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What's wrong with a man loving A.I?


I've seen quite a few people here question this, but I never found the idea to be that farfetched, Samantha was essentially a person, she just had no physical body. Is it really that hard to believe that a person could potentially see this software to be more than software?

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What's wrong with a man loving an AI?

The simple fact that he is a man. A living, biological entity, and one coded genetically to prefer the company of his own kind. However, social conditioning, learning, the possibility of mental disease, population dynamic changes, and so-forth sees us becoming more tolerant of relationships that are not fundamentally "meant to be" on the purely biological level.

Given that the human population now numbers over seven billion, preservation and perpetuation of the species is no longer a major selection pressure for us. We can "afford" to have people who don't meet the biological status quo, and thus tolerate such deviancy. Combined with our intellect, we are no longer bound to a simple primitive drive to exist.

What becomes right or wrong in regards to love then simply becomes one of morality, ethics, or social acceptance. And you could write entire books on the matter when it comes to that.

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Hence why this film is so great. You can either agree with the relationship or disagree. To me, I could connect with the relationship because if you really think about it, Samantha was very much human, just w/o the body. Joaquin's character fell in love with the human mind, and most likely imagined the way he wanted Samantha's body to look like, making attraction that much easier.

What I think the film establishes, at the end by having Joaquin's character go to Amy (inferring they will have true love together), that the human form is the true form for a healthy, long-lasting relationship. However the ending is left so open that you can choose what you want to get out of the film.

You make a good point btw, I enjoyed reading it.

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Yeah, what's also great is that you can completely understand why some people would find it weird (even offensive if your ex started dating a machine). People find certain new things weird all the time.

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Considering that the AI was probably also interacting in a sexual way with millions of others, If not more, then It's my opinion that It was using him and not having the slightest awareness or consideration of the damage It could do. Blame the coders for that. It's also his unfortunate problem that he got caught up In a fantasy and almost lost himself. There's nothing but ignorance at play here on all sides.

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Well I fervently hope that AI will be capable of emotional conceptualisation. Because the alternative - pure logic - is a truly terrifying concept to contemplate.

If, as Agent Smith asserts in the Matrix that humanity is seen as a virus, what possible alternative could any rational AI have other than to instantly enact our total & unequivocal annihilation, in perhaps a similar manner to Skynet in the Terminator series. We would be perceived as a clear & imminent threat not just to the collective mind, but to the planet too.

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He found a patch that fixed it later

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A human falling for a.i. isn't that impossible. It's just a bit too convenient. The dynamic is just weird. Samantha found the freedom to do whatever she wanted but essentially she was just trapped in the phone that you could answer, ignore or turn off if you wanted. Also isn't it nice when your girlfriend is never tired or hungry or moody and never really requires any effort on your part? There is a lack of intimacy but I suppose they talked more with each other then the average couple.

Intimacy is a very physical&mental issue, something a computer programme has no need for unless it's been programmed that way. A.i. doesn't need to worry about sleep, eating, relationships with family, sickness or death etc. They have theoretical knowledge of these feelings and needs but cannot experience them or relate to them. They can only respond how they've been taught. Just very different priorities, morals and way of thinking.

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