
What a day! What a lovely day!
The writers were the ones who also "pushed" the character of Walt to be quiet, intelligent, courageous and loyal... with a few blind spots. All of which are character issues. And much like Vic, when you think about it. Perhaps their age difference is make or break for some viewers. But mostly I hear viewers who are sterling fans.
Besides, if the writers pushed for Vic to emulate Xena, Warrior Princess, the show would have failed long ago.. (season 4 as I write)
Vic is the BOMB as far as I am concerned. First off, I can imagine her as an actual deputy..Unlike most other TV female law officers.
I also like the Vic character though cannot say why. I keep waiting for her to kill that guy from Philly (I am halfway through season 3 right now). I think her attraction to Walt began as respect for him, sympathy for him, and a reaction to strong character.
I don't have a problem with her liking Walt. So far I have not seen her cross any lines with him though the thought has crossed her mind I think.
There are always things in television shows which are difficult to buy into; your experience of real life is bound to vary with the way the writers construct the story. And with cop shows, or law enforcement shows, or military shows, unless the actors involved have had some past experience in those fields, they simply cannot make it believable all the time. Also, sometimes writers have social agendas they add to their scripts, though with this series I cannot say I have picked up on any such agendas; that is partly why I enjoy it. It isn't about selling certain ideas, it isn't about social engineering, etc., it is just story telling. And it is set in the west, in the wide open west. Cowboys and Indians in a real life setting, showing them as real people instead of the old grade B caricatures.
Walt is a smart sheriff and a fair one too. I look forward to more of this show. They pretty much have to keep going as they cannot just leave things as they are. I want to see the conspiracy behind Walt's wife's murder and the subsequent murder of the meth head uncovered and exposed, and the guilty brought to justice.
I suppose they are going to drag that out a while longer, but I hope they resolve it and get on to another ongoing back story before too much longer.
I wish I had written that. NICE.
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so bollocks is bad, but dogs bollocks is good?
Thanks for the post, firstly.
Second, I could not disagree with you more. I wholeheartedly ship Vic and Walt. I enjoyed the romantic tension between the two the first few seasons, and have been disappointed by the lack thereof in season 4. I was upset it was never really brought up again, and was happy when Vic finally did in the last episode. I also do not understand why the writers would make Walt clearly express his interest in Vic (when he asked her to stay on at the department, and showed support of her divorce), then never follow it up with anything, AND sick some other woman on him. What happened to Walt's feelings for Vic? It would be nice if the writers addressed this before sicking this new love interest on him. I suspect this may have been done due to some viewers feeling uncomfortable about their age difference. I don't understand this either, as it's not like this is anything new for anyone to see. Older men go for younger women often. As long as they're consenting adults, why does their age difference matter? It's not like Walt is this lascivious man out to pray on young women. Walt as a character has, well, character, honor, and I think we'd all agree, is an overall man of quality. Robert Taylor is 52, so assuming the character he plays is supposed to be around his same age, and assuming Vic is supposed to be around the same as the actor who portrays her, that would mean there is a 17 year difference. While a 17 year age gap is not small, I think even those of you who are uncomfortable with their age gap would agree that as people grow older, differences in age become increasingly insignificant. If indeed Vic is supposed to be 35, it's not like she's a 21 year old or something. Being that she is technically near middle-age, I think it's perfectly fine that she date someone in their early 50's or late 40's. In fact, I predict she will do just that. I think whoever broke into Walt's place will end up killing the Doc, so Walt will end up free to explore whatever is between Vic and he.
Bingo there tammy.
I am with you, I see them together sometime, and I didn't like how all of that was handled in season 4. I felt almost like I was watching a pilot of a new show, and we were all suppose to forget what had happened the three seasons before between Walt and Vic. I never felt the writers threw them together at all. Their age difference means nothing, if people are bothered by that, then I imagine they would be real shocked with the age difference in the books!
I do like how the relationship is done in the books though, as they are not married or live together. I remember when Omar said that Vic didn't seem domesticated to him! I agree, I don't see her married and taking care of a house or man sort of thing.
Guess we will have to see where the writers go over time. I would rather not see Walt married to anyone actually, but I think they also can't just forget that we did see three seasons where there was 'something' going on between him and Vic. Otherwise people are not watching close enough.
Once people reach adulthood age difference matters very little. And 17 years is not a big difference, so I can't see anyone objecting to them in a relationship for that reason. Will they hook up? I gather that in the book they do so it is a real possibility I guess. My impressions were that Walt was fond of Vic, but that he primarily saw himself as a father figure to her, a teacher to her, and he feels protective toward her. And I think he is surprised to find that she has feelings for him. It appeared to me that Walt's own feelings were somewhat confused about Vic. But he definitely seems fond of her.
But I think that he will have a really hard time allowing himself to act on any romantic feelings for her. He is a man of strong character and he is what people call "old school"; he understands that long established procedures and rules were laid down for good reasons. While he isn't ancient, he has lived long enough to gain insights into the wisdom of those precepts and maxims such as the one warning against dating someone you work with. In his case he doesn't merely work with Vic, he is her boss. There are plenty of ways that could cause problems. Given his nature, I think he would resist the urge to date Vic for this reason.
Of course people cannot control how strongly they become attracted to each other. The writers could have things between Walt and Vic heat up dramatically to the point that Walt throws caution to the wind. Though I think that would be a big departure from his deliberate and somewhat conservative manner. Still, those feelings have been smoldering there for both of them now for quite some time. The writers are playing with the idea, kind of teasing us. I have to think something is going to happen. Will they follow the book or take creative liberties? Vic might wind up finally opening up to Walt after almost losing him, feeling it would be unbearable if Walt were to die before she got up the nerve to tell him she loves him.
And if this happens, how will Walt respond? If he has had a close call, nearly died or something like that, he might be in that frame of mind which says "life can be over at any second, and I cannot put off loving the girl I have feelings for". They could write it that way.
Or not.
Somehow I think they will keep us waiting and guessing a while longer.
I like vic for the most part I just find where the writers are going with Walt n vice relationship annoying. Maybe the writers aren't doing a good job on how they are trying to bring this relationship up. I usually like the coworker tension (like in bones or the x files). Thanx for everyone's imputed though I thought I was the only person. Nice to know a few people agree with me. :-)
shareI hope that storyline is gone in season 5.
shareSomeone in a post above asked about if anyone noticed her using a Midwestern accent and below* is what I answered. Then I just happened to scroll down and find this thread and OMG -- I have met my people! I thought maybe it was just me being bitchy or something but I agree with most of y'all not really feeling it for this character. I think she's ruining the show a bit. Katee, are you getting this? Please note!
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I haven't noticed a new accent, just her strutting around and kind of flirty. She's definitely taken a new defiant attitude with Walt. She used to act more like a friend and a collegue but recently she's accusing Walt of all kinds of things she would've known better about in the past, acting like she knows more than anyone else, having little crying emotional breakdowns,
and/or pouting when she doesn't get her way.
Also, I think it's funny that in the first scene of Season 4 she's driving to see Walt, all glammed up (I didn't recognize her) but hasn't put a bit of makeup on since then. What, they don't have blusher and lipstick in Wyoming? Most women have an everyday toned-down look for work, she doesn't have to get all made up but even a little bit would help.
I don't really like the new Vic.
p.s. Then again, come to think about it, I wouldn't recognize a Midwestern accent because I'm in the Midwest, Ohio!
I'm afraid you are among a small minority. But thats okay.
shareIsn't Longmire based on a book series and in that series Vick and Walt hook up?
And Katee Sackhoff is HOT.
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If you don't like the show, stop watching it!
Yes, in the books they hook up. In the series it would destroy Longmire for myself.
They have absolutely no love chemistry together at all. I really hope they dont kill of the doc with this last scene. She clicks with him and they just work. Took me a while to realise that is Agent Stahl. One of my most despised movie characters. She is a great actor!
If she gets killed and then Vic is next in line with some office romance I am out of Longmire as much as I like the rest.
Just to play devil's advocate for a sec, I actually LIKE Walt and the Doc!
My observation about Vic over the years is that she (for whatever reason) seems to "need" to be with a man and has made some bad choices in that dept. over the years. She moved to Wyoming after an affair with another officer, ruined her marriage when she got there (partly because she just couldn't stop herself from wanting Walt) and now that he's (her husband) gone… it's "off to the races" after Longmire.
I DON'T think she's a weak woman and I DO think she's a very strong cop. I just think she makes bad choices where men are concerned because she's got some self-image issues she doesn't know how to deal with and instead of facing them, she just goes after another guy.
Walt, on the other hand, has his own set of issues. Some of which are clearly much darker than I think ANYONE expected them to be (after the High Noon ep.). But he's much slower off the starting line than Vic and I also think he sees himself with someone who is more like he is (a quiet, well-read, laid back, contemplative type) and Vic just isn't that gal. I do think he's confused about his feelings for her, but in the end… he opens himself up far more with the Dr. (love the actress by the way) than he would ever be able to with Vic. She's just too volatile and that's a part of himself he clearly works very hard to control because, as we have seen, when he loses it he loses it BIG TIME!
I think I'll be a bit disappointed if they put Walt and Vic together in the end. To me, it wouldn't ring true and I honestly believe he'd end up alone before he'd end up with her. If the writers create "the fairy tale" ending out of a dark, gritty, often painful series, then to me, that wouldn't do justice to the characters, the show or the viewers for that matter. This is a show where a man MURDERED HIS OWN SON… so to have Walt and Vic walk off into the sunset together would just feel forced and out of place. I actually expect a more ambiguous ending. I think we're going to be left with a lot of questions that just aren't going to be all neatly tied up. Longmire has never been that kind of show. Which is only one of many reasons I've enjoyed watching it.
After watching the last season final show last night, I would hope that Walt knows enough to not get involved that way with his staff.
shareAnd the same for Walt in regards to the Doctor........ for a serving officer of the law (using the generic terms for it) it is frowned upon to have any kind 'sexual' relationship' with either a victim of crime or indeed a perpetrator of crime.... in the UK - you are suspended first (pending investigation) and then sacked (fired if it was indeed confirmed that an improper liaison took place)) for misconduct......
A number of serving officers were sacked quite recently for doing exactly that!
I naturally assume that the US has the same moral and professional standards....
Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them
Yeah, I confess that I don't like cliff-hanger endings so I usually wait to watch the last episode of a season until the first episode of the next season has already come out. But I COMPLETELY agree that Walt should know better than to get involved with any of his subordinates. I genuinely believe he's more responsible than that. Which is part of what makes him a good leader.
"Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace." -Amelia Earhart
I'm with you, and the way the character has been portrayed on TV seems to support that concept of his level of judgment and responsibility.
BUT
Unfortunately, the show is based on books in which the character does in fact develop a relationship like that with his work partner/subordinate. So, I don't think we've got much hope.
Well that sucks more than my vacuum cleaner and I've got a pretty fab Dyson "Pet"… so "sucking" is it's raison detre'!
Hmmmm… I will say that although I HAVE really enjoyed the relationship between DCI Banks and Annie (departmental sacking notwithstanding) I really, really don't want to see Walt and Vic end up together. It would substantially lower my opinion of him and could even keep me from going back to the show, much as I hate to say it. On the other hand, some series do stray from their book origins from time to time so I'll hang in there until my disbelief is hanging by a thread, so to speak! ; - )
"Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace." -Amelia Earhart
Bravo, I couldn't have said it better myself, (which is not as lofty as it is meant to sound).
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