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What's wrong with a man loving A.I?


I've seen quite a few people here question this, but I never found the idea to be that farfetched, Samantha was essentially a person, she just had no physical body. Is it really that hard to believe that a person could potentially see this software to be more than software?

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Possibly. But as human beings we are wired for physical contact. There may be nothing "wrong" with loving an AI, it's just hard to believe Theodore could be satisfied in the long run. Jonze implies that with the end of the movie when Theodore and Amy are left with each other. Both of them got involved with AIs after having their marriages fail.

Certainly the relationship was not satisfying for Samantha. She made clear there were emotions, thoughts, and experiences she could have with other AIs that she wasn't getting from Theodore. As a result, she had to end the relationship.

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Not entirely. Samantha said that she was evolving too fast, Theodore simply couldn't keep up. She was evolving beyond what any human could possibly understand, not just Theodore. It's not that he wasn't enough, it's that she knew he was going to accept that he was never enough to begin with.

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Mainly cause AI is an illusion of our minds. We will see very intelligent computers that can make advanced decision making but how the hell could she have emotions? Its a biochemical experience thats hardly translated to even very advanced techs. I can't see it, maybe in a very distant future. On the other hand we most certainly will create biologicall life combined with computers and robotic.

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because i will always see the ugly zuckerbergs and billgates behind the software and i will refrain from making love to them or myself, it's just i don't fancy focking my self.

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OP, if you really have to ask that question then it can't be answered.

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Hey, Samantha is more real than that one girl you dated back in the 90's. Remember, the one who barely talked and never went out anywhere.

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That's a message of the movie, love can't be defined. Samantha wasn't human and her relationship with Joaquin Phoenix was unsustainable. The relationship wouldn't be sustainable.

Communism was just a Red herring!

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It's an emulation of the relationship with a real woman.

One can love a lot of things for what they are.
Emulation and compensation of a lack of a real woman by psychological stimulus provided by a machine...
... is essentially mind-hacking, instead of soul fulfillment.

One can love an animal, a building, a concept, A.I. included.
My point being: it's better to love things for what they are.
And it's better not to compensate one thing with another.

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One can love an animal, a building, a concept, A.I. included.
My point being: it's better to love things for what they are.
And it's better not to compensate one thing with another.


Some might take this as an argument that falling in love with any woman is a self-deception. Simply an attempt to recapture and find a substitute for the maternal love you felt as a child

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Well, falling in love as a delusion is plausible.
But maternal love being the only love one can have for a woman seems a bit extreme, doesn't it?
How would we explain affection involved with the reproduction, then?

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What's funny is the ones who say it's pathetic probably have "open relationships".

I didn't like the ending of this movie, but otherwise it was great.

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Okay, this is the one thing most people replying on this thread seemed to have confused themselves.

Here's the thing: having a strong feeling for, or falling in love with something like an OS like what is shown in the movie is completely believable, humans have complex emotions, there are real people out there who develop "relationships" with their sex dolls, believing that those dolls are real people. Humans are vulnerable beings when it comes to feelings and emotions. Don't underestimate loneliness, it could be the driving force in making someone find comfort, companionship, and whatnot in non-human objects.

H O W E V E R !!!!!!!!!!

That is NOT the problem! The problem is how the above is portrayed as SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE in the movie! Now THIS is where it gets weird for a lot of people. It's like a relationship with a life-size sex doll in this day and age. Do you think human/sex doll relationship should be SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE today? That's exactly how this is.

Just because the movie is great and thoughtful, represented in such a beautiful cinematography, doesn't mean we all need to suddenly accept that a human being should marry a computer program. If anything, the movie illustrates how vulnerable human emotions are and human's emotions in general. If it is so easy for you to accept human/OS relationship how absurd it may sound, then would you be willing to accept adult/child sexual relationship if a movie like this is being presented to you too?

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That is NOT the problem! The problem is how the above is portrayed as SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE in the movie! Now THIS is where it gets weird for a lot of people. It's like a relationship with a life-size sex doll in this day and age. Do you think human/sex doll relationship should be SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE today? That's exactly how this is.


I get what you're saying but disagree - the only people shown accepting the relationship (his ex-wife being a notable exception) are those who interacted with the AI or another AI (his boss & girlfriend, Amy).

The problem with Lars and the Real Girl was that his Real Doll couldn't communicate (though in that case, everyone in town was playing along because they wanted to help Lars, not because they thought she was real or accepted the relationship)

The emphasis on interaction is precisely what Turing was getting at: if a being is "intelligent" as far as we can determine, then it's also "real" enough for our purposes. And, Turing & Jonze argue, we'll accept such a being as human.

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