Absolutely HATED IT!!! Love to hear other opinions.... - Her (2014) Discussion

[–] jonieblon 10 years ago

Ditto. Now, usually I am not so verbose, but Ditto.

You pipple mek my ass twitch

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[–] wsandberg-1 10 years ago

HATED IT!!! Piece of JUNK!!!!!!

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[–] jasonbourneagain 8 years ago

Don't bother watching this piece of TRASH. It's a waste of time. Better to play Pokemon Go. The double dating part was hilarious. The couple should've put him in a sanitarium because he works with computers all the time and it took over his life. The only other scene worthwhile was the video game one. *beep* you. No, *beep* you. Ha ha.

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[–] Alfred1992 10 years ago

Agree wholeheartedly im 22 and so many of my friends talked about how good it is....ummm NO i found it confusing and really creepy like how do you bring an operating system to orgasm?? Phone sex makes sense between humans because on some level there's a possibility for in-person sex but its an operating system, like its not even sex with a robot. I can get behind banging a cyborg but not the cloud or whatever Samantha was. What was with the suicidal ending? They're gonna kill themselves cause their computers left? If he's suicidal about anything it should be about how high he wears his pants and that porn stache. I didn't like it at all I thought I was missing something glad to see im not alone.

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[–] cludinsk 10 years ago

it was like... OMG... totally unbelievable, right? like totes... as if even.

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[–] flickfix 10 years ago

Ask Morpheus, he'll explain.

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[–] Defenseman13 10 years ago

Can a phone correct your horrid grammar?

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[–] TRhett 9 years ago

I can get behind banging a cyborg but not the cloud...

If he's suicidal about anything it should be about how high he wears his pants and that porn stache.

You sound like my kind of dude, Alfred 1992. That just made my day . . . I am literally LOL!
And BTW . . . this movie was SERIOUSLY stupid. We get the point. Actually, we got this point about a decade ago, when everyone was trying to convince us that the real world would soon be replaced by virtual reality everything. Didn't/won't happen. Stick a fork in 2005, FGS.

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[–] dtkaisei 8 years ago

Well actually, women can have orgasms mentally. And they didn't commit suicide.

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[–] toddjacobucci2002 10 years ago

Hello larosat - I think you are right, you'd have to be one of the types of people you mentioned to enjoy this film.

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[–] xPhenomenusx 10 years ago

So all the Academy voters and 94% of rotten tomatoes critics are one of those things?

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[–] MoviemanCin 10 years ago

I loved it!

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[–] whitespirit26 8 years ago

Oh please, it's not like the AA haven't chosen weird movies before.

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[–] xPhenomenusx 8 years ago

Weird doesn't mean bad.

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[–] zenithon 10 years ago

Agreed! I thought the script was poor and the acting felt forced. Several times during the movie I wondered if there was a script or of they were ad-libbing. I didn't connect at all. To bad, I really like the cast and was looking forward to this one. It currently has an 8.1 rating on IMDB with over 200,000 votes though, so it seems like a whole lot of other people disagree. To each their own.

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[–] wvsarafan 10 years ago

You're clueless.

Stop posting.

You're too dumb to be here.

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[–] toddjacobucci2002 10 years ago

A clue for you wvsarafan This thread isnt about me - its about what you thought of the film "Her". If you are one of those that's not dumb - maybe you can enlighten us with your opinion of the film.

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[–] josh-the-winter 9 years ago

I really liked it. Great acting, beautiful colour palette, mesmerizing soundtrack.

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[–] chekonemusic 10 years ago

Folks,
I can't believe that anybody hasn't enlightened this film may be about 'ego' to pinch on modern form of egoism, which is propagated by desolate society that highly evaluates with 'Taste of others'. Maybe he fell in love with himself. And once something's gone, he rather choose to die.
It seemed more than just promoting cyber sex phyically seen in.
On the other hand, there's no found clear evidence that persuades us to cringe to think as if they eventually commit suicide rather than that they would've just started a relationship since they have a sympathy for losing their significant others.
I do care something like Oculus would be misused in such ways though.

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[–] Waldimore 10 years ago

Isn't the whole point of narcissism that you are in love with yourself? Period! You don't create an "other" because you don't need it. You are the center of your Universe: what you do, how you look, what you think, etc. I don't think a narcissist requires the creation of another outside of himself/herself.

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[–] tallard 9 years ago

Yes absolutely, loving an AI will be loving oneself, narcissism, for the AI will reflect back whatever flatters your ego.

***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**

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[–] bsharporflat 9 years ago

Yes absolutely, loving an AI will be loving oneself, narcissism, for the AI will reflect back whatever flatters your ego.

You seem to be confusing a movie with reality.

Do you watch Lord Of the Rings complain about how stupid everybody was for being enslaved by a circular piece of metal?

Did you watch Harry Potter and shake your head at all these stupid people believing in magic?

Real world and Movie world. Keep them separate in your head and you will be happier.

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[–] tallard 9 years ago

Ah bs... what a pleasure when people such as yourself think everyone else is confused but you are so imbibed with universal knowledge, yes, such a joy. Be on now, go play.

***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**

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[–] calvinl 10 years ago

Please if you can, give it another chance when your perspective on life changes.

Her, it is quirky, clever, thought-provoking film is a hauntingly accurate prediction of the way humanity is heading with technology as an accelerator of social loneliness; but is also sharply observant of the way we interact with each other today.

It speaks about how we as humans, our egos, technology, and modern social networks have essentially dismantled human relationships, but also how to overcome this hurdle, how our ego's are the source of our suffering, and how unity and selflessness is the answer, but, love and hate go together, without one, there is not the other. It is be being so polarized to one end that we become paralyzed. It is only though his suffering that he awakens and finally loves his wife regardless of what has happened. This is only one theme of the movie. There is so much more beneath the surface.

Give it another chance when your view on life has changed, it is an extremely beautiful film, up there with epic films such as: There Will Be Blood, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut, Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind etc.

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[–] rivieran 10 years ago

I agree; I too place her on the same level as 2001:ASO, Blade Runner and a few others in terms of its relevance to the human experience and our potential futures. her scored an exceedingly rare 10/10 from me; I can't wait to watch it a few more times and revel in its startling psychological and philosophical depths of expression.

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[–] toddjacobucci2002 10 years ago

Hello to calvini and rivieran. Thank you both for your takes. I'm not in agreement but I appreciate both of your viewpoints. I did take another look at "Her" just to make sure of how I felt about it - and some new feelings did come up. I felt really really bad for Joaquin's character. Hey maybe there are people like him out there. For me, I would certainly feel really funny introducing my cellphone as my girlfriend. But, to each his own. Ultimately though - upon second viewership - I still disliked the movie.

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[–] calvinl 10 years ago

I'm happy you gave it another shot, we all have different perspectives and that is something we should rejoice. One thing, I personally believe the introduction of the cellphone is not to be seen as literally someone loving their cellphone, but that ability to love something or someone so much that you are not ashamed of their differences to other people or society. It symbolizes true acceptance for who they REALLY are.

I believe the cell phone idea is just a device or method for the director/story teller to show that we can love beyond our limitations as a society, that to truly evolve and intellectually mature we must embrace the unknown and brutally different.

It is in this acceptance that we find true love.

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[–] toddjacobucci2002 10 years ago

Hello again calvini: One thing I can tell here is that you are a completely open minded person. I think that's great and Im trying to do the same thing. But, IM having difficulty with your point of view on this. I suppose, in some worlds for some people, you could fall in love with a voice coming out of your cellphone. But to be that attached to something that you know is not human??? Just some computer programmers perception of what you would like??? Attached enough to call it your girlfriend???? A bit difficult for me to understand. ANd in those worlds with those people that could introduce that voice coming out of their phone as "my girlfriend" - Id feel really sorry for them. This is how I felt for Jaoquins character upon second viewership of "Her". Now, on the other side of that - there is something I love and am attached to that is not human - my dog. However, I dont introduce my dog as "my girlfriend" and I certainly dont have sex with it. So, in summation, I just dont understand it. THe things Joaquins character does - makes no sense to me at all.

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[–] calvinl 10 years ago

Wow, totally missed your reply, my apologies.

I wouldn't say I'm completely open minded, but, I would say you too are open minded! I can tell you want to see things in a different way, and that simple desire is the act of being open minded; most people never even have the desire or conscious thought that they are narrow minded.

I'm trying to understand "her" from your perspective so let me know if I misinterpret your feelings of the movie. I feel that you feel Theodore running through the subways with a cellphone just seems awkward, like he is borderline insane/desperate and lonely. He also looks like someone that has essentially cracked and is now using an inanimate object (samantha, or in your perspective a cellphone) to deal with his issues. Thus, loving a small tech device and bringing it around like your gf is similar to those people in REALITY that are "married" to sex dolls (there is a documentary on how some people have actually married sex dolls; living with them and even taking family pictures).

I'm not one to judge them, but I personally get a sense of "eww" when I watch those documentaries. But, I also then try to see life through their eyes. For some reason they feel that society has abandoned them or is an insidious faction. Thus they become reclusive and feel they could only trust a Real Doll (I believe that's what the sex dolls are called). I then wonder why we would label these people as "outcasts or weird"; I then realize society has essential conditioned me (and most likely everyone else) to see this as being really *beep* weird. I believe society did this in self preservation, because if we were completely open to this, people could possibly stop procreating.

But, just because society tells me to think that this behavior (dating a doll) is bizarre and unhealthy, doesn't mean that their relationship is false or weird. To THEM it is real, and to their reality they are in a relationship. It may not be to a human, but in THEIR mind they are in love, and it honestly makes me happy that they are happy. In the end, we all strive to be happy; society has conditioned us (partially because it is true) that marrying someone of the opposite sex, having children, a house, and a green lawn = happiness. But, people are different, and if dating a doll really works for them and makes them happy, then society's predisposition on what is require for happiness should not impede on their lives.

We essentially project what WE think is the right way or wrong way onto other people, blinding us from what "her" is celebrating - our differences and the beautiful chaos that comes with it; because without that, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

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[–] toddjacobucci2002 10 years ago

Hello again calvini - well, I think I get your drift. Joaquins character may be bizarre - his actions totally against conventional wisdom, however, it works for him. ANd that is a good point on your part. It may seem crazy to me, may seem crazy to a lot of people, but it works for him. So be it. In giving this some thought I concluded society could view me in a similar fashion to a degree because I am so attached to my dog. I'm single with no kids so my dog has become the center of my life. I would hope that people would accept that in me. Just as I accept Joaquins character and actions. SO, I say thank you Calvini - you've introduced me to a new way of looking at things.

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[–] calvinl 10 years ago

I would say I fully love my dog as well, he is *beep* awesome and I love to hang out with him. But, obviously my love for him is different to that of my family.

I had a great time talking to you and glad that you are seeking out new ways of looking at things.

Cheers
C

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[–] iteachart 10 years ago

Try not to think of it as him falling in love with his cellphone. Try to think of it as an analogy for people meeting and dating over the internet. It's a voice ... someone to listen and talk to ... someone to share your experiences with ... even though they PHYSICALLY aren't with you.

I think Theodore quickly overcame the idea of her being a computer and she became a personality. Samantha is a person who is laughing at his jokes ... asking him how his day was. It's no different than getting onto a private chat and talking to someone in another state or country.

I do understand where you're coming from. I thought the idea of the double date was odd ... and the sex scene was just awkward. All in all, it gave me something to think about. The fact the computers are becoming SO ingrained in our lives ... how many generations of Siri are we away from meeting Samantha?

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[–] greysmouth-998-119939 9 years ago

Hi. I'm really confused..I love Joaquin Phoenix for his way of acting, BUT, seriously, this character and this movie are nothing. Anyone could act Theodore, he has nothing to say and the little he has is to a voice. This movie is completely surreal, with no script, a non sense film. Too bad, he's a great actor, not this time.

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[–] cheeso65 10 years ago

It speaks about how we as humans, our egos, technology, and modern social networks have essentially dismantled human relationships, but also how to overcome this hurdle, how our ego's are the source of our suffering, and how unity and selflessness is the answer, but, love and hate go together, without one, there is not the other. It is be being so polarized to one end that we become paralyzed. It is only though his suffering that he awakens and finally loves his wife regardless of what has happened. This is only one theme of the movie. There is so much more beneath the surface.

That still doesn't make a good movie. Your one paragraph was much more effective in getting that message across.

The cheesy dialog, Phoenix's now overused mannerisms, Samantha turning so needy and whiny (which is really Jonez's thinly-veiled misogyny, when you think about it), and it's general self-satisfied I'm hipper than thou attitude are flaws the movie can't overcome.

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[–] stryfe007 10 years ago

Samantha turning so needy and whiny (which is really Jonez's thinly-veiled misogyny, when you think about it)

I disagree. The point was to show that when it came to a romantic relationship Samantha had no previous experience and was going through the process of learning and maturing. Many people, men or women, in the early relationships of their youth end up being overly needy. It's a natural reaction when you feel like your relationship is being threatened by an outside force (Theo's ex wife in this case). As people gain experience, often through multiple relationships and self reflection, they come to understand that these feelings and this reaction to them are not constructive. Samantha very quickly went through that process. For her it took a day before she talked to Theo and explained that she didn't like her own behavior and that is not how she would act in the future.

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[–] MTulliver 10 years ago

Omg, yes. The dialog was COMPLETELY cheesy. I was waiting for someone else to mention this. And Phoenix's fake laughing. It was driving me nuts!
It doesn't help that they made him look like Ned Flanders in this for some reason.

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[–] tallard 9 years ago

Totally agree. Actually this entire project reeks of misogyny.

***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**

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[–] Syxiepoo 10 years ago

calvini - what you said! Well, almost all of it. Plus, this movie goes a long way towards proving that acting CAN be all about voice. Scarlett does a sterling job here. Initially, I found myself visualising her when Samantha was speaking, but very soon, this went away and I was focused on the voice as it's own entity. This was the essence of the movie, highlighted by the slightly shambolic surrogate sequence. That said, it will be so sad if humanity ever gets to this lonely state.

There is real life ... and then there are movies!

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[–] BeOneOfUs 10 years ago

Nail on the head, buddy!

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[–] treach33 9 years ago

Please if you can, give it another chance when your perspective on life changes.

Her, it is quirky, clever, thought-provoking film is a hauntingly accurate prediction of the way humanity is heading with technology as an accelerator of social loneliness; but is also sharply observant of the way we interact with each other today.

It speaks about how we as humans, our egos, technology, and modern social networks have essentially dismantled human relationships, but also how to overcome this hurdle, how our ego's are the source of our suffering, and how unity and selflessness is the answer, but, love and hate go together, without one, there is not the other. It is be being so polarized to one end that we become paralyzed. It is only though his suffering that he awakens and finally loves his wife regardless of what has happened. This is only one theme of the movie. There is so much more beneath the surface.

^This. Great post! I would also like to add that it shows just how inept and ineffectual humans will become if we don't change our over dependence and over reliance on technology. Especially how it applies to becoming socially awkward. It seemed in the film like this applied to both men and women but I especially saw this depicted in the men. It's like with all this technology we still end up becoming a feckless, powerless society full of practically neutered men and cold desperate women.

Be careful what you wish for ladies, this may be your future. you may end having to decide between a guy like Theodore or an OS. Yikes!

~What if this is as good as it gets?!~

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[–] badtothebono 10 years ago

We are seriously in trouble.

He doubledates with it. That actually was the most insane part.

BUt, I think you're wrong in 1 thing

I personally received no entertainment value whatsoever with this film

The goofball pants were entertaining.

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[–] borchers34 10 years ago

Yeah, when he tells Christ Pratt and girlfriend that his is an OS and they were indifferent, that is when the movie lost me.

No f@cking sh`t lady does it sound like I'm ordering a pizza!

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[–] captjc 8 years ago

Is that really so out of place? If, say 60 years ago you were to say that you're in a relationship with someone of a different race, people would be appalled, but (most) people are indifferent today. If, say, 20 years ago you were to say that you're in a relationship with someone of the same sex, people would be appalled, but (most) people are indifferent today. This movie takes place in the future, where supposedly advanced software agents are commonplace and actual AI has become a consumer reality. Who is to say that social acceptance of human-machine relationships isn't a thing.

Also, maybe Paul and his Girlfriend are are just really progressive. While it was stated that a AI relationships were a thing, if only based on the fact there was services to allow for AI-Human interaction via surrogates, not everyone seemed to accept AI relationships. Theodore's (ex)wife seemed disgusted at Theodore being "in love with his laptop."

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