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He already commented on the opening weekend numbers -
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/kevin-coster-horizon-box-office-flop-1236057903/
Key takeaway is - he cares more about the film looking/sounding exactly as he had envisioned it, rather than how much money it will bring.
I suspect he'll make his money back via streaming and other sales, and that's something he most likely already knows. I think the way he thinks about the overall situation is quite admirable. If you are a true artist, you care more about the quality of work, rather than the amount of money it will bring, if any.
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Michelle and Biden? Yeah - that's pretty dumb.
Still - he's nowhere near Deniro's derangement syndrome level.
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most writers/directors get worse over time, not better
It's possible that Costner has gotten to that age bracket where directors/writers begin to fail.
I imagine he's made more than enough money to be OK, even if this flops completely and does not make all of his money back.
Because of court proceedings, we can pretty much estimate his net worth - it's a tad above 400 mill - and his annual earnings.
Speaking of which, looks like money does play a big role in his motivations after all, so he's gaslighting a tad, when he says that it doesn't matter if this film is successful or not. The reason why he's still not doing yellowstone is because he asked for 12 mill per season and paramount said no.
anyways, you can read more here - https://parade.com/celebrities/kevin-costner-net-worth
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As I just mentioned in another reply, it seems like it's Paramount that decided to shortchange him for the latter seasons. In fact, he was willing to go for a lower pay, but perhaps not as low as Paramount wanted him to go.
Imagining what I'd be thinking in his position right now.... and I think that's what reflected in his own comments - I may be losing big money here, but at least I'm keeping my pride and self-respect, rather than working for a cheap-arse studio.
Imagine you are on a big ship, trying to get to your destination, but the peeps on the ship are starting to treat your like shit and it's getting worse every day. You then get off mid-way and take off on a tiny boat. You are taking a huge risk and it may even end your life, but at least you retain your self-dignity in the process. Do you understand the analogy?
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Yellowstone is in its final season, because he's quitting.
I bet the showrunner could have continued, but he's prolly being shortchanged, too - so he's like - nah, we're done.
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Many overestimates the profits made from streaming. When a film fails commercially the platforms pay next to nothing for it.
Also all sales to TV is subjected to tax. Same as when it opens wide.
If the budget was 100M plus $25M in marketing I’m guessing the net loss will be about $70M ! The film might yield $1M in revenue per years for the next 20 years reducing the net loss a bit.
This is a massive flop. Next up is that Coppola film.
this is an interesting film experiment from Costner. May not be much at the start but I hope people stay with it as I think he has some grand bit of storytelling up his sleeve in the next couple movies, and that hopefully that will drive more people to this. Its audacious, epic filmmaking we should be encouraging so its sad that its struggling like this
If anyone's interested, I reviewed the movie on my youtube channel. Appreciate any feedback. Trying to improve -https://youtu.be/3Pkh7hOGdX8
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Which free streaming are you referring to? Most streaming services (especially the ones showing new movies) charge a monthly premium.
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Making this available on streaming platforms would benefit the 2nd film numbers only if the first film gets a good reception and ends on a cliffhanger - check the endgame marvel BS - that's how they got those numbers.
If the first film is not great and doesn't have that 'ooh, i gotto see how this ends' bit, then it wouldn't do the 2nd film any good, though greater audience exposure may get a few more seats filled.