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One of the worst 'films' I've ever seen


I honestly don't how, or why, this "film" made it beyond a random thought in some idiot's drug addled brain. The entire concept is flawed. I read in another post that the director did a great deal of research because he wanted the film to be "believable?" Are you kidding? This is, without a doubt, one of the worst movies I have ever seen... and that's including what plays behind the hilarious characters of MST3K. The only reason to sit through this train wreck is if you are really stoned and want something to dissect and laugh at.

At one point about halfway into the film, I commented to my wife, "Maybe De Niro is just a regular, old, blind guy and all of this is in his head. A sort of fantasy he made up to entertain himself as he trudges through the daily routine." It was supposed to be a joke, but a testament to the awful reality of the script was my wife's response: "That would actually be a better idea for a movie!"

Honestly, we only finished watching for two reasons: 1) We were having a great time making fun of it. 2) We wanted to see what laughable "twist" was coming at the end. The twist did not disappoint. **SPOILERS** De Niro wasn't really blind. OOOHHHHHHH!!! Couldn't see that one coming ten thousand miles away. The second twist? I'll let you find out, but it's just silly and certainly not worth sitting through the film, if that's the only reason you're still watching after the first 20 minutes.

Now this section will contain many SPOILERS, as I want to respond to some of the more ridiculous plot points:

1. Is this supposed to be some alternate reality, as other reviewers have stated, where any of the subject matter of this script actually matters... to anyone? If so, they did not do a good job of establishing this fact. The movie makes it seem as though psychic frauds are PLAGUING the world and must be fought with the fervor of the war on terror, or the drug war. Which, incidentally I do not agree with, but at least those would make sense for a movie plot.

2. De Niro is supposed to be some master villain, hellbent on destroying people's lives, but they never really cover any terrible act he's committing. Ohhhh... he's a fraud who fleeces people for money... AND?! Who gives a *beep* Am I supposed to care that much about idiots giving their money to a conman? He's no worse than a televangelist. Did they show him raping women and children? Was he shown stealing money from thousands of sick and poor people? No. So who cares what some hack psychic does with his time?

3. The scene where they bust the fraudulent faith healer is hilarious. First, Sigourney and Cillian are using some high-tech spy gear to bust the guy, and for some reason the police are with them. OK. When the bust occurs, the director makes a half-assed attempt to make it look like the whole production is being run by biker meth dealing types? I assume that's what he was going for. The bust concludes with the cops hauling the faith healer off to prison... for... I'm not sure. In this world, I guess being a faith healer is some major crime that gets you locked away for life? I doubt they even broke any laws, scummy as the characters might be.

4. Sigourney Weaver's death. WTF? Did those people on the talk show kill her? Cillian just finds her dead after the talk show got out of hand. And why are they portraying the talk show appearance as though it would matter at all? In most believable worlds, Sigourney's appearance would be little more than an episode of some daytime talk show, or a blurb in a TLC programs on debunking paranormal claims. Yet, Cillian is watching this event unfold on his television screen as though he's watching a State of the Union address, or some debate that has ANY consequences to important matters. Again... who cares? Cillian's character, I guess. The audience sure wasn't lead to a place of caring by this point in the script.

5. Near the end of the film, the "scientist" who ran the experiment on De Niro is about to publish his findings that the demonstrated psychic phenomena was real. This is supposed to be a HUGE deal for some reason, that ONE scientist at ONE university published a study. This also goes against the point other reviewers posted that this script takes place in a universe where everyone is interested in the paranormal and the public widely believes in paranormal abilities. If that is the case, then why would this study be a big deal? I think this point shows that the writer/director wanted this script to take place in the real world, which is absolute insanity. Anyway... back to the topic. This scene is ridiculous! Scientist publish controversial findings all the time. The movie acts as though the second this study is signed and published, the world as we know it will come to an end. Up will become down. Black will become white. Yadda yadda. Who... gives... a... *beep* Studies like this one HAVE been published in the real world and no one cared. So... why would anyone care about a fictionalization of a common occurrence? It's all just so terrible.

6. Sigourney make a comment at one point about how the department trying to prove psychic phenomena exists has double the funding of her "debunking" department and how they are "over subsidized." So, one weird and inconsequential department at one random university has more funding than the other weird and inconsequential department. Who cares? The writer acts as though there is one university on the planet and one scientist's findings have some massive effect on the human population. And oh yea, the government is funding entire departments to prove psychic's are real. The funny thing is, the US government actually does spend a good deal of money studying these topics and experimenting with remote viewing, mind control, etc. AND IT STILL DOESN'T MATTER!

7. De Niro not actually being blind is a poor attempt at a twist. First, it's pretty hacky and easy to see coming. But, more importantly, De Niro being blind in the first place had no real effect on the story, so who gives a *beep* if he was faking? Nice "twist" that didn't matter at all.

The entire script just seems like a debunker's wet dream. A world where people care about this topic with a passion and the entire world is out to get the debunker for being right in the face of wrong. Seriously... no one cares and this film sure as hell doesn't do anything to change that fact. I don't know why any of the actor's took this job. Come on, De Niro. I know you take a lot of *beep* roles now, but really? This piece of crap? Did you even know what movie you were in? Sigourney does an OK job acting, but she should really stick to comedic roles nowadays (Baby Mama, Paul, Cedar Rapids, etc), unless a very good script comes her way. She sure as hell couldn't carry this film, but I doubt anyone could. And Cillian. What are you doing to your career? I've liked you in many roles, but why on Earth did you take this job?

TL;DR:
One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Up there with Bongwater and equally fun to dissect and make fun of while high. So many plot holes, you might trip over one, set in a silly world that isn't very believable, stupid and inconsequential twists that can be seen coming a mile away... but those are not the worst aspects of this film. The worst thing about the film is that the basic idea is just flawed. A lot of movies fail to execute a good idea. That is not the case with Red Lights. This movie does the best job it possibly can executing a terrible idea for a script... and that is just sad. As with softcore "skinamax" flicks I'll see randomly on the guide at 2AM, this movie left me feeling: Who the hell pays for this *beep* to get made and why did anyone think it was a good idea in the first place?!?

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yes i agree 2 twists what a pile of *beep*

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why is this board so critical of every movie? it seems that the more complicated the movie the more bad threads that appear. i was shocked to see so many negative threads because i thought this movie was great. it had its flaws im sure but every movie does

I come here to see peoples feedback on movies but man people on here are so negative. its hard to ever run across a board where people actually praise a movie. its hard to believe that this movie got this bad of reception by the general population. i thought this was a creative movie and really made you think. Ending was cool too but im not critic so i don't know. It just seems people here over analyze the *beep* out of movies. Oh well I guess...

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why is this board so critical of every movie? it seems that the more complicated the movie the more bad threads that appear. i was shocked to see so many negative threads because i thought this movie was great. it had its flaws im sure but every movie does


I think you`re completely missing the point of this place. People give their opinions of films. Just because it differs from yours does not make it "bad"

Also, with you finding so many negative threads on a film you like, could it be that your opinion of it being a "great film", is actually wrong?



"What was that, an exhibition?"

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this could be the case if it wasn't like this on every single message board on this website. the people here are just overly critical

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I have friends with all sorts of opinions about movies. Sometimes one of us criticizes a movie the others like. But difference of opinion doesn't explain some of what's on IMDB.

When talking about a bad movie, real people say things like, "I remember when I went to see Waterworld in theaters. It was so unrealistic." They don't say, "Kevin Costner should just kill himself so I never have to see his stupid face again."

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But that`s the problem....

"Kevin Costner should just kill himself so I never have to see his stupid face again."


...this isn't an opinion. It`s very easy to spot the venting mouthpiece, who is there just to gain whatever attention he/she can. I just ignore them and focus on people who can explain their like/dislike intelligently.



"What was that, an exhibition?"

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You're correct, Gregg. The movie was well directed and well acted. It could have had some more meat to the story, but four of us watched it last night and were entertained. I know the OP thinks he's brilliant, but maybe he was "stoned". LOL Similar ground has been covered better, but this movie wasn't a creative failure. All it really lacked was confrontation between DeNiro and Weaver. I do get the feeling that they didn't get to film everything they originally had in mind, and they needed to explain more of the "tricks" in the psychic testing, but that's quibbling.

And in response to a comment from some time back, yes there are psychic frauds that need to be exposed, for the same reason shown in the movie. So-called faith healers do exactly what was depicted in the movie ... shill crowds, radio the "healer", and then he tells desperately ill people they are cured. That doesn't even include all the "astrologers" and "mediums" who bilk people out of small fortunes.

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Throughout this film I was thinking the exact same thing: 'who cares'. Why would all those reporters be live at the same time and talk about de niro's character's last show as if its the greatest thing ever. And why would anyone spend thousands of dollars to attend a 'psychic' show. (I loved that the guy in the bathroom said that he spend $300 and he hopes the 2nd act is better because he didn't pay to watch Hamlet...wouldn't previous audience members complain online how crappy or how the show was just like any other 'mentalist/psychic' show? like Sylvia Brown?)

Retarded movie...also, Toby Jones's character was just so stupid, no scientist would ever sign a document saying they found psychics to be real with a study like that (letting the subject wear a watch, not testing to see if he was really blind). It seemed like he just believed him to be a psychic, went as far as to thank him for helping science...give me a *beep* break. Also, no scientist would be so excited to meet a supposed psychic and treat him like a rockstar, if he did in real life he would be disqualified from conducting the experiment.

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Excellent breakdown, point by point. I am so surprised that this movie is rated 6.1. Where was the entertainment value in this? I'm pretty easily amused, but this one was a stinker. The first 20 minutes or so wasn't half-bad, but after that it tanked quickly.



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Well I think I should just state that the " twist" isn't that Deniro isn't blind, the twist is that Cillian Murphy's character is actually psychic.

I do think the director lucked up by getting such a great core cast, but it was still an interesting concept. Also, fraud is illegal, scamming businesses and millions of people is a serious crime. I can't sell tickets for a rock concert and perform a stand up comedy act instead.

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Bingo! Great review!

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This film was painful. Really, really painful.

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