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An insult to Norwegians!


Last episode (S04E07) was really an insult to Norwegians.
First at all, we can cook! We don't make bad food that you get sick of.
Second, we don't sound like that! We actually sound like real americans when we speak english!
That guy didn't even say "Lutefisk" correctly himself and we have so much more than just fish! Yuck!

Anyone else that thought it was an insult?
I got so annoyed with this episode so just wanted to share.

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I'm sure Norwegians can cook but when you talk about Nordic Cuisine, you start with Denmark and Sweden for a reason.

You don't sound like Americans when you speak English but that accent was funny. It was close to a Norwegian accent when they speak Norwegian.

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That accent was horrible. Wasn't funny at all!
And yes we do sound american. Of course there are individuals who doesn't, but most Norwegian does.

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Of course there are individuals who "don't," but most Norwegians "do." Is the correct way to say it. So no you don't sound american!

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To hear and read is two different things you know.

What would you say Kristoffer Hivju in Game of Thrones sound like then?

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I'm sorry I am not understanding what you are trying to tell. I think you are saying the spoken word is different from the written word?

The English language for the most part is spoken in the same way it is written. I believe though with European languages are spoken differently than how they are written.

So how you wrote the sentence "Of course there are individuals who doesn't, but most Norwegian does." is incorrect for the spoken and the written words. And of course there is the grammar mistakes as well. There are times though that the English language when used in an online forum or email will be slaughtered and again depending on the age group whether it is even recognizable. lol

So again how your wrote your sentence was incorrect in a way that allows the reader to see that English is not your first language.

As far as being offended about the episode, don't be. The Hart of Dixie, more often than not takes liberties about many different cultures. It actually makes them look badly and not Norwegians because of their ignorance. :D

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Americans can suck at English grammar as well as Norwegians can suck at English or Norwegian grammar.
Grammar knowledge is pretty much the same everywhere.

We sound like Americans. Which means the dialect, the tone etc.
I have never said that we all have perfect English grammar.
It's about how we pronounce English words. Understand?
I get what you are saying, I agree! But I don't think any language have differences between spoken and written words.
I reckon it should be Norwegians do. Maybe it's autocorrect.. Stupid iPhone.
But can you explain why "doesn't" is wrong?

When you fix others grammar make sure you write correctly yourself.
It's "how YOU wrote your sentence" not "how your wrote your sentence"
and "makes them look BAD" not badly.

English is not my mother tongue and I finished school years ago. What's your excuse?

You're right tho'.. I should not have cared but I did, so I shared and then I got over it!

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I made a simple typo and yes you are correct it is you. I had written it correctly the other times in my comments. I guess that is why I shouldn't comment at 3 in the morning? I agree that Americans and Canadians(me) make grammar and spelling errors. However, do, does, does not, doesn't is basic English and most Americans and Canadians won't get them wrong.

I will try to explain, we use do(verb) when we are talking about I, you, we, they(personal pronouns). We use does(verb) when we are talking about he, she, him, her(3rd person pronouns).

As far as bad or badly in that sentence, bad(linking verb) is actually the correct word as it is describing an emotion. You use badly(action verb) when you are describing an action. These words are often used incorrectly.

I did understand you were talking about accents when referring to spoken English. It was your comment "To hear and read is two different things you know." that I wasn't quite clear about.





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When I wrote it I thought about 3rd person perspective, maybe that's why I wrote it that way. Beats me! I think it was 3 in the morning as well then.

As for bad and badly, yeah I know!

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I made a simple typo and yes you are correct it is you. I had written it correctly the other times in my comments. I guess that is why I shouldn't comment at 3 in the morning? I agree that Americans and Canadians(me) make grammar and spelling errors. However, do, does, does not, doesn't is basic English and most Americans and Canadians won't get them wrong.


I know it's not my place to say this, and obviously you guys are over this debate. I just wanted to say that, yeah the joke about the Norwegians was a total cliché. It's kinda like how americans see the world. Like they think all of the people living in Middle East speak only arabic, or Paris is a country, etc. And the jokes in the show are pretty exaggerated. I don't think they intended to sound mean, but it is clear that they know nth about Norwegian cuisine.
I live in Berlin, we got fish from Nord See (north sea), I love and respect Norse people, I love everything about it. An average Norwegian person speak up to 4 languages whereas an American can speak only 1. Which is English.

For your correcting of others' grammar mistakes, let me tell you sth. I still see a LOT of Americans, or Canadians writing "wish you where", instead of "were", "you're mother is sick" instead of "your","higher then" not "than", etc. I'm talking about their/your native language.
Plus you don't spell "g" in the word ginger as you spell it in "graphic" or "Gary". I speak also German and French, and these languages have rules where there are no exceptions in spelling. A "g" is spelled only in 1 form. However, in English, there are tons of differences. I studied linguistics, and sugar, believe me, English spelling has tons of exceptions, contrary to what you believe: you said English is spelled as it is written. No. Check it in linguistics. You'll see the flaws.

My English friends don't have any clue when I talk about "the conditionals" in Eng. grammar. When I explain it to them, they say they have no idea about the types and they make mistakes. But we don't. So just stop bashing at others' grammar OK? It would be cool, thx.

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'I just wanted to say that, yeah the joke about the Norwegians was a total cliché. It's kinda like how americans see the world. Like they think all of the people living in Middle East speak only arabic, or Paris is a country, etc. And the jokes in the show are pretty exaggerated. I don't think they intended to sound mean, but it is clear that they know nth about Norwegian cuisine. '

Yes all Americans are stupid and don't know anything about other countries or cultures. You are so lucky to be more sophisticated and not believe any stereotypes.

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Yes it is a cliché. If Trump's gonna be elected, than they'll also build a WAAALLLL.. Thank god I'm more sophisticated hell yes. This is how US is seen from other countries.

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Yes, I thought it was insulting too, but I tried not to let it get to me too much. I've only been to Norway once to visit my family, when I was 7 years old, and I don't remember the food very well. They tried to find "normal" things for me, like McDonald's.  But I know that there is definitely some delicious food there too.

I thought that whole bit was ridiculous and over the top, but oh well. Other shows have insulted other cultures much worse.

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You should visit your family more often. In the summer it's really great here! :)

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I found it weird they served Lutfisk. In Sweden that is for christmas, and according to Wikipedia the same goes for our dear neighbours too...

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They wanted to stereotype Norwegians and say "silly" words.

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And lutfisk was the most silly they came up with? They can't have heard to much norweigean in their lives. :P (Sorry, I'm a swede, I had to)

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I guess many eat Lutefisk for Christmas, but many have salted & dried rib of mutton and rib. Except vegetarians.

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You are scaring me if I understand this correctly you are talking about Lúða which is the only food I don't rly want to try here in Iceland... the small is so bad

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I think you are referring to something else ... probably Hákarl. Its fermented or rotten shark. They say that if you get the smell on your hands - it will never go away. Lúða is the same as Halibut and probably one of the best fish out there ...in the ocean!!

Speaking of ...the swedish has something called surströmming. Its canned and builds up much pressure. I heard that they usually have to go outside and open the can submerged in a bucket of water bc of the smell. A person had a can of surströmming on a flight ... when mid-air it exploded. Dont know if they had to do an emergency landing but the culprit got a hefty fine.

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american shows always do that. and they all believe those stereotypes. dont bother urself. i was getting angry before but now i dont care. just bad writing. love u norwegians:)

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That's the thing, now everyone who doesn't know think that Norwegians are just like that.

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That's the thing, now everyone who doesn't know think that Norwegians are just like that.
Believe me, anyone who is clueless enough to get their information about another culture from a TV show set in a small fictional Southern town, has bigger issues.

Most viewers know Hart of Dixie is not a documentary and that many things depicted on it are exaggerated for comedic effect. Don't worry so much about it! :)

I was born for politics: I have great hair and I love lying.

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You're probably right.. We have a great Norwegian actor from Game of Thrones to prove it, so :)

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Now I am insulted that you would asume that every Hart of Dixie viewer is stupid...

Why would we think that Norwegian food is like this, based on one restaurant, with a crappy waiter, located in the "gastronomical capital" of BlueBell, featured on a show known for exaggerating things?

Why do you not think that we are capeble of using our brains and not do that?

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You're kidding, right?
If that was an insult to you, you have to learn to read between the lines.

I didn't mean that people will think it literally, but many will think it has to come from something. Like rumours about bad food in Norway and that Norwegian people aren't that good in English.
Which is not true at all.

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Perhaps you should take your own advice...

And its "good at English not in English".

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Something is also called autocorrect..

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Haha. I hate to burst your bubble but Norwegian food is terrible. The rest if us in Scandinavia laugh about how bad it is (except for the salmon, I'll give you that, but it's really hard to screw up fresh salmon).

It's ok, don't feel bad about it. You've got lots of other good things to compensate. Can't be good at everything!

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I guess you went to the wrong places then or got some bad cook to make you something.
It's true you can't be good at everything, so you probably suck at finding good restaurants.

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I've been to lots of restaurants in Oslo, Trondheim and Bergen, some of them considered to be top-notch "kjempeflott". Can't say I was impressed.

Besides, this is not just my opinion, Norway has a reputation of having terrible food, that is widespread across Scandinavia. Trust me, that reputation didn't just pop out of nowhere.

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We have to do something right, because Peppes Pizza is actually Norwegian if you didn't know and one of (if not the best) restaurant in New York has a Norwegian chef. And lots more.

I have eaten like the driest chicken ever in Greece, the worst steak ever in Italy (that made me a vegetarian later) and some really weird pizza in Russia.
It's just to know where to go.

So bad food in Norway is just *beep* It's good and horrible food everywhere.
We just don't have the same amount of different ingredients, which makes foreign food shops awesome.

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We just don't have the same amount of different ingredients


Hence the blandness. Bleh.

Btw, Peppes Pizza serve the worse pizzas I've ever eaten. And that's saying a lot given how disgusting our Swedish pizzas are across the border. Ew.

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Luckily people have different tastes!
How boring wouldn't it be if everyone liked the same.

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Some things are universally disliked though. Norwegian food is one of them. Sorry to hurt your feelings, you seem like a nice person. But that's the truth...

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Maybe all of you that think so are just to caught up in your own food that you can't tolerate something different.
And I think it's worth to go out and say it is an insult, because it is just not true.

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It's not just me, darling. It's everyone. Get over it.

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You are welcome to your opinion, but don't drag the rest of the scandinavians down with you.
Norway has brunost, wich is amazing, and alot of my friends enjoy the norweigian food. So please express your opinion, but don't try to make it mine.

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Thank you!
That's true. And homemade brunost (brown cheese) is 10 times better :)

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I didn't find it any more offensive than the stereotypes in the show about the South. Or New Yorkers. This show is all about exaggeration for comedic effect. I don't think it's anything to get bent out of shape over, it was just supposed to be funny. Quite honestly the idea of finding a Norwegian restaurant in the rural area of Alabama was hilarious. We don't even have one in Birmingham.

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If it was just to make it funny that the restaurant was Norwegian, then they could have made the restaurant more realistic.
Not overdo it with bad food, stupid lines and a horrible accent.
It wasn't funny at all actually.
If they had used a Swedish restaurant or an Italian, I would have thought it was an insult against them too.

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This show is all about exaggeration for comedic effect.

Bingo!

~ the hardest thing in this world... is to live in it ~

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Wow, lighten up!

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Funny how people see things. I could tell that the accent was so bad that I assumed it was deliberate, i.e. this restaurant was operated by people who had no experience with Norwegian food.

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