Worst movie I have seen this year by far, it might appeal to found footage lovers, but even they could struggle to enjoy this pile of crap.
Most positive reviews are saying its good because it looks and feels like a documentary, it does`nt. It looks and feels like a found footage movie. Poor.
3/10
"You`re right, no human being would stack books like this" - Venkman (Ghostbusters)
I agree. I have a big issue with the "found footage" subgenre; even the one that spawned it all THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT is pretty ridiculous despite some potentially atmospheric moments. My biggest issues with this style of filmmaking are the loathsome shaky cam effect and the believability of where a cameraman is standing. I felt this particular film did a decent job of telling a story without my needing a Dramamine or a stimulant (as was the case with the wretchedly overrated PARANORMAL ACTIVITY farce.) Set up was concise, effects were decent, the movie science presented was believable within a reasonable realm of suspended disbelief. I think plot-wise this tied together fairly well. Sure there are holes; but after seeing hundreds of horror films, I can't tell you one that is 100% neat.
The Blair Witch Project didn't spawn sh't. It all started in Italy with the movies of Prosperi and Jacopetti back in the 60's which in turn inspired Ruggero Deodato to make the first found footage film "Cannibal Holocaust". If you have no clue what you're talking about you shouldn't contribute.
No need to be a snobby elitist twat. Especially when your immature grandstanding drives you to make factually incorrect assertions.
The success of BWP (and the ubiquity of cheap portable digital devices) absolutely spawned an incredibly lucrative revival of "found footage" horror films.
If someone claimed that Myrick and Sanchez invented the "found footage" genre, then you would be within your rights to correct them. But no one claimed this.
I would not be surprised to learn that the majority of the makers of these terrible found footage horrors have never seen or even heard of even more terrible exploitation films like Cannibal Holocaust.
Sorry, but Ruggero Deodato garbage from 1980 did not spawn the torrent of found footage films in the 2000s. Try again, dickhead.
"the roman empire never died, it just turned into the catholic church"
I had to laugh at your attempt to sound clever,ganubis. Ubiquity is the wrong word for your statement I'm afraid. Ubiquitous, means being everywhere at once,or omnipresent if you like,as in a God. You obviously searched for what you thought was a good word but only succeeded in making yourself look silly! A tip,the word prevalence,would have been a better choice. Keep studying the dictionary and learning new words,nothing wrong with that,just be sure to check the definitions carefully before posting.
Why would you use hyperbole in that sentence? Looking at your statement there was no need for exaggeration. It is obviously a clear cut case of being to clever by half I'm afraid,so no point in trying to cover your tracks now.
Good lord. Because I tend to (over)use hyperbole to humourous effect? I am certainly in a better position to gauge my reasons for choosing the words I do than you, but, by all means, interpret it however you like.
You can take issue with how I employed the word. You can say that it doesn't work and that it sounded clunky. You can accuse me of purple prose. You can even say it was pretentious of me to use that word. But you cannot assume to know that I do not know the meaning of the word and used it this way out of ignorance of its definition. "Ubiquitous" is not exactly the most obscure word in the English language, though you are apparently so wowed by its inclusion that you have projected a great deal onto me and my reasons for using it. It required no 'search', and it doesn't make what I wrote sound more 'clever'. It's the sort of ten-dollar word that kids latch onto in the first week of Liberal Arts... not that special.
I am not attempting to "cover my tracks", but you are free to believe so. If anyone here is attempting to be a clever dick it is you. Calling out the misuse (in your eyes) of vocabulary by others and attempting to divine their motivation for doing so is an even more elitist stance than run-of-the-mill flowery prose. You contributed nothing here but trolled me on the use of a word. Why? To what end other than to elevate yourself? How am I the pompous ass in this situation? Right. I am not.
the roman empire never died, it just turned into the catholic church
Um bro. Most people, like in most people contribute found footage to blair witch project because those other movies aren't that popular. It's like saying hey that incredibly popular movie is a rip off of a very old 1800's cartoon. There will always be someone who has done it before cause of endless media. Found footage is popular because of blair witch project. Cloverfield pushed it even more. Your comment is fine, cause that's the history of it but your cocky I know it all comment about the person having no clue just shows that you have some ego problems. He knew what he was talking about. Take a chill pill k bro.
there's a big difference between "fake documentary" and "found footage". fake documentaries have been around forever purporting to be real for the sake of education/sensation. you can compare "cannibal holocaust" to "the blair witch project" but only in facile ways. "paranormal activity" isn't necessarily "found footage" or a "fake documentary"; it's more like "inadvertently captured events" and the mission of each endeavor is very different. V/H/S was designed to work within the realm of "found footage" for the sake of it and then the two "grave encounters" films are more like "fake documentary" "inadvertently captured events" but since i'm delineating all of these genres, i can't label it "found footage" even though it would be convenient to. you're being too general, king of film.
I am of the same mind with you. I'm a seasoned viewer, and was stirred by some of the footage here. It was not a supernatural, high tech action movie, but had plenty of graphic realism to make it an interesting experience.
I too was very disappointed in Grave Encounters 2 (I didn't even finish it to be honest- And I watch through some pretty terrible movies!) and V/H/S which I REALLY didn't understand all the rave about... I thought The Bay was pretty good for a gross parasite movie! Not perfect, but how many movies really are?
The thing I liked about V/H/S was the variety. If one segment sucked then it wouldn't last too long and another would be along shortly. Stupid spelling with the title though. And the main plot to bring together the segments was as contrived as it could have been. Although let's admit, in these kind of films how much does that really matter?
As for The Bay I liked the use of various media devices to capture the drama. It wasn't just one guy with a camera. TV news, security cameras, mobile phones. I think even a web cam was used at some point. For that reason I'm not sure it should be considered strictly "found footage".
vhs is a good movie creepy and scary with different stories and grave encounters 2 was ok but this movie the bay is awfull its more of a documentary than a found footage horror story.
I have yet to see any of these "found footage" movies to be anything but total crap.
The only way we can stop this excrement is to refuse to buy tickets and refuse to buy the dvds... maybe then they'll stop producing these slimy stinky little dog turd movies..
It's interesting that no one who comments on this says anything about the content. I suspect that positive reviews have something to do with it being a warning about ecological disaster. The comments here are like the people in the movie, who are blissfully celebrating a holiday while their world is being destroyed.
The reason nobody comments about the "content" is that the movie was so awfull on the technical side and the acting so atrocious (especially the reporter/narrator), any message of ecological liability (which is not really scarce in the movie industry) was lost to the spectator.
Some of the footage made no sense if we are to believe it's all found-footage (including some background "scary" music) and the only passable acting was from the scientist guy.
I'm not a big fan of found-footage movies, but I've seen my fair share (V/H/S wasn't bad) and this is the worst I've seen.
I love the mindless hate this movie is getting. Not one single negative I've read about this movie EVER says why it's garbage, just that it is. The only people bitch about is the main actresses voice. That's it! People just hate on found footage to hate on it.
1. The acting was, in my opinion, very poor. At times I wondered if the film was done with a shooting script or if large segments were improv. There were quite a few moments where characters repeated words within a sentence, such as 'but', which is something you tend to see in actors who are inexperienced at doing ad-lib or improv.
2. At first I was puzzled as to whether or not the film was a mockumentary. Tonally, it plays out rather unevenly from start to finish. What I assume were supposed to be horrific shots of sea lice eating their way through people's flesh were frankly silly looking, though this could be in part due to my dislike of CGI and preference for practical special effects. The scene where Stephanie's husband dies as a friend watches on in 'horror' was particularly laughable, IMO. As an aside, there were no characters I could identify with, which is key for me as a viewer.
3. The ecological angle this film takes is nothing new, Jaws did it best and basically wrote the template for eco-horror. Natural predator threatens to ruin a town's celebration, there is a coverup so that festivities continue, the predator rears its ugly head and lots of people die. We do get a shout out to sharks in the beginning, but the culprit is...a rash? Nope, an isopod. Okay, fine, but I've seen this movie before. It's also called Ants, Piranha, Kingdom of the Spiders, Grizzly, Alligator, Great White, etc. I could go on, but why?
4. Character motivation is unclear. Why is the American oceanographer so routinely rude to his French peer? Why do Stephanie and her husband walk through an obviously empty town, filled with dying people, a newborn infant in tow? Why doesn't the doctor realize the trouble is isopods earlier? He's been amputating body parts all day long, as we see in one pointed shot of an entire leg being placed in a trash bag. Why is there a recurrent theme of characters 'looking good' on camera and redoing takes or being concerned about their place within the in-film camera frame?
5. The perfect storm of events which lead to the (chicken crap, radiation, dead zones in the bay) isopods becoming able to eat people from the inside out smacked of extreme contrivance and cheap storytelling for me. Others may have enjoyed it. I did not.
I watched the whole film but I found it to be one of the worst films I've seen in a long time. My absolute astonishment that Barry Levinson had made this dreck was what kept me watching. I rated it a three, which I think is being generous.
I like films from both the high and low ends of the spectrum, and I tend to enjoy found footage as well as gory horror as well as whatever happens to be showing on TCM on any given evening, but this was just bad.
It seemed to me that there were abortive attempts to call back to older films--the sweet but soon hardened by events female reporter from [REC] and later the original Dawn of the Dead, when the policeman goes into the house to see the people being eaten alive from within and ends up killing them (and his partner) echoed the SWAT team of Roger and Peter in the housing project. Donna's face being covered in blood from the body above her recalled 28 Days Later. Again, I could go on, but why?
People did foolish things for foolish reasons (one of my least favorite horror film 'tricks') and the resolution was flat and boring.
In my opinion.
------------------------- "It's better not to know so much about what things mean." David Lynch
1) The acting wasn't great, but it was at least decent enough to keep me entertained. I'd take that acting over the acting in movies like "5 across the eyes" or "Don't be afraid of the dark".
2) The hell it did, it starts with the ending, then recounts up to the ending by angling from multiple perspectives (the reporter, the oceanographer, the Doctor and the CDC). Also if you didn't find anyone in there you couldn't identify with you are a sad man. Let's see, there's the doctor trying to save lives, the scared parents (multiple accounts of that one), the child's view, the frightened third party caught up in everything, etc. Pretty much every angle and perspective was covered so it's virtually impossible for someone not to connect with at least one person unless they are some basement dweller.
3) Yes this story has been done before, just like war of the worlds, casablanca, etc and so forth. EVERY story has been done at this point, to the point that saying a movie is like some other movie is an ignorant nitpick. It is IMPOSSIBLE to write a story in this day and age and not have it be comparable to some other story or film.
4) I didn't see him being rude to her, just picking on her about her accent. If that's rude to you, word of advice, lurk the net more you're obviously still too thin skinned. I'll agree on the Stephanie thing, it is kind of stupid that they didn't get back on the boat. However remember that's just it, they've been on a boat, they don't know if this is local or nation wide. So it's acceptable. The doctor didn't see the isopods until it was too late. He didn't find out early because the larger easily noticable isopods were found in forensic cases, in other words after people started dying. By then there wasn't *beep* he could do because without clear evidence to the opposite he had to assume it was bacterial.
5) Now that's just a nitpick, you obviously missed the red herring. You mention it but don't realize it. The radiation was a red herring and a bit of a joke to old 80's giant monster films where radiation was always the cause because we didn't understand it. What caused the isopods large size was the steroids IN the chicken *beep* The local hatchery had been feeding steroids to their chickens to increase their growth, when they pushed the excrement from said chickens into the water it became algae laced with remnants from the steroids, which was eaten by the Isopods.
It's obvious you're nitpicking at problems that aren't there and making mountains out of molehills. If you hate the movie that's fine, feel free to hate it. But don't feign that you're hate stems from some deeper more meaningful place. That's what your arguments show me, you're nitpicking because you want some reason to hate the film, rather than simply that you just didn't like it.
For the record, there are a lot worse films than this. I mean a LOT worse. I'll give you a recommendation, Amber Alert and 5 across the eyes, watch those films if you really want to see really bad acting and stupidly contrived plots.
strider: The post you are responding to made stronger arguments than you made in your rebuttal.
don't feign that you're hate stems from some deeper more meaningful place. That's what your arguments show me, you're nitpicking because you want some reason to hate the film, rather than simply that you just didn't like it.
You could throw this observation right back in your face and say,
"you're being charitable and making allowances only because you enjoyed the film, rather than simply admitting your bias contributed to your leniency."
This is not the sort of argument I care for, and it seems frightfully popular on the internet, no doubt a byproduct of the great online competition for the delusion of being "right" in one's mere opinion.
I take it for granted that those with whom I disagree are offering their honest opinion, even if I happen to disagree with them. My disagreement is simply a lack of the same opinion or the possession of an alternate one. Opinion and taste are subjective and not objective. We can only seek to explain why a film did not "work" for us, not provide evidence as to why it should not work for anyone else.
Any yet internet brawls have an overwhelming tendency to take that form, as if it were possible for a victor to be declared at its end.
It is pointless to insist that someone bearing a contrary notion is going out of their way to "hate" something. It is also a cheap and underhanded way to imply that the opposition's motives are dishonest and groundless.
The truth of the matter is, you simply do not share the same opinion. All you can do is explain to the other is why you hold the opinion that you do.
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And to respond specifically to T-eschberger, I'll give you some reasons as to why I was so let down (taken from a review I just submitted):
The main issue with the film is that it has no guidance, and feels very unfocused and confused. The only way to describe it is to say that it felt like Levinson shot about 6 different found-footage movies, then haphazardly cobbled and condensed them together into a single 84 minute release the weekend before this film's premier.
Nothing in this movie organically works or leads into anything else. The lack of a narrative focus leaves us following a seemingly random array of characters who all receive little-to-no establishment or development. And because none of these characters actually are associated with each other, the film constantly has to cut between their stories in a jarring manor, relying on very lazy on-screen graphics and some hilariously poor voice-over narration to try and bridge the gaps. And the real kicker is that the only character who more-or-less feels like a "lead" (Donna the reporter) actually leaves the movie before the final act, forcing us to have to follow the almost ancillary character of Stephanie. (Well, Donna continues her poor narration, but she's no longer in the "found footage", which makes her feel wholly unneeded in the movie at all)
There's no real pacing to be had, and to make matters worse, the overall "loose storyline" is constantly interrupted by small vignettes focusing on various townspeople, which takes away crucial time that could have otherwise been spent developing the story and characters. It feels childish and aggravating to sit through.
Asides from the abysmal storytelling, the production has too many flaws to ignore. The acting is uniformly poor, particularly from Kether Donohue, who is our sort of "narrator." She comes off poorly and is far too monotone to really convey the emotions intended. Other actors range from forgettably bad to just plain foul.
The music (which like the storytelling is jarring due to this being a "found footage" movie, a sub-genre which typically doesn't include orchestral scores) is forgettable.
The editing will give you whiplash.
The effects are laughable at times, featuring a mixture of decent gross- out gore prosthetics with amateruish CGI.
And the sound mixing is just... plain... awful. The background sound effects (screaming, gunshots, etc.) are all stock sounds we've heard hundreds of times before, and they cheapen the entire film. I used to take a video- production class in High School, and I am telling the truth that many of the sound effects they used in this film were taken from royalty-free music libraries that my school had. It was painful hearing them in a film by someone as notable as Barry Levinson.
The film somehow felt simultaneously over-written and under-written. The best found-footage films typically focus not on a complex narrative, but rather strictly follow a group of characters reacting to a situation. Cannibal Holocaust, The Blair Witch Project and the original Paranormal Activity were so well-received (we're ignoring personal views, I'm talking general reception) because they were effective in following a simple storyline with focus almost exclusively on characters we care and/or relate to. The Bay feels like Levinson was actively trying to make an epic found-footage film and devoted too much time to developing a complex storyline and plot, as well as a wide network of characters to follow, and it just conflicted with the style so badly. It betrayed the characters by being too epic for it's style (hence the lack of focus mentioned above) and additionally came off as hokey and feeling fundamentally unreal.
And FURTHERMORE, this is my signature! SERIOUSLY! Did you think I was still talking about my point?
PC conformist? How exactly didn't the new media angle help the story? Aside from your own personal dislike for it? How would the film worked better as a typical thriller with a narrative?
The trouble with a lot of found footage films is that there comes a point where you simply don't believe that someone, in a situation of high danger, where people are getting slaughtered all around, would continue to film. Natural survival instincts scream "Stop filming and RUN!!"
The Bay gets around that problem by using newsreel footage, CCTV cameras, the cams Cops have in their cars, Tweets, emails,YouTube and and similar postings. All to very convincing effect to create a very creditable and believable 'documentary' about an eco crises that not only could happen but to a lesser extebnt already has!
This is far and away the most creative and believeable use of the 'Found Footage' genre.
Admittedly a big found-footage fan. This one had good acting and some incredibly tense moments. That's all you need for this type of movie to work. Good flick.
I felt like the movie fluctuated between effective, realistic tension and moments that seemed staged and put-on. It was an uncomfortable balance, which is too bad because the idea behind the movie is very unnerving.